Want help? >State budget & CURRENCY >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs based on current pricing: >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming >R3 2200G - Light 30-60fps gaming (dGPU optional). >R5 2600 - Good 60fps+ gaming CPU; great value >R5 3600 - midrange; good for all but the absolute highest end GPUs >R7 3700X/9900k - Overkill FPS for most GPU/monitor pairings >R9 3900X - Gaming+Streaming/Extreme Productivity.
RAM: >Do not use a single DIMM. 2 sticks ONLY for a typical dual channel CPU >CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 3200CL16 minimum >AMD B & X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP
Graphics cards based on current pricing: 1080p >RX 570/580 8GB - Can be found on sale for cheap. Look for 570s which are >1240MHz boost >GTX 1660 - higher fps / more demanding games >RX 5700 - even higher FPS 1440p >RX 5700 - 75-100fps+ in most games. Wait for 5700 XT non-blower cards for higher end >RTX 2080ti - Highest possible FPS, but poor value 2160p (4K) >RTX 2070 Super OC - budget option. Turing performance scales better into 4K than Navi does. >2080Ti - best for 4K but expensive
>Wait for non-blowers if considering the 5700 XT. 5700 blower is fine and comparable to 2060S noise levels, due to being low power.
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >Yes, adaptive sync (freesync) is important >A 256GB+ SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor >NVMe don't give faster boot/load times than a fast SATA SSD >"Bottleneck checker" sites don't work >Don't use Speccy, use hwinfo instead >See "more" for VRM chart
Considering to upgrade in the near future, currently got a phenom 2 1055t with a 50% underclocked Hd5770. Although I'm happy with its power, the noise level is especially annoying
William Barnes
Do after market cards generally have a higher failure rate? I want to trade in my 2070 founders Edition for an after market card since the FE has obnoxious coil whine but I've been burned by faulty after market cards before.
I'm going for the semi-cheapo b450 and 3700x route so I can't even benefit from those supposed 3600 Mhz gains on my ram. Should I just go for 3200 and not bother or try to get one that can easily OC to 3466?
Also ideally I would like to do 1440p gaming what would be my best bet for a graphics card and should I wait if I can get a good 1080 for real cheap?
Gavin Rodriguez
Honest question, whats the next big thing to wait for? Ive been waiting 9 years to build a new PC, im running short of excuses to buy a new build, what should I wait for or is it the right time to upgrade?
Just gonna repost in this thread, could I have some thoughts on upgrading to this: uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/JWwyvn from pic related for a gaming PC? Is AMD definitely the way forwards now?
You can't go wrong with MSI B450 Tomahawk or Mortar, they are one of the best B450 mobos out there.
Asher Cox
Avoid asus (shit quality) and asrock (shit bios). Rest are fine.
Alexander Gomez
asrock is really good though it's just a shame this time around that they raised their prices a lot on the premium boards, usually they're a lot less expensive than the competition
Easton Smith
Any point in upgrading anything atm if I have 6700k and 1070 gtx? GPU starts to bottleneck a bit but I feel like 2070 RTX and 5700 just aren't good enough/cheap enough to justify jump.
Ian Walker
If you're getting the 16 core Zen 2 also remember to order a yearly supply of liquid nitrogen.
What are the chances it's the CPU that's roofing my ram at 3400 and not the mobo,,, and this same mobo with a 3600x will let me get that ram at 3600mhz
Joshua Jenkins
What's the best RAM that a 450 can support? I think only 570 boards support the new modules.
Austin Howard
mortar got a new bios today so it might be fine, but i'd hold off the tomahawk for now, a lot of people are having issues
Kayden Perry
Don't expect to get any real, trustable information on here. Most people are here to confirm their own purchase biases
Gavin Fisher
from my personal experience gigabyte has been okay
Lincoln Thomas
Gigabyte is the gold standard best vrm and perfect bios just kidding asus msi or asrock
Jaxon Phillips
>6700k I don't think the bottleneck is the gpu.
Kevin Peterson
>t. lives in saudi arabia
Jack White
I bought the gigabyte X570 aorus elite did I fuck up?
Dylan Martin
Like every other forum and subreddits are literally cope-chambers.
Austin Gray
I'm running it with TridentZ 3200CL16 and everything is just fine. You don't need anything else for a 3600. My friend just bought Tomahawk + 3600 and he has no issues with it.
Chase Bell
brainlet here
what is the current bottleneck? GPUs? CPUs? applications?
Chase Bennett
HELP
Thomas Jenkins
>Most people are here to confirm their own purchase biases true
Jack Rogers
might be overkill could have saved money and use it for GPU
Brayden Foster
better than water cooling.
Noah Cooper
what are your other components?
Jason Walker
I'm talking from experience, I've been using MSI products for years and didn't have any issues. Maybe I'm just lucky, who knows.
Elijah Sanchez
how does trident z compare with ripjaws v?
Sebastian Bell
Calm down shill. I play at 3440x1440.
Nolan Hughes
3600 with b450, 3200 16gb, best video card you can afford.
David Gomez
It's always been GPUs for games, AMD and Intel are having a field day selling gaymers double the processing power that they need.
Nolan Wilson
>though mine was delayed until august because of ddr4 shortages >today get a message saying it's coming on monday feels good man
Asher Diaz
3900x haven't decided on gpu yet, maybe waiting for the non-reference navis
Brayden Butler
are b350 obsolete now that ryzen 3000 is out?
Christopher Edwards
Is a 2080 overkill for 1440p/95hz?
Alexander Ramirez
you'll be fine
Ian Allen
4th repost
What matx motherboard do I pick for intel i5 8400?
Any suggestions at least what to avoid? What's wrong with my question?
Andrew Butler
I don't really know, I purchased TridentZ for muh RGB.
Robert Baker
Don't listen to him, a 3700x is indeed overkill for now, but when you upgrade again in the future you will thank your self for not cheaping out on the CPU.
Joseph Edwards
t. non-competitive casual gamer
John Cox
no
Ayden Taylor
no, it's safe to skip this gen with both. I'm running a 3400G and Vega 64 with no issues. 3400G is about the same as a 6700K.
Nicholas Morris
Hey guys, looking for a bit of help.
Just upgraded my mobo (b450 tomahawk), CPU (Ryzen 5 3600) and ram.
Connected everything up, but pressing the on button does nothing, PSU doesn't spin up or anything. I'd like to say the mobo is DOA, but I had the shop upgrade the bios before sending it out to me.
Is it possible I've shorted it without noticing and it's my fault? It would be a pretty big coincidence that my PSU that was working fine yesterday suddenly died today with all of this.
Austin Bailey
If the frequency and timings are the same, there is no difference. They get the memory from the same manufacturer and just slap their plastic and branding on it.
Nathan Bailey
aight also if you happen to have experience with corsair what do you recommend about gskill vs corsair
Zachary Richardson
Help me lads. Do I take the 1440p 60hz pill or the 1080p 144 hz pill? Just got a 3600 and plan on getting something in the 1660 ti range.
games I'm interested in off the top of my head are WoW, gaylo master chief collection, civ 6 and cyberpunk. I'm thinking if I'm building in the $1000 I should just stick with 1080p no?
Jack Clark
double check connections and standoffs
Jaxson Gonzalez
My advice is to check if your pc posts before you put everything in your case.
Daniel Ortiz
>Do I take the 1440p 60hz pill or the 1080p 144 hz pill? seconded
Landon Bennett
definitely 1440p 60hz. 144 by itself is a meme.
Jace Mitchell
...
Oliver Ward
the latter, as adaptive sync does a good job of smoothing out any drops you get from 144 fps
Jose Martin
It's a valid budget option for 3700 and under.
Juan Cooper
If you take the 1440p pill be ready to upgrade your GPU soon if you plan to play anything newer.
Adam Rivera
Lmao 3200c16 is fucking trash
Colton Lopez
>What's wrong with my question Why do you have an 8400? Why don't you already have a mobo for it? Why does it even matter which you would pick?
Xavier Williams
I think you can't go wrong with either, just buy whatever you like more.
Benjamin Roberts
I am kinda pissed that b450 memeboards increased in price since new zen release, so i am probably going to buy overpriced x570 out of spite.
Carter Robinson
>coping over the fact you overpaid for your ram
Joseph Foster
Seriously, CSGO updates that make the game twice as heavy was one of the best moves of the industry lately. A game that is played by competitors and shit, requiring hundreds of fps, used to be lightweight and now requires you a super expensive PC to run it at these fps
Andrew Peterson
thanks
Jack Green
It outperforms 3600.
Asher James
Even with a 1660ti? Depending on the monitor I got my plan was to either get an RX580 and upgrade in like a year or a 1660 ti and upgrade in like a year and a half to two. I'm trying to keep within a budget so the 580 has appeal but it feels stupid to spend more on the CPU than the GPU
Nathaniel Foster
Check the on off switch on the PSU lmao retard
Jordan Perry
What?
Hudson Moore
No retard I bought 3000c15 for cheaper than your 3200c16 and I'm running it at 3400c16
Aiden Russell
Yeah, but it's more so on anonymous sites like Jow Forums. You can make a bullshit comment and never be held to account for it. On forums with accounts and a name attached to you, people will learn over time who to trust and who not to trust
You see it on every board here. /o/, Jow Forums, Jow Forums, etc. It's fun to shitpost, but anyone making decisions based on advice they get here are just dumb
>super expensive PC I'm playing CSGO on 1280x960 at over 350fps with a $200 CPU and $100 GPU lmao.
Joshua Morgan
Two years ago that same setup would get a bunch more fps.
Juan Moore
Retard here bought pretty much all of my pc component and am waiting for deliver it just occurred to me that i didn't buy any connectors for ssd and hdd and PSU etc are they included in the case connectors?