What does Jow Forums think of closed loop water cooling?

What does Jow Forums think of closed loop water cooling?

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build a custom loop or get a beefy air cooler

extremely gay

my Kraken stopped working after 2 years

Big heatsink > air, water doesn’t matter. I installed a big Noctua HSF

it's cool
>hehe

A meme I wish I went with Noctua my components don’t feel safe

mine still works after 4y, should I upgrade it? what's the live spam of this things?

good ones can last a decade but those krakens are notorious for failing quickly

A complete waste of time and money because dark rock and noctua have air coolers that work better, are cheaper, and make less noise

But muh aesthetics.

worthless, I have a Scythe fuma with 3 of the superfas industry fans from noctua on it and it shit's all over AIO's

fuck ur AESTHETHIQQS, the asstek pump dies right out of the warrenty time anyways id just get a custom loop kir or a beefy air cooler like that user said

you can jerk your metaphorical aesthetical dong to a 200 burgershekel custom loop kit

sure is cool when you're 12

Aside from the bigger AIOs, they're pretty much on par with high end air.
Unless you get a big one, then they're a bit of a meme. They do take up less space on the CPU so there's that benefit.

Pic related on the other hand is an AIO with standard sized fittings, so you can expand it and connect it to a GPU block etc..
Basically a compact custom loop. This kind of stuff should really be an industry standard with AIOs. Would make them far more versatile and if some part of it like the pump gets fucked, you could just replace it with something else.

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the Eisbaer is notorious for failing ceramic bearings, producing a ear bleeding high pitch noise
its also a pain in the ass to bleed the system
>t. former Eisbaer owner

It's no surprise that the parts in these are cheap and prone to failure.
Aside from the brand or the model the concept of an expandable AIO is a very nice one.
It should really be a standard, because many of these AIOs could definitely manage both GPU and CPU cooling.

Spbp

Not worth, just get Noctua NH D15 and you are 10000% sure that your pc won't get hurt due to a bad pump or leakage. It will keep your pc cool even when the fans are broken and you will have lots of time to realize and fix that before it destroys your PC.

Pointless.

Just use a big air cooler for similar performance with less noise.

Open loop is superior.
Then you don't need a radiator or fans.

CPU's don't get damaged when you don't cool them.
They just throttle down Apple style.

Loud, prone to failure and don't cool any better than high end air.

Summary: Garbage.

yeah just drain the hot water and grab cool water from the tap

I thought about making a water feature, like a fountain or a tiny "waterfall" containing maybe 20 liters of water and use that as an aesthetic fan-less radiator.

How stupid of an idea is it?

Using cooler than room temperature water will cause condensation to form inside your computer.

Utterly pointless. Costs more than air cooling and has worse performance per dollar AND performance per dB of noise. Either get a full custom loop or stick with air.

Only if the difference is considerable.

Based as fuck, once you remove the Semen Interface Material (tm) isn't bottlenecking your CPU.

bit-tech.net/reviews/tech/cooling/noctua-nh-u12a-review/2/

>14C difference between one of the "best" air coolers
Even the AIOs shit all over air cooling. Air cooling is a toy for toy computers.

That's why AIOs are in considered bad, people are too retarded to utilize them to their max.

Haha, yeah nah.
Check some non-retard benchmarks, don't take my word for it.

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the only advantage is that theres not a 5kg heatsink putting stress on your mainboard, but they all perform worse than high end, yet cheaper air coolers

that corsair water loop in the article you linked is like a thousand bucks
epic troll!

All the performance of a fat air cooler but with added points of failure and cost along with constant noise.

the most Jow Forums virgin basement dweller answer.

I actually have friends to play games with, so when we have lan parties I bring my pc. I don't want a beefy aircooler ripping out of my motherboard or a custom leak springing a leak while being moved. name a better option than an aio.

>you can't

If you use compression fittings and drain your loop before transport, you'll be fine but yes I'd agree this is one of the few usecases for CLCs. Personally though I've never had any trouble transporting my machine with an NH-D15 inside so long as I had it in the box and oriented properly.

>needing to play fucking graphically overblown /tv/games so goddamn bad you have to fucking pipe WATER through your damn system to cool it
Stop being stupid.

This. Either go with a full water loop or just get a NH-D15 and save yourself hundreds.

>poo fan with no rgb

>he cares about anything but raw performance for his fucking case and cpu fans
Just end yourself user.

better than an open loop

Don't forget cheaper and less error prone.

>What does Jow Forums think of closed loop water cooling?
unnecessary for 95% of users. even with overclocking I have never wanted for more than my $20 212 EVO.

uhhh

This is true. They do get damaged if you spray water on them out of a leaky hose though.

Anyone think of connecting their custom loop up to a big home radiator so they need less / no fans?

Open loop master race. Have your cooling loop connected to a faucet and controlled by a solenoid valve. You get a radiator and pump but no fans. When the water in the system gets too hot, another valve releases some of the water into the drain, and the system refills with fresh cold water from the faucet.

You'll still need a heat exchanger or you'll heat soak the pool eventually. Heat exchanger surface area is pretty much all that matters; volume just affects how long it takes to reach thermal equilibrium.

a good looking meme.

only worth for extreme cases of OC or small compact builds.

If it's a fountain then it'll act like a heat exchanger as the water is exposed to air.
Maybe not the most efficiently, but decently. Satuation would take a long ass time and it would be easy to replace water.

>chirping intensifies

stop being a autist fuckwit and get a heatsink or go full custom loop. AIO are designed for idiots who jerk off to child cartoon porn and want stalk children at parks.

>lan parties
You have to go back /v/toddler

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I have had mine about 3 years, probably slightly less. Its been so much hassle. Wouldn't do it again.

nobody but boomers do lan parties these days user

Basically this, the ones in my area are usually sponsored by a craft brewery.

Nice, where's that? I ant to sippppp and rocket jump

NZ, that's all I'll say I have to say to the CIA.

Just seal your computer case and give your computer its own atmosphere with no humidity.
>no airflow
Not an issue. Place a radiator in your case and run your sub ambient coolant through it, and put fans to circulate your atmosphere across it. This will cool the gas inside your computer and keep case temps in line.

Been considering it. Air can beat AIO, but the air coolers that do compare are huge and heavy and GPU sag is already enough of an issue with a car block hanging off the CPU.

Considering just because of the weight. And at this point things aside from GPU and CPU are needing cooling and having a cooler clog the center of the case is a bit meh as well. My thoughts for why I'm leaning that way.

I would recommend keeping the loop in your computer separate from the water feature, since PC watercooling components are very sensitive to the fluid that runs in them. If piped water that was flowing in the open, treated how water feature water is treated, and pumped by a water feature pump, there's a good chance it would gunk up the waterblocks in your computer. You can still use the feature to unobtrusively cool you computer, but I would build a traditional watercooling setup, and then place the radiators in the water used for the feature.

>muh huge air coolers

yeah have fun sticking a fucking engine radiator in the middle of your motherboard. Really fun shopping for components having to account for the giant piece of metal blocking the way.

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I will admit I have had some issues with this and ram. Having to pull the fan off sharp cooler fins to slot in a ram stick upgrade is a pain in the ass.

go custom or get a beefy air cooler, CLCs are for pussies not manly enough to go full custom

>don't buy EPIC GAYMER HUGE HEATSINK ram
>job done
i will admit i've bled on my fuckhuge noctua more times than i'd care to admit, but i'd take that over having a pump die or a leak occur on an aio.

Have a 240mm AIO, it's ok and has lasted 4 years so far without problems but pump/fan noise us louder than expected. Got a NH-D15 ready for my next build

>what is chromax

he said lan parties, not discord groups

lol just put your computer in a minifridge lol

You'll need a beefy pump, and I'd imagine that kind of pressure would damage the cpu

What problems have you had? I got a corsair AIO for pretty cheap at Micro Center due to a pricing error and it's been great, but I'd like to know potential issues for a source outside of shill sites or pissed off reviewers on amazon/newegg.

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is it possible to get a water cooling unit that cools my gfx card and my cpu at the same time
anyone know a brand that does that?

Radiators are even more of a pain to clean. You have completely take them off so the fan isn't blocking the way of removing the dirt/dust.

thermodynamics says nope

That would be a custom loop.

Only useful for mITX memebuilds.

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expensive, shit pumps, shit tubing, mostly crappy rads, literally just jacking up performance by putting high rpm loud fans with shit noise signature
also risk of leak and guaranteed coolant evaporation, if you are running it on some housefire, good chance of pump dying prematurely because of warm coolant
just get highend air cooler and if you really dont care about loud fans, put some 2500rpm fans of it and get better performance for less, and no annoying pump noise when idle

this video doesn't that into account how that giant cube fucks up airflow inside the case

Get out

I never understood the point other than visual asthetics. Instead of having a radiator directly ontop of the CPU with a short liquid connection of the heatpipes, you've moved the radiator somewhere else with a coolant bridge to get to it.

Basically paying 3x as much to get something that can hard-fail for visual benefit in a box that should be hidden.

>reportedly fucks up airflow
>still cools better and quieter
yup, clcs are shit

Get a dustblower

decent but I hate how all of them require fucking software to govern them nicely. Much rather have a fat fucking air cooler. Big THICC coolers such as the Noctua DH-D15 and the BQ! Dark Rock Pro 4 are within 2C of even top tier 360mm AiO units.

not sure why all these faggots are spouting bullshit about leaks and pumps messing up your CPU - the likelihood of that occurring is slim to none. AIO coolers are dope and don't look disgusting. Yall need to get off Jow Forums and go jerk off to LTT forums

AIOs can actually fuck your VRMs.

...what? Do you sincerely think that fat air coolers "fuck up air flow" to the point where it creates a negative impact?

It's not the cooler's fault if someone chose a cheap mobo with shit VRMs

Not worth the risk of leakage.
>Asetek has tight control over its patent, meaning that under the hood, AIOs are basically the same despite the gimmicks that manufacturers slap onto their AIO
>AIOs have high failure rates. There's basically an AIO lottery. Some last for years, others last only for weeks or a month.
>AIOs become expensive as the size of the radiator increases.
>If the pump leaks and it spills all over your components, you'll have to send an e-mail to the AIO manufacturer and explain that their product damaged your computer.
>You're gonna have to wait for a replacement of the AIO and the damaged item. While it's a good thing, having to wait for replacement parts generally take a long time. Plus, some manufacturers have terrible customer support like ASUS.

Really, I was almost about to buy an AIO for the sole reason of aesthetics after watching Hardware Canuck's Kraken x62 AIO video. But when I did some research about AIO pump failures and the whole Asetek patent issue, I immediately changed my mind.
I'm sticking with my Noctua NH-D15. I'll wait for the white Chromax fans and slap them onto my heatsink and couple it with the heat sink covers.
Besides, the NH-D15 can perform just as well as a CLC, if not better.

cont.
You never really see manufacturers claiming that their AIO is leak-proof. They never make such claims because they're well aware that at any given point in time, leakage can and will happen. And it's not possible to determine when and how it will happen because like I said, AIOs have an element of lottery.
The only manufacturer to make a "leak-proof" AIO is Deep Cool with their DeepCool Captain 240 Pro and its other variants.
>amazon.com/dp/B074N13ZRR/ref=emc_b_5_t
Check out the reviews and you'll realize why no one claims to make an AIO that will never leak.

Oh, and the best part? If your AIO leaks and the liquid fries your graphics card, the manufacturer has the discretion to REFUSE to provide any compensation for the card IF IT'S A SECOND-HAND ITEM. And this depends on each manufacturer. As far as I know, almost all AIO manufacturers will refuse to provide compensation for a damaged second-hand graphics card.

So if you're currently pairing a second-hand graphics card and a brand new AIO, I highly suggest that you constantly monitor your AIO and see if there are any signs of leakage.

Don't most tower coolers blow air over the VRM and not really into it? Wouldn't that also cause heat related problems compared to stock coolers that are usually of the downdraft type? Genuine question because I'm thinking about replacing the stock AMD wraith cooler with a tower to limit noise.

>get 1 or two degrees better then a chunk of aluminum.
>chunk doesn't fail, fans are just side upgrades.
>fans and pump are both integral to operations on closed loops, failures fuck it up.