Refresh Rates

Wyatt Nelson
Wyatt Nelson

Is anything over 60hz just a meme and a way for companies to milk consumers for extra cash?

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John Young
John Young

No, anything over 24Hz is

Michael Peterson
Michael Peterson

144hz is nice, just for the smooth feeling you get from moving your mouse cursor.

Oliver Lopez
Oliver Lopez

So it's useless.

Chase Wilson
Chase Wilson

useless?
What are the drawbacks?

Eli Phillips
Eli Phillips

I have a 240hz monitor for gaymen and 2 60hz monitors. Can confirm that 240hz is a lot smoother than 60hz.

Jose Miller
Jose Miller

For normal games yes. For rhythm games no.

Ethan Butler
Ethan Butler

So if you're an adult who doesn't engage in children's activities, a higher refresh rate is useless.
correct?

Levi Harris
Levi Harris

240Hz is better than anything else, but you need an Intcel CPU to even get close to that framerate

Lucas Moore
Lucas Moore

240hz
1080p
lol

Gabriel Hughes
Gabriel Hughes

unless you are le epic competitive CS:GO gamer, it's useless and placebo. most normies don't even switch to 144hz when they buy a monitor that supports it, they just think it's running at that when in reality they are still on 60hz. and unless it has GSync it just causes more problems than it does improvements since a lot of games don't even support anything above 60hz/60fps so you'll get tearing and all sorts of shit. GSync has it's own set of problems with mouse input lag etc. I think unless you are serious about competitive gaming you should avoid them and invest the money elsewhere.

Easton Cox
Easton Cox

Even high end TVs do 120hz
High refresh has its uses and it is much smoother
It’s not something you would necessarily want to pay a huge premium for unless you have the GPU to run games or really care about judder free video playback

Jayden Kelly
Jayden Kelly

watching television/movies in 120hz
sounds fucking awful, just like motion smoothing.

Levi Martinez
Levi Martinez

Source: my ass

Jack Campbell
Jack Campbell

it's definitely very useful for rhythm games

Luke Flores
Luke Flores

npc

Parker Myers
Parker Myers

lol i'm a top 1000 osu player and i have a 60hz monitor. i have a buddy that's top 100 that plays on a fucking laptop screen. i guess it looks cool but there is ZERO advantage to it.

Asher Martinez
Asher Martinez

and this is why you'll never be top 10
fact

Ryan Allen
Ryan Allen

Is anything over 60hz just a meme and a way for companies to milk consumers for extra cash?
Try the refresh rate setting in GTA 5 and tell me. The difference is literally night and day between 60 and 75 Hz. So much so that it feels as though you're running the game at 60 fps even if you aren't. Other than that, I don't think there's any drastic and worthwhile differences.

Hunter Fisher
Hunter Fisher

My uncle works at nintendo too

Ethan Edwards
Ethan Edwards

lol i'm also an osu!fag but yea there's advantage to it faggot, rafis said he can't play ar11 without 144hz and all the top players said 240hz is better than 144z, i mean i can even notice the difference between 60 and 75

Chase Jones
Chase Jones

Movies or TV shows being played on a 60hz monitor requires something called 3:2 pull down to convert the 24 FPS content to 30 FPS content, that 30 FPS content can then be played on a 60hz panel just using frame multiplication
With a 120hz screen both 24fps content and 30fps are perfectly divisible so no pull down is required

Robert Martinez
Robert Martinez

virgin

Logan Sanders
Logan Sanders

nomod Fag

Jackson Clark
Jackson Clark

Found the zoomer that never touched a CRT in his life

Matthew Miller
Matthew Miller

144hz is a noticeable jump up from 60 but anything above that is kinda pointless

Kevin Hall
Kevin Hall

It's the other way around. 60Hz just became the standard because it's cheaper to make. Remember that your average refresh rate before LCDs ranged from 75Hz to 120Hz.

Nicholas Bennett
Nicholas Bennett

all these gaymerz
fucking embarrassing

Daniel Cruz
Daniel Cruz

So if you're an adult who doesn't engage in children's activities
if you were such a thing, I'd imagine that you would have much better things to do than to bicker about shit you don't care about/know nothing about on a Saturday afternoon on an imageboard on the internet.

Justin Reyes
Justin Reyes

[X] Told

Carson Gutierrez
Carson Gutierrez

144 is the sweet spot. For the noobies the jump is insane. For the 240 geeks they won't notice and they'll save money

Jordan Hernandez
Jordan Hernandez

And if you weren't, you be upset by what I said.
Go figure, you are.

Gavin Kelly
Gavin Kelly

implying I'm upset
nigga, that was my first post in the thread. I was just pointing out that you're wasting your time here, just as I am. if you really want to get an answer to your question, look at the refresh rates yourself and make your own conclusion based on what your personal usage is...
or are you too much of a brainlet to make decisions?

Tyler Flores
Tyler Flores

Again this shit about refresh rates, the faster your monitor can write the screen the better.
Learn about how your gpu send images to your monitor, the problems about sync and how sampling has to do with all of this.

Each time someonce ask this, I remember other stupid questions about sound sampling.

Gavin Adams
Gavin Adams

nigga
Your opinion is irrelevant.

Brayden Powell
Brayden Powell

at least I can form an opinion, npc

Gabriel Butler
Gabriel Butler

wigger
I'm surprised you can even form a sentence.

Zachary King
Zachary King

if you have slow brainlet reaction, then yes 60hz is enough

Camden Murphy
Camden Murphy

We're not talking about gaymez, bud.

Aaron White
Aaron White

I'm considering getting a 1440p 60hz monitor because I game way less than I thought I would, and I don't feel competitive. I mainly write or play shit like WoW or DOOM or Metroidvanias. I have a 144hz monitor and honestly, any FPS above 100 gets REALLY hard for me to tell a difference. At 120 FPS I see no difference at all. 60fps 4k/2k is still good for a long time, OP. You don't need 144hz for programming, writing, music production or non-competitive gaming. Put the extra money in hardware or save it.

Jackson Diaz
Jackson Diaz

Just moving your cursor at 60hz will feel wrong and bother you if you're used to 144hz.
It's not a meme. Actually, it's one of the few things that, by themselves, make a tremendous improvement to a desktop experience. Like going from mechanical drives to SSDs.
I'm not easily impressed or mentally ill on consumerism, but that's one thing I definitely welcome in my life and >120hz should definitely be the standard if we had the technology. LCD is just that mediocre.

John Jenkins
John Jenkins

LCD is just that mediocre.
Unfortunately we're stuck with it for the next 10 years.

Michael Morris
Michael Morris

I competed in games just fine when 30 fps was the gold standard. 1 frame in a 60 fps game is already so short you can't possibly react within it, making the frames even shorter won't help.
And high frame rates just look awful for live video.

Eli Harris
Eli Harris

Unless you type at 60 characters a second, no. If you play bing bing wahoo then 144hz is just a luxury. Nobody needs a 144hz panel

Ethan Walker
Ethan Walker

having to buy more expensive hardware to keep it, considering you are in gaymen or do productive graphics shit with your setup

Asher Myers
Asher Myers

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John Taylor
John Taylor

play osu mania retard

Ryan Moore
Ryan Moore

If I was a roastie the mere thought of someone shitposting on Jow Forums all day about other people's hobbies being for children would drench my panties

Daniel Reyes
Daniel Reyes

axarious played on 60hz

also you're all plebs for not buying a high refresh rate monitor to increase geometry dash tickrate, fucking broken game

Thomas Campbell
Thomas Campbell

what happens after 10 years?

Hudson Diaz
Hudson Diaz

For average gaymers yes but 144hz is pretty crucial if you're playing any kind of competitive FPS game or MOBAs. Think it's also useful for racing games but I'm just guessing there.

Noah White
Noah White

MOBAs? I would've said those were the competetive games where you need the least refresh rate, how come?

Carter Rodriguez
Carter Rodriguez

Went from 60 to 75 with a bit of OC, it's nice and it does feel a bit smoother but I wouldn't spend extra money for it.

Julian Bennett
Julian Bennett

I think having a higher resolution is more useful in MOBAs than a high refresh rate but the smoother movements of the mouse makes panning easier/more responsive which is important to some people. Definitely not as critical as FPS, I should have worded my sentence better.

Wyatt Brooks
Wyatt Brooks

You're a faggot, so not too far off.

Jose Brooks
Jose Brooks

Have 144Hz monitor. Once you feel the /smooth/ you will never go back. Mouse and vidya especially

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Connor Baker
Connor Baker

The difference between 60hz and 144hz is amazing and definitely noticable. I'd recommend 144hz if you can afford it and your pc can handle it. it's truly amazing.

Christian Bell
Christian Bell

based and strobepilled

Luke Jenkins
Luke Jenkins

Again, so if you don't play gaymez, it's not worth it.
Thanks for clarifying.

Imagine paying an extra couple hundred so you can swirl your mouse around like an autistic child.

Robert Wood
Robert Wood

What is high speed footage
It's like you don't own a camera lmao

Julian Hall
Julian Hall

If you're not gaming on it then there's zero reason to get a 1080p 144hz monitor when you could grab a 1440p 60hz monitor for around the same price

Justin Hill
Justin Hill

Something I have no idea even existed because I'm not a faggy photographer.

Michael Diaz
Michael Diaz

Just go outside and into a shop and look at a 120Hz panel.
If you can't see the difference, you're either blind, very, very slow or they configured it wrong.

Carson James
Carson James

this question is pointless without you specifying what os the usage of such monitor

David Wright
David Wright

t. eyelet

Owen Walker
Owen Walker

As you can tell from the seething replies of invalid gaymerz, if you don't waste time and actually have work to do, avoid wasting money on muh big hurtz!
Cheers, fellas.

Tyler Scott
Tyler Scott

No, the improvement is clearly visible. Whether you personally feel like that improvement is worth pursuing or not is another matter and it depends entirely on you. I'm personally pretty happy with 60Hz at 3840x2160. I don't really play too many MP competitive games and I otherwise prefer to have the image quality instead.

Brody Flores
Brody Flores

Even just moving the mouse is smoother. Also if you like videos, 120 Hz and 240 Hz are both exact multiples of 24, 30 and 60.

Kevin Gutierrez
Kevin Gutierrez

race war

seriously tho hopefully affordable microled happens

Tyler Evans
Tyler Evans

you just have to blink 60 times by second to get this smooth animation feel.

Jonathan Edwards
Jonathan Edwards

I stop noticing large differences around 100-120. After that its hard to notice. 240hz is useless to me and I think its a meme.

Nicholas Cooper
Nicholas Cooper

no, everything is just objectively smoother in general.

Cameron Martinez
Cameron Martinez

Is anything over 60hz just a meme and a way for companies to milk consumers for extra cash?
no 120hz and up is legitimate, Id rather have 1080p/120fps than 4k/60. once you try it you can't go back

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Owen Thompson
Owen Thompson

damn, spending twice the money on a monitor and gpu looks like THAT!?

Eli Wilson
Eli Wilson

No. Mechanical keyboards are though.

Evan Lewis
Evan Lewis

240hz is the new minimum standard

Ayden Bailey
Ayden Bailey

And 1080p looks like smeared baby shit compared to 1440p on a decent sized screen, never mind 4k. It's all preference.

Angel Gonzalez
Angel Gonzalez

144hz is nice, but costly if you want to keep playing at that framerate.

Nicholas Myers
Nicholas Myers

And 1080p looks like smeared baby shit compared to 1440p on a decent sized screen

why would you even get a widescreen 1080p monitor? the sweet spot is 1440p/144hz. 1080p on a 27inch still looks fine. the target should be affordable 4k 120hz monitors.
It's all preference.
literally everyone i've known who actually uses computers/plays games aside from a friend who does media work prefers a high refresh rate over 4k/60

Ryan Walker
Ryan Walker

It was worth it for me. It feels like the difference between 30fps and 60, smoother. It's definitely noticeable and I say it's worth it if you play games, especially competitive ones. It was worth it to play counter-strike imo but if you're just doing development or web browsing you may want to skip it.

Joseph Carter
Joseph Carter

(to clarify I'm talking about 144hz. If you do get a monitor that's compatible, assuming you're using windows, make sure you set it to 144hz in advanced graphics properties or windows will use 60hz, people sometimes forget this and think it's placebo. It's immediately somewhat noticeable on the desktop and more so in a game)

Noah Ortiz
Noah Ortiz

Can even the 2080ti deliver consistant > 144hz on the 0.1%? It seems useless if there are dips and stutters, might as well lock it to 60hz....

Daniel Cruz
Daniel Cruz

twice the money
Yeah no

Ian Rivera
Ian Rivera

osu worth whilr rhythm game.
play iidx or ITG and then talk about rhythm games

Liam Robinson
Liam Robinson

play a real vsrg retard

Ryan Ward
Ryan Ward

Isn't that done automatically?

Xavier Gutierrez
Xavier Gutierrez

It doesn't matter unless you're into competitive gaming.

Xavier Cox
Xavier Cox

with cpu processing power increasing /while usage decreasing and cheap storage getting cheaper every year, we should start moving into 600 hz/ fps era for video footage. 600hz can properly show 24/25/30/50/60/100/120 fps footage, 600hz is the future

Andrew Howard
Andrew Howard

Wow like $100-200 extra I will pay once in my lifetime. Are you poor?

Jaxon Wood
Jaxon Wood

I fucking knew this would come.
paying money
vs
not paying as much
still a downside wouldn't you agree, Mr Millionaire?

Luis Parker
Luis Parker

Is anything over 60hz just a meme and a way for companies to milk consumers for extra cash?
This is something you would only ask if you've never tried it yourself. The difference is day and night.

Austin Lewis
Austin Lewis

No.
You have to specifically move through Windows menus into advanced graphic options or know how to use the Nvidiot driver settings.
You can't do it from the AyyMD driver software

Parker Long
Parker Long

Is there a 4k monitor that can do [email protected]?

Nicholas Cox
Nicholas Cox

no, DLSS, DXR, etc are

Lincoln Wood
Lincoln Wood

I had to reinstall my gpu driver recently so my 144hz monitor was running at 60hz until it installed and it was an absolutely horrible and traumatizing experience holy shit.

If you never used 144hz stay away from it because you can never go back.

Joseph Reed
Joseph Reed

My monitor is 144Hz, my OnePlus7Pro is 90Hz and my ThinkPad T450s is oc 60Hz.
I can't watch anything under ~100Hz because it feels like shit. That's the downside

Jeremiah Rogers
Jeremiah Rogers

Yes, there are 4K monitors which can even do [email protected] The most affordable one that I know of is the Acer XV273K, but even that one is around $1000. If you mean one specifically which can do [email protected] but only [email protected] I don't know of one like that. I believe some of those exist too, but you might only find them in TV-like sizes, I don't think I've ever seen one at 27" or something like that.

Luis Garcia
Luis Garcia

pcgamer.com/how-many-frames-per-second-can-the-human-eye-really-see/

Benjamin Rivera
Benjamin Rivera

The thing you'll have to realise is that there are fps ranges and jump from one range to another is more noticeable in some cases than others. The jump from 30-40 to 60 is very noticeable. The jump from 50 to 60 or 60 to 75-80, while not as noticeable is still pretty decent. Then theres the 100-120 range. And then the +144 range. Anyone who memes about "muh 5/10 more fps" within one single range, is a mouthbreathing retard.(unless it's less than 60, but then again, that's shit tier in the first place.) For (((competitive))) games, +120 is the minimum for some.

Charles Garcia
Charles Garcia

What a retard.

Christopher Bailey
Christopher Bailey

What was the standard refresh rate for just a normal crt monitor?

Colton Watson
Colton Watson

nigger
you mean quake
osu is complete bullshit play stepmania you tapniggerfaggot
i play quakeworld on a 240hz crt and i notice.

Aaron Cox
Aaron Cox

wow but my mouse cursor is just SO smooth!
lol who the fuck pays more for a smoother mouse.
if you're not a gamer, explain how it's not a meme?
there is no justification for it unless you consider yourself an "e-athlete" lol

Jace Roberts
Jace Roberts

lmao you probably buy bottled water

Joshua Taylor
Joshua Taylor

Depends on the context. The difference is perceptible but most people don't care unless it's VR or they're doing something highly specific probably involving visual analysis.

Gabriel Torres
Gabriel Torres

120 fps in games have been a thing in gaming since fast paced FPS games in the mid 90s.

Carson Sullivan
Carson Sullivan

Anything over 120hz is a meme
144hz is just smoother and 240hz is a little teen weeny tiny bit smoother so a waste of your cash

Jeremiah Richardson
Jeremiah Richardson

This is the REAL problem with any display above 60Hz: response time. Basically in order for the human eye to perceive crystal clear individual frames and motion, the response time needs to be at least 25% of the frame time or less. ie:

60Hz = 16.66ms frame time so 4ms response time MAX
75Hz = 13.33ms frame time so 3ms response time MAX
120Hz = 08.33ms frame time so 2ms response time MAX

When the response time is more than 25% of the frame time motion artifacts like ghosting will occur and if the response is HIGHER than the frame time, complete frames will get dropped to prevent the audio and video from going out of sync. But it gets WORSE because it turns out screen manufacturers will list the average BtW response times and could have double the GtG response time which makes them bad even for 60Hz. This is why shitty color TN panels are shilled so much for gaymen.

Solution: CRT or amoled/oled displays

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Nolan Flores
Nolan Flores

can't argue
attacks me with an impotent insult
we are done here

Camden Kelly
Camden Kelly

If you play a lot games and you aren't a poorfag then 144hz is for you, else just stick to trannypads.

Angel Reed
Angel Reed

thinking of buying a new laptop for college. should i go with a 4k oled 60 hz panel or a 1080 144hz panel? i don't game so will mostly use it for studying, browsing, watching movies etc. Would i benefit from a faster refresh rate over better image quality of an oled?

Jayden Phillips
Jayden Phillips

This, even a fucking benq zowie TN """""""""240Hz"""""""""" gaymen monitor has dogshit response times. 1ms gtg MY ASS

rtings.com/monitor/reviews/benq/zowie-xl2540#comparison_1427

This piece of shit doesn't even qualify for 60Hz desu.

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Adrian Lewis
Adrian Lewis

I think windows display scaling is pretty bad still, but I have a low res laptop and so have never experienced it.

Christian Morris
Christian Morris

The human eye can't perceive anything over 24fps

Gabriel King
Gabriel King

see

oled all the way, faster refresh rate on IPS just means more motion artifacts and dropped frames, see

Juan Diaz
Juan Diaz

whoa we got a hardcore gaymer over here, fellas!

Jayden Clark
Jayden Clark

there is zero excuse to owning anything that comes in 1080p.
It's obsolete.

60Hz at 4k is the obvious choice. Unless you're an underage gamer that is.

Wyatt Thompson
Wyatt Thompson

every example includes gayming shit
yea we get it bro.
muh gaymez are super important.

when did this fucking board turn into /v/ 2?

Carson Reed
Carson Reed

Actually we can perceive an infinite number of FPS but our brain can't process the visual information fast enough, we're capped at 75-100 fps and over time this goes down as we age. Seems to be an evolutionary adaptation which is why it's virtually impossible to kill a fly without a swatter. Really interesting stuff.

"New research indicates that smaller animals, such as birds, dogs, and human children, perceive the world at a higher frame rate than the rest of us. As a result, these smaller animals may live life in a permanent state of Matrix-like bullet time, where everything around them appears to be moving in slow motion. This is explained evolutionarily by the need for smaller animals and insects to avoid larger, but slower, predators."

extremetech.com/extreme/166694-small-animals-see-the-world-in-slow-motion-or-why-your-puppy-is-so-hyperactive

Carter Flores
Carter Flores

144Hz = 06.94ms frame time so you need 1ms response time and that's what you get with decent 144hz monitors
seething poorfag

Gavin Sullivan
Gavin Sullivan

It's not just that you MONG. IPS displays have well over 10ms of response times making them unsuitable even for watching a fucking movie. This is ESPECIALLY problematic on tablet and even laptop IPS displays which have insanely high response times due to the lower power restriction.

People have actually reported getting seasick watching movies on HIGH END ipad "pros" and it turns out they're not crazy. 49.6ms of fucking response time.

see sad but true unfortunately

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Ian Wood
Ian Wood

seething poorfag
gonna cry?

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Josiah Fisher
Josiah Fisher

asus rog
get cucked lmao

Zachary Jenkins
Zachary Jenkins

10MS??? Holy shit, UNUSABLE! How can you watch KINO on that SLOW as fuck time???
Lol get fucked, dickhead.

Brayden Hughes
Brayden Hughes

still waiting for your specs, sweetie.
=)

Jacob Wilson
Jacob Wilson

see 144hz TN panels or maybe don't, I love your cope

Christian Morris
Christian Morris

But is a little bit of ghosting such a big deal?

Normal recorded video also shows motion blur when things move fast.
And it helps with making motion appear smoother.
In the film industry they usually even ensure some motion blur is present by picking a higher shutter angle.

Jeremiah Bennett
Jeremiah Bennett

Don't even try, poorfags are on suicide watch.

Adam Bailey
Adam Bailey

t. grandpa who can only see at 10 fps now

Cameron Rivera
Cameron Rivera

damn sick as HELL burn, gaymer!

Lincoln Morgan
Lincoln Morgan

enjoy ghosting on your asus rog screen lmao

Samuel Flores
Samuel Flores

still won't post his setup
;)

Dominic Roberts
Dominic Roberts

That was a 240Hz TN benq zowie display YOU DUMB FUCK

It really is, see

Basically we can see up to around 100 FPS clearly, by an evolutionary limit. So if you're shown say 60 FPS along with ghosting and completely dropped frames in the middle of all that you're basically watching a smear of pixels across the screen.

Anyway If you're actually serious about playing vidya the only reasonable and attainable solution is to unironically get a 90Hz CRT monitor. Pic related.

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Wyatt Green
Wyatt Green

you might seethe even more so i wont

Kayden Fisher
Kayden Fisher

I was talking about 144hz monitors and you keep posting shit about 240hz ones, stupid nigger.

Gavin Ward
Gavin Ward

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Jose Wright
Jose Wright

you don't get 144 to play the latest and greatest AAA titles, you get it to play games that can run on a toaster (csgo, tf2, league, dota)

Adrian Reed
Adrian Reed

Because those the highest end ones possible and have the lowest response times which are still shit.

Anthony Lewis
Anthony Lewis

Ofc 144hz is better than 60, it looks smoother. But is it worth 100% of the 60 Hz Monitor price? Definitely not but you are a XxGaymerxX

Bentley Bennett
Bentley Bennett

lol cope, poorcuck

Dylan Roberts
Dylan Roberts

Wrong.

Motion blur helps your brain figure out what's going on.
It gives direction to movements.
It is completely natural but then you never go out and experience the real world.

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Luis Hernandez
Luis Hernandez

Talking shit about gamers when he is shitposting on /g lmao.

Kevin Rogers
Kevin Rogers

daaaaaamn, got em!!!! haha!

Isaac Moore
Isaac Moore

we see less fps as we age
HOLY FUCK it's real

qz.com/1516804/physics-explains-why-time-passes-faster-as-you-age/

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Jackson Russell
Jackson Russell

fell for rog meme
why are you still posting lmao

Logan Ward
Logan Ward

STILL didn't post his
why are you poor?

Christian Long
Christian Long

people with the best reaction times take 100ms to react or 1/10th of a second
Assuming pro gamers have reaction times this good, that still isnt good enough to benefit from a high refresh rate. All it does is make movement look smoother.

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Ian Allen
Ian Allen

t. never experienced 144Hz

Grayson Morris
Grayson Morris

I've been on 60Hz for roughly 27 years. Got a 240Hz display just to see what all this hype was about and I must say the difference is quite large. 60Hz actually looks shitty now that I've had high refresh for a few months. The fluidity is simply amazing.

Zachary Sanders
Zachary Sanders

iidx doesn't even work properly on anything different than 60hz

Nathaniel Thomas
Nathaniel Thomas

Going back to 60hz after seeing 144hz is really difficult

Felt like I wasn't even noticing my 144hz monitor, but then I put it in 60hz mode, and holy shit, the difference was night and day, 60hz made me feel nauseous, and I only went to 144hz like 3 months ago after playing at 30/60 for 20 years

Michael Nguyen
Michael Nguyen

imagine using your display resolution as a measurement of your worth

Justin Rogers
Justin Rogers

144 looks amazingly smooth. You're stupid.

Cooper Howard
Cooper Howard

That's not how it works you mong. Reaction time is added to the total.

Brody Long
Brody Long

fyre plays on a 60hz vga monitor literally rank 250 player

Xavier Howard
Xavier Howard

imagine being a faggot gaymer

Jaxon Cruz
Jaxon Cruz

Saw a store trying to sell people on 144hz by putting them side-by-side with a 60hz monitor.

Really sold me on 60hz as there was no perceptible difference to me.

Josiah Jones
Josiah Jones

eyeslet

Cooper Walker
Cooper Walker

I'm glad all I need to target with my hardware choices is 60 fps.

Julian Lopez
Julian Lopez

No, makes supported video content look smoother.

It's not as useful as higher resolution, where one can maintain good pixel density at progressively higher screen sizes, but still useful.

Landon Adams
Landon Adams

not an argument

Jaxson Ramirez
Jaxson Ramirez

I'll call him a faggot on Jow Forums
that'll really burn him good

Sebastian Nguyen
Sebastian Nguyen

t. XxGaymerxX

Jacob Hill
Jacob Hill

it worked

Sebastian Sullivan
Sebastian Sullivan

i remember when higher than 60fps was 'impossible for the human eye to see'

but at the same time the performance overhead is ridiculous. 60 fps is like 15ms frame render times. 144 is less than 7ms per frame. that's fuckin nuts. unless you're playing counter strike its just an unreasonably expensive performance goal

Hudson Myers
Hudson Myers

were they even using a 60hz video signal let alone a 144hz signal? pretty much every in-store demo i have ever seen is using some kind of signal splitter and either has chroma subsampling, temporal subsampling, or resolution downscaling

i know the advantage of high framerate video but i think that fucking hobbit movie pretty much killed any chances of it gaining consumer market share

Angel Myers
Angel Myers

but i think that fucking hobbit movie pretty much killed any chances of it gaining consumer market share
explain?

Jayden Jackson
Jayden Jackson

Consider VR google need high Hz to deal with fast moving object
I think the problem is not we can see each frame or not. It's the clarity of object
30fps is enough for pre-rendered movie

Zachary Garcia
Zachary Garcia

Going from 60 to 120 or 144hz is the most significant improvement. The general consensus seems to be that anything after that gives only very minor marginal gains

Brayden Stewart
Brayden Stewart

should be goggle... what google has done to me arghhh

Asher Mitchell
Asher Mitchell

Going from 60 to 120 or 144hz is the most significant improvement.
only for gaymen though so it's completely irrelevant to me

Hunter Cruz
Hunter Cruz

No you'll want a 120-144hz monitor even outside gaming. Doing simple things like scrolling through webpages or using your entire OS feels so much smoother, there's significantly less blur on text..just try it out, you'll love it.

240hz is tech currently ahead of it's time. No graphics card is really ready to drive that refresh rate outside of a select few games such as CS which has garbage graphics anyway.

Luis Richardson
Luis Richardson

paying premium for smooth scrolling and a to drag the cursor back and forth real fast!
lol
it's purely a gimmick aimed torwards gaymers
i have a 144 hz monitor and turn it off when i'm not gaming and besides the cursor, you can't notice

Julian Kelly
Julian Kelly

It's not a gimmick, it's quality of life. Your eyes will thank you.

Aaron Cox
Aaron Cox

if your greatest selling point outside of gayming is scrolling, i'd say it's a gimmick.

Julian Kelly
Julian Kelly

240hz is better than 60hz.All these faggots eyes are broken, Case closed.

Jason Jones
Jason Jones

1080p is shit, gaymer cuck
b-but muh HURTZ

lol

Lucas Cooper
Lucas Cooper

240hz can natively play 240fps videos

Ryder Sullivan
Ryder Sullivan

Felt like I wasn't even noticing my 144hz monitor

Then theres no point in upgrading if you've never seen higher than 60. Give me dat 1440p and 4k.

Cooper Butler
Cooper Butler

This is why I only watch movies on my tab s 10.5. Oled for the win

Parker Reyes
Parker Reyes

For desktop experience? No it's amazing.
For gaymes? It's good but less noticeable than you think but at a high level will make you perform better.

Eli Mitchell
Eli Mitchell

Freesync/G-sync

Austin Wood
Austin Wood

especially since you need gpu power and you have a laptoo which makes it unlikely you gave that gpu power
100% for the 1080p 144 hz

Cooper Perry
Cooper Perry

1080p is shit
lol

Jack Campbell
Jack Campbell

Wow, this thread is full of people with high refresh monitors who are aggressively defending their products

Kevin Carter
Kevin Carter

imagine using a 1080p monitor in 2019.
absolute cuck.

Nicholas Cook
Nicholas Cook

nothing wrong with 1080p. Imagine thinking higher resolution but lower PPI is better. Imagine thinking a monitor over 24" is for anyone other than blind people and retards.

Ryan Cook
Ryan Cook

too much poor cope in one post for me, my man
sorry about your situation.

Jack Wright
Jack Wright

I use a single TN 1080p panel with 60Hz and could not be happier

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Joshua Clark
Joshua Clark

I have 20/20 eyesight. Get back to me when they make a desktop monitor that isn't beat out by a laptop or phone.
Let me guess you have a minimum 32" or larger screen and when you calculate the PPI it's going to be lower than my monitor which means it's actually blurrier but also gives you less performance. Imagine being that retarded I have to draw you out this pictograph explaining how and why you are retarded.

Angel Morris
Angel Morris

TN
it's fine until you see it side by side with an IPS.
looks like dog shit.

Noah Barnes
Noah Barnes

yea, i'm poor
but i have 20/20!
nice, man.

Isaiah Green
Isaiah Green

nothing personal kid but you winning this was never an option. it's not very hard to beat someone who doesn't know anything about display technology.

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Christian King
Christian King

more like full of people that did research and dont want to cripple their eyes and/or their brain with scuffed 60Hz

lower MPRT
lower input lag
lower response time

your productivity increases 5x in whatever you do on a high Hz monitor, everything is faster, more responsive, snappier, and games just take that to another level

also, anyone who didn't read all articles on blurbusters about monitors/properties of them has their opinion instantly discredited

Isaiah Hernandez
Isaiah Hernandez

What are the drawbacks?
usually the foreskin

Bentley Miller
Bentley Miller

his brain runs at 60Hz or slower so for him there is no benefit. I think the best course of action is to just feel sorry for a perma console peasant who will never be able to compete with competent PC owners. Someone has to pad the low ranks of literal bots.

David Martin
David Martin

GAYMERZ, RIZE UP!

Bentley Gonzalez
Bentley Gonzalez

t. hertzlet

Connor Brown
Connor Brown

Give me dat 1440p

But my monitor is 144hz, 1440p AND IPS

Literally no reason not to if you can afford it, and it's pretty cheap now too (400 euro)

Seeing 144hz and then trying to go back to 60fps makes me wonder how I ever thought 60fps was fine to begin with... but strangely, 60fps video still looks smooth, just not games, and that's with G-Sync

Lincoln Bailey
Lincoln Bailey

Eeeh, faster response time, okay, more productivity, I would not say so

Logan Fisher
Logan Fisher

In a video the frame time is a constant. In games rendered in real time it is spiking up and down every frame. Even matching display refresh to the frame refresh isn't going to make it as smooth as constant but it is better than nothing.

Jaxson Jones
Jaxson Jones

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Gavin Russell
Gavin Russell

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Jaxson Nguyen
Jaxson Nguyen

i dont understand what you are projecting, there is a huge difference between "gaming" which is just a normie npc activity now and competitive esports

really? try using ungoogled -O3 --march=native compiled chromium with GPU flags on 1440p 165hz monitor

Jordan Anderson
Jordan Anderson

muh projection
lol

Nolan Butler
Nolan Butler

really? try using ungoogled -O3 --march=native compiled chromium with GPU flags on 1440p 165hz monitor

I don't know what that is

Charles Hernandez
Charles Hernandez

Just stick to the xbox and nintendo switch big guy. leave the compiling and configuring advanced shit to the experts.

Dominic Williams
Dominic Williams

you are a huge faggot

Ryder Barnes
Ryder Barnes

ah the jealous betacuck peasant in their natural environment.
HI GUIZE I DUNNO WHAT ALL THIS CLI STUFF IS I JUST WANT TO PLAY GAMEZ WITH MY RGB KEYBOARD, RAM, MOHERBOARD, AND CHAIR

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Austin Reed
Austin Reed

Motion blur and depth of field are things your eyes and in for free.

It looks great in movies but in a videogame you might not be looking exactly where your camera is which just makes the scene look weird when DoF and motion blur are added where they shouldn't be

Alexander Ortiz
Alexander Ortiz

dude i'm so smart because i compiled my browzer from scratch! lmao
i'm not who you originally replied too, i'm just pointing out you're tryhard gaymer faggot

Xavier Moore
Xavier Moore

I sense passive aggressiveness, why not just explain what that is?

Luis Harris
Luis Harris

they didn't ask. how is it passive aggression to tell people who insult high refresh rate to stick with televisions? a 4k TV is better than a 1080p monitor right??? also i'm not the autismo that compiled the browser i'm just a fellow connoisseur of information specifically in the technology department which includes general programming knowledge.

Jaxson Foster
Jaxson Foster

don't insult my refresh rate!
lmao

Jackson Campbell
Jackson Campbell

you're tryhard gaymer
I'm putting in 0 effort rn. imagine insulting someone for putting in effort though. Maybe you should try harder to be smarter instead of seething with jealousy.

John Parker
John Parker

Yes it's a meme no LCD has 100% transitions fast enough for 120hz+. All they can display is a blurry mess. It only really makes sense with OLED but BFI with 60 fps will still result in clearer motion.

MPRT is far more important than framerate when it comes to actually seeing objects while paning the screen.

Jordan Gray
Jordan Gray

I bet you have a hard time talking to people in real life, I'll just google stuff from what you posted earlier then.

Joseph Moore
Joseph Moore

I bet you have a hard time talking to people in real life
No not typically. I have a difficult time staying interested when about with peasants though.
No, I don't eat mud pie I don't eat any dirt at all actually
LMAO look at this retard he says he doesn't eat dirt
There is a reason lions are not concerned with the opinions of sheep. The worlds natural pecking order is intelligence the sooner you understand that the sooner you will understand why nobody respects niggers.

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Leo Price
Leo Price

Is anything over 60hz just a meme and a way for companies to milk consumers for extra cash?
Yes. And I say this as someone who owns a 144 Hz monitor

David Perry
David Perry

Some people might consider you a peasant, just think about it for a second.

Brandon Phillips
Brandon Phillips

imagine being so mentally impaired since birth that when presented with technology that gives you access to entire knowledge of your race right in front of you within 1second of searching about anything you instead result to replying with "I dont know what that is" and move on with your worm incest inbred life
fakeposting cope or 80 Hz hertzlet

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Jordan Jones
Jordan Jones

lol cry more, fag

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Kevin Sanchez
Kevin Sanchez

If you are a competetive gamer who needs the edge against your opponent, then you need it, the more the better
Doing light-gaming, programming, working etc. then yes, it's 110% a meme

inb4 muh games, whether you like it or not, it's still happening, and esports are one of the biggest growing forms of entertainment
And refresh rate does most certainly matter in esports

Ryder Parker
Ryder Parker

you should be the one crying because u were born crippled in the head that you cant tell the difference between 60 Hz and 144 Hz, like i feel bad for laughing at you being this retarded, the difference is day and night, especially on your monitor which is like top 10-20

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Carson Long
Carson Long

i can tell the difference, but i don't gayme anymore
so it's worthless

nice cope, you dumb faggot lmao

Luis Cooper
Luis Cooper

so you dont see the difference doing other tasks? do you not feel the input delay writing in electron apps vs something native like notepad? like i said, crippled since birth
install chrome or compile chromium if you dont want botnet and enable GPU flags then test 60 Hz vs 144 Hz and just rope neck jump if you cant feel the difference

Owen Flores
Owen Flores

Well I asked you if you could explain what was written because you shared your knowledge with us and you made an impression of a smart person.

Asher Wright
Asher Wright

goddamn, you're a persistent autist, i'll give you that
you lost the argument, now stop replying to me, bugman

Ryan Price
Ryan Price

why would you browse this board if you dont even know what -O3 means???????????????????

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Robert Ross
Robert Ross

To learn what it means? I am not afraid to ask people questions.

Nathan Peterson
Nathan Peterson

you are allowed to like technology without having compiled gentoo

Ethan Parker
Ethan Parker

no i will keep replying till thread dies

Jonathan Jackson
Jonathan Jackson

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_methods
pick any
he never touched a compiler in his life, he is a consumer trash that thinks he belongs here because he is "humble" by asking questions, while deep down he is just a consumer whore that needs validation of his status being better than other likewise a bit smarter NPCs

Gavin White
Gavin White

Why are you linking me Suicide methods? What does that have to do with my question?

Aaron Myers
Aaron Myers

O3 is an optimization setting for a compiler

Levi Watson
Levi Watson

great technology, but makes small frame jumps and stutters alot worse

Wyatt Perez
Wyatt Perez

Are you on drugs?

Luis Bennett
Luis Bennett

he's still mad 2 days later

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