/pcbg/ - PC Building General

no
there might be during newegg's sale though

I do have a 144hz screen, so a higher framerate wouldn't hurt.

Ballistix Elite 2x8 GB 3600mhz CL16 for $105

Adding to that, I'm using a R9 290 right now. So upgrading to a 580 wouldn't be too massive, and the cheapest 580 is a €150 4GB one or a 8GB one for €180, which doesn't seem like a good deal for the performance increase I would be getting.

Reposting:
I'm considering a Corsair MP510 vs a Samsung 970 Evo Plus for my OS drive, the Corsair is $40 cheaper, has a better warranty, and the random reads/writes don't seem that far off from each other. They're both TLC. What's the better choice?

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when is that?

Wish I knew what the b450 tomahawk max was going to go for so I can decide whether to wait or not.

today at 12PM EST

is there a particular thermal paste I should or shouldn't buy

what's the bare minimum required to run photoshop well while streaming at 1440p these days?

mx2/mx4 is the general recommendation I believe

Is the new AMD stuff out yet

Alright, I've got $1,300. What is the BEST laptop I can get on Prime day? Looking at these two right now:

notebookcheck.net/Asus-ROG-Zephyrus-S-GX531GS-i7-8750H-GTX-1070-Max-Q-FHD-Laptop-Review.357366.0.html

notebookcheck.net/MSI-GL73-8SE-i7-8750H-RTX-2060-Laptop-Review.403811.0.html

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yes

Except the 3950x (due september), EPYC (soon™) and custom versions of navi cards (August), yes.

Is this what the kids are up to these days? Why would you do that?

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what sort of rig do I need to run FNV4GB 30fps?

who here /comfy/ waiting for next year to buy amd's final AM4 shit

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Nitro XV272UPbmiiprzx or Aorus AD27QD ? 100$ difference and I see nothing of value lost. Please help, thanks

Anything made in the last 5 years. An Athlon 200GE without graphics card would give you >60fps

Aorus definitely

I'm just buying a 1600 with a decent mobo. Might be upgrading to the last AM4 CPU after that but franky even a 1600 would probably be enough for me for the next 5 years.

will am4 work with b450 boards? I might skip 3000 series.

Might sell off my 3900x and get the 4950x if it'll still work with X570
depends what intel's counterattack is

what do you think?
budget 2000€ with a monitor

might swap parts to make it a matx build

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I needed to ugprade so no I'm not comfy. Fuck intel and fuck nvidia

>128Mb (16MB) ROM

Yeah no, frogposter.

My current build is a 6700K @ 5GHz and a Titan X (Pascal), with a custom water loop. Main monitor is a ROG PG278Q (the 1440p 144Hz G-sync TN).

All this stuff is a few years old now. I'd like to upgrade, mostly because I love the process of building the PC, but I think I've hamstrung myself by making an overspecced PC in 2016 that is still a great performer today.

If you were going to upgrade from this, what would you buy? I want to keep at 1440 144Hz.

SERIOUS QUESTION HERE:
should I upgrade now with 8c/16t CPU
OR wait and get 16core ryzen in September?
Thing is, if I wait, I'll have meme PC with:
- 16GB vRAM
- 16GB RAM
- 16 core CPU
What do you think, is it worth to wait to make this meme!? Would my PC be blessed???

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Torn between these monitors on sale for Prime Day: BenQ EW3270U, Samsung UJ590, Samsung U32H850, LG 32UK550

All are about 350 eur, what would be the best for light photo/video editing?

But what justify those 100$ ? Also 2 or 3 monitor if it was you for gaming and working ?

>First day of zen 2 build
>No post
>Day two of zen 2 build
>Works fine suddenly
>Day three of zen 2 build
>Works fine
>Day four of zen 2 build
>No post
Holy shit why is it taking so long for MSI to update the fucking BIOS
This is ridiculous

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Gotta go for the 16, bro.

There's no need for an upgrade. Don't burn your money user. If you really want to build stuff, build a NAS or HTPC.

9900k
16gb 4800mhz ram
asus maximus xi apex
amd is trash.

3600X is a stupid CPU. You pay $50 for the X in the name.
Go 3700x or stay 3600.
Don't buy 5700xt, the cooler is abysmal. Either get 5700 non-xt or wait for custom cards while using your old card.
See if you can get ddr4-3600 mem.

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looks good to me. Fuck mATX though.

Imagine not having an optical drive in your computer. You don't actually do this right?

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After turning it on and off like 7 times then it decided to boot into windows
I feel bad for the unlucky people

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bit of a weird question
depends if you're rich enough to upgrade more often just for the sake of it
you don't currently need to upgrade, and you wouldn't really feel the upgrade of a 9900k and 2080 ti
if you like building PCs, get pc building simulator, do scale models or DIY, or look into getting a job building PCs

the future is now old man

Why buy a new one? Everybody has one already.

Guess you're right. The other thing I might look at is a small form factor PC for running emulators in my living room.

I've got a server with a auto copy to iso function
if I need to use a CD I just load up the ISO over my 10G network
if I need to burn one I just use my laptop

Of course not. I have accumulated 5 or 6 drives over the years (some still IDE). Would be a waste not using them. Great for my DVD collection.

I want to upgrade my Ryzen 1700 + X370 board, however I want threadripper and I'm really not sure what motherboard compatibility is going to be going forward

It's alright for that price
tomshardware.com/reviews/thermaltake-toughpower-grand-rgb-850w-gold-psu,5822.html
You can probably find something better.
Also I doubt you need more than 650w. I'd recommend a Corsair RMx or Seasonic Focus Plus Gold.

You'll have to wait till threadripper is out anyway, but you'd probably get better thermals/OC on something better than X370, if it's even compatible

>non-super 2060 still hasn't been price cut
guess this card is going the radeon7 route. rip

it's been confirmed that the non-supers are getting axed.

I have a shitload of 140mm radiators so thermals aren't a issue
I couldn't find anything searching for it so I'm assuming there's no news

No more suggestions, eh?
OK, I'll cope with my 1700 for now and go with 16 cores!

>Threadripper
>X370
based LARPing Intcels

I obviously meant upgrading the motherboard too

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Obviously, with how X370 boards went with zen 2 it's concerning for TR4.
cringe

There are instances where NVMe (over PCI-e 4x) vs SATA is better for gaming, there's several games that show notable improvements that I'm aware of. Games that stream in large amounts of world content around them in real time that typically give people a lot of stutter are much better on NVMe one really clear example is subnautica.

Certain games that allow really high resolution textures build for 4k displays such as R6 Siege have better load times on the maps. And games that allow a lot of modding or a lot of complexity that also stream in content tend to perform way better when loading, such as Kerbel Space Program.

But a lot of other games don't benefit at all most games that have long load times aren't bottlenecked by the data from the drive but the CPU time to instantiate the AI and all the world variables etc. So games like GTAV for example, that have brutally slow load times even on i7's are still no faster.

Depends what games you play and what your other system specs are like as to where the bottleneck sits and this differs from game to game.

For reference I run 2x 512Gb 960 Pros in RAID0

I knew the 70 card was but I thought they were trying to keep the 60 as a viable budget option. a shame the 1660ti exists, since they could've moved the 2060non-s down to that tier.

Thinking of getting the Corsair Vengeance LPX 8x2 GB 3200Mhz. Is the choice acceptable?

me with 1600x gonna upgrade to 4600x once 5600x is released for half the price.

Reposting:
>Take Prime Day deal for an RX 590 today, upgrade to RDNA later
Or
>Stick it out for 5700 XT partner cards and pay early adopter tax
Please respond.

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Try the crucial ballistix at the same speed/timing instead. Word on the street is the E-die overclocks better with ryzen than hynix die of corsair.

Amazon prime are also having a sale today on 3600/16 Crucial ballistix elite, it's probably the best value ram for ryzen 3 yet at the price it is now

Go nvidia and avoid a housefire

I have 2x8GB 3200Hz Corsair Vengance right now. Any reason why the RGB version of this exact model would not be compatable to upgrade to 4x8?

Nvidia has dogshit GNU/Linux drivers and isn't even an option

Is that so?

stick it out
false economy and impatience are among the easiest ways to waste money

how does /pcbg/ feel about mechanical keyboards? is $50 for a havit blue switch keyboard a good deal?

what are your use cases? do you need insane computing performance? go for the 16c
do you need good all around performance from gaymen to productivity, the 8c is perfectly capable for that, so you can save a lot of money to invest in a better GPU, more storage or a better monitor.

any good 1440p monitors on sale for prime day?

they're good, $50 for a cherry MX keyboard is pretty good, although blue switches are one of the worst ones.
Also mechanical keyboards can vary drastically in quality depending on the manufacturer, so you might wanna look at the reviews to see if it has some glaring flaws.

xb271, vg270

it's this one amazon.com/dp/B01AVQT95Y/?tag=pcpapi-20&th=1

never heard of this company before, not sure if I should go with that or a $43 logitech membrane one

disregard my last post looks like they have typical chinese customer support

it'll be a lot better than any membrane keyboard for sure, although the keys are not real cherry MX, but if that's your budget, it looks like a good keyboard for the price.

i'll consider swapping cpu
old gpu is 1060 3gb so i guess i could wait
i thought 3600 didn't make much of a difference

3600 is £175 on amazon right now, pretty tempting

How is emulation on the 3900X?

amazon.ca/CYBERPOWERPC-Supreme-SLC10202ACA-i9-9900K-GeForce/dp/B07J1W2NHB?ref_=Oct_DLandingS_b917fda1_3&smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB

A few dumb hardware choices, but does this not seem too cheap for a prebuilt? Not really sure how I’d make this at this low of a price

Yeah, definitely do wait for aib xt cards. You can do that somewhat comfortably with the 1060. Remember to remove all traces of NVIDIA with e.g. DDU afterward.
3700x would not improve gaming considerably, but would improve everything else.
ddr4-3600 is just the maximum ram where infinity fabric will scale 1:1 without messing with overclock settings, so it'll yield the lowest latencies you can get short of doing that. If it costs only a little more, I'd go for it.

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How come Intel is STILL faster than AMD in games, even though the new Ryzen supposedly has higher IPC and beats Intel in synthetic single thread benchmarks?

>ViewSonic XG2401 @ 159.99
amazon.com/gp/product/B01A0ZRR50/
VS
>MSI - Optix MAG241C @ 199.99 newegg
what would you do?

You x370 should run the 3950X fine stock. It's just a question of how good the BIOS support is going to be from your board manufacturer.

Good. It worked well on the 2700X to begin with.

BIOS issues and Nvidia driver issues is responsible for some of the big outliers.
Some software is just optimized for intel, too. Intel compiler is a thing and some still use it even though there are better alternatives for both CPUs.

If it's an emulator that's latency sensitive like RPCS3, 3700x might be better because you have 4 cores per CCX instead of 3 in 3900X

>TN vs Else
Else.

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Who are these cute boys?

samsung is more reliable
up to you

Memory and core latency
youtu.be/RmxkpTtwx1k?t=497

Is a good time to bite the bullet on RAM? Prices seem to be picking up again, or is that just retailers raising prices before restocking?

>japan vs korea trade war is gonna fuck prices up for a while, I'd buy now

>Links to a very, very specific time in the video
Why try and deemphatise the rest? :-)

reminder that newegg sales start in 25minutes