Want help? >State budget & CURRENCY >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs based on current pricing: >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on most mobos with the right BIOS) >R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming >R5 2600 - Good gaming CPU with great value >R5 3600 - Great gaming CPU >R7 3700X - Overkill gaming CPU >R7 1700X - Budget video editing >R9 3900X - Professional tasks
RAM: >Do not use a single DIMM. 2 sticks ONLY for a typical dual channel CPU >CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 3200CL16 or Micron E-die ("AES" in code) recommended >AMD B & X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP >B-die is EOL, stocks are limited
GPUs based on current pricing: 1080p >RX 570/580 8GB - Can be found on sale for cheap. Look for 570s which are >1240MHz boost >GTX 1660 - higher fps / more demanding games >RX 5700 - even higher FPS 1440p >RX 5700 - basic >RX 5700XT - standard >RTX 2070 Super - higher framerates in SOME games 2160p (4K) >RTX 2070S OC - budget option. Turing performance scales better into 4K than Navi does. >2080Ti - best for 4K but expensive
>Navi AIB models come mid-August. 5700 blower is alright, due to low power.
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >Yes, adaptive sync (free/g/sync) is important >SSD Guide (250GB+ SATA bare minimums): i.imgur.com/79MYtoE.png >NVMe isn't better than SATA SSD for gaming >"Bottleneck checker" sites don't work >Don't use Speccy >AM4 VRMs + Monitors under "more"
AMD has always pushed their dies a bit to the limits because they can't bin as much as Nvidia does, due to lower volume. Still, it's higher perf/watt than the cards it competes with stock. 1070Ti perf for 90W is pretty funny. I wonder what the reception would be if AMD offered that stock. Don't think people would pay $400 for it, is the problem, which is why AMD pushes their dies so much.
Reviewers only shill perf/watt when it's Nvidia, is the thing. They didn't care when the 7970 won on perf/watt by 35-40% over the 580, but they shilled the 680 HARD when it won over the 7970 by only 10-15%. They shilled Pascal hard on perf/watt, but don't care now that Navi is better.
>RTX 2070 Super - higher framerates in SOME games Why doesn't it also say >lower framerates in others ??? It's only 2% faster on average, and if you replace the cooler it performs the same since that 2% less fps is purely down to thermal throttling lmao.
arent you supposed to be able to run downsampled from 4k with barely any performance impact with the 5700xt? i turned on VSR and RIS but get the normal 4k fps
Adam Rodriguez
Can i use a Windows 8.1 key to activate windows 10 or do i have to install 8.1 first? Shits so fucking confusing.
Easton Williams
Is there any reason I should buy an Acer Predator XB271HK over an Acer Nitro VG270K?
It's literally £200 more just for gysnc over freesync and a "Gamerz rulezzzz fellow kidz" sticker on it
>both IPS panel >both 4k >both 27" >both 60Hz refresh Is this literally just Nvidia being filthy ripoff merchants?
Brayden Morris
the vg270k is an innolux panel or some shit while the other one is an optronic or something. google 'acer innolux flickering'
Leo Myers
>all of that why?
Samuel Martin
Why is it telling me I have to download the GeForce experience and install the drivers through that now
Camden Lopez
If I don't care about PCIe 4.0, which of the X470 or B450 is the better chipset to go with for gaymen?
Jacob Reed
Yes. RIS/CAS only has a ~1% performance impact. And due to some games being blurry due to how they're rendered, 1800p upscaled to 4K with RIS/CAS sometimes looks better in some games than native 4K. There is a reshade CAS port, though the performance impact is more around 5% with it.
I don't think so. displayspecifications.com/en/comparison/01647a86a doesn't list the panel. I'm pretty certain they're the same, though. I can't find anything that says the VG270K is Innolux. Plus, just look at them. I think you're thinking of an older model of both the Nitro and Predator which used Innolux. >Is this literally just Nvidia being filthy ripoff merchants? Yes.
idk. If it were me, I'd just install Windows and try using the 8.1 key. If that doesn't work, buy a $5-$10 key. $10 is not worth the hassle of installing 8.1 then upgrading to 10 after the fact.
B450. x470 is just 2 more SATA ports and 2 more PCIe lanes or something.
To spy on you.
Jordan James
They're all shit honestly, just pick which kind of BIOS issues you prefer. I settled with ASUS, MSI was garbage.
Asher Robinson
the chipset doesn't matter just get a good board
Austin Bennett
interesting, thanks. Seems like they're being good with fixing the offending units though?
Because I'm a crybaby that wants 4k gaming but thinks that all the stuff specifically designed to look cool to gamers looks dumb as fuck. ASUS ROG line for example.
Julian Collins
What would be the ideal for an office PC that could handle multiple monitors for cheap and isn't terrible slow? I'm thinking of building a small PC with a 2400G, that should be cheap and fast enough, right?
Levi Thompson
4k on a 27" display is fucking tiny. look at one at a store before you buy it. also >60hz
Caleb Lee
>4k gaming >60Hz a meme enjoy your slide show
Jaxon Sanchez
Just use MS toolkit, my 8.1 to 10 install refused to reactivate when I got a new mobo.
It seems like it looks good, good resolution, good contrast, fair reaction time, good price, and can G-sync or Freesync, naturally. A jack of all trades, that's not outstanding, but will hold it's value. Any insight?
I play flight sims where situational awareness & spotting >>> splitting milliseconds. I figure 4k at 60fps is more valuable than 1440 at 144fps, but if I could justify dropping £1k on a monitor to get the full FPS output of a 2080ti then i would
Ayden Sanders
VA panels are great if you don't mind some motion smearing on dark colors. I don't like curved monitors personally but that's a controversial topic.
Leo Sanders
Hi, /g
Whats the best HTPC case with sleek looks, good cable management with dust filters that can be removed and washed? Its going under my TV, next to my stereo. Wirelss mouse and or remote control will be used to interact.
Does a gammaxx 400 fan really push 75cfm? I have a couple of Arctic F12 lying around that supposedly only do 53CFM. I wouldn't have thought that a fan that comes with a £25 cooler is that much stronger.
Adrian Brooks
I'm used to playing on LCD monitors or merely playing videos, I don't think I'll notice. I just couldn't find a better deal for 1440p with all those other specs thrown in. There's loads of screens that hit a similar price point and similar specs, but don't have 1440p.
Jonathan Evans
oh fuck, nevermind guys, my gay country will hit me with some import fees. not worth it.
I would be using it almost exclusively for gaming. I'm aiming for 1440p at 144Hz. The GTX 1070 is my current GPU but I won't be buying a new one until benchmarks for 3rd party RTX Super cards are out.
Instead of the Predator I put in my original message. Fucked up and linked the wrong one.
Robert Cox
D15 for a 3600 is extreme overkill unless you can't tolerate anything more than absolute silence.
Easton Kelly
So can I not install my gpu drivers now unless I use that spyware
Juan Torres
You don't have to install geforce experience to get nvidia drivers.
Dylan Jones
>that posture yikes
>nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/hXjyw6 Build is fine. >either 1080p 240hz or 1440p 144hz Those are entirely different. And you'll only run a few games at that framerate. Many games are locked to 200fps max, too.
idk I stopped using Nvidia because of issues with their drivers/software. I'm not up to date on whether that's true or not. I know they did bundle their telemetry with the driver instead of geforce experience software back in 2016 or 2017.
Leo Jenkins
Hardly, I have a D15 on mine and it still pushes 70+c under load. These chips are hot fuckers.
Joseph Watson
how about the NHD15 on a 3700X? will that be a silent build?
Isaac Brown
Yeah, I linked the wrong Acer monitor. Was meant to be the Predator XB271HU.
Would the stock cooler be good enough then, or would you recommend a different one?
Kevin Young
I just tried to install it normally like I always do, but it keeps giving me an error and telling I need to download GeForce experience and install though there
Daniel Sanders
pcpartpicker.com/list/DPn7kd Thoughts? Would it be worth it to put off getting the gpu now and wait for Aug/Sept?
Dylan Gutierrez
How fast is the fan spinning at that temperature? Mine barely hits 700 RPM cooling an r7 1700 pulling 130 watts.
Levi Powell
Currently looking to upgrade my R5 1600/RX 580. Any suggestions for what I should upgrade to for either?
Bentley Watson
That's probably because heat transfer from the cpu to the cooler is limited due to the small die. I doubt you're getting much of an improvement compared to any decent tower cooler like a Scythe Mugen 5.
Luis Reed
Don't buy the reference navi cards unless you already own a loud whiny card and know you don't care at all. Loud blower fans can be a nasty surprise.
Jacob Cruz
Looks good, I wouldn't bother waiting 2 months for the GPU, I did the same a few months ago waiting for the 5700XT specs and i've still not decided on which GFX card to get. The 5 year old in me still wants to eat noodles for a month and get a 2080Ti, I wish i'd jsut pushed the button a month ago.
Lincoln Davis
1300rpm I know, i already had the cooler from a previous build.
Joseph King
I need wi-fi on my pc. Are usb wifi adapters just as good as PCIE? any recommendations for something that isn't overkill, but is still decent
Jackson Watson
Are the chips really that hot? That's a very high RPM for such a light load. I was going to get a 3900x but if it's going to cook even with a D15 it's less appealing.
Brody Kelly
I think I'll compromise and use a 970 from current build until they release.
Jonathan Collins
NZXT H500 or Meshify C? Would prefer windowless but I really like how sharp the H500 looks.
Gavin Johnson
Aren't super cards out already, why are they not on amazon? When will they?
Lucas Powell
>Yes. RIS/CAS only has a ~1% performance impact. how do you turn on the upscaling thing?
How do I move my OS and files from one M.2 to another?
Cooper Hernandez
Am I the only person that uses a tv for a pc screen? If there were above 40" monitors at the same price I'd go for them but alas.
Asher Reyes
second this
Brody Morales
aren't you cucked in gaymen by the limited refresh rate?
Jordan Bailey
>pcpartpicker.com/list/DPn7kd >Thoughts? Would it be worth it to put off getting the gpu now and wait for Aug/Sept? Unless you're up for modding or replacing the GPU cooler yourself, I'd wait until mid august.
Upgrade why? >STATE YOUR PURPOSE
Unless you have confirmation and a citation that that monitor supports MBR simultaneously with Freesync, stop shilling it.
It's built into RIS, isn't it? It's only supported on Navi.
Nvidia realized they couldn't compete with Navi and just gave up. RX 5700/XT is a lot better than anyone expected.
Aiden Hall
Budget? Usecase? Etc.... generally, 3600 is an awesome bang-for-buck processor and a massive upgrade over the 1600 The 5700 is probably the next GPU you want to look into unless you really want realtime raytracing
Gavin Nelson
Can i use a video projector and the adjacent building i live in to play vidya? i mean by putting the projector on the window at night and using the massive wall of the building i'll get a 1000"+ screen right?
Matthew Rogers
>best monitor
that's not the asus pg279q
Julian Hall
Had this issue yesterday, would always say tjat the standard issue of this driver is not compatible with this version of windows. I also get no nvidia control panel
Nicholas Rogers
meshify c. a good reason is in the name
Nathaniel Hill
I prefer resolution to refresh rate. Not like 4k makes any sense on anything that isn't at least 40 inches.
Samuel Campbell
I have an old Phenom II x4 system that I'm thinking about upgrading, if I buy a new mobo/ram/processor can I just plug my harddrives into it and boot into my current windows 7 install just fine?
Andrew Jackson
no cares faggot research it yourself Preorders sold out already because its the best Fuck outa here with that legacy 4ms panel
real talk all memes aside, can one really feel the difference between 4ms and 1ms
Jason Perry
Is internal hard drive redundancy a meme for neet consumers that just want to protect porn and anime?
Jaxon Garcia
Probably not but this is the best now and 500 is cheap for what you get
Michael Williams
upgrading from a 580 ti either 5700 is not worth it IMO and neither is going from a 1600 to a 3600 for gaming unless you get a higher end card than the 5700 xt
Cameron Cruz
>2 blower cards in OP image Why tho
Hudson Powell
I did notice that when I did my clean install of Windows it automatically installed the control panel for me. But I uninstalled it so that might have been why
Landon Price
d14 on mine with low noise adaptor. classic.
Michael Rodriguez
>athelon 2200g and 580 also there Its a shill thread bro
Jaxon Parker
because this is the only succ you'll ever experience in your life
Aaron Clark
>x570 boards that were 169$ are over 200$ now >the ones that were $200 are sold out >won't be restocked for months >b550 nowhere in sight >price hikes everywhere
I picked the worst time to build
Andrew Howard
for the price of a new 580 i got a perfect used 1070
Chase Parker
What, are you gonna actually use PCIe 4.0 anytime soon?
Just get a B450 or something and hang on for a bit.
Asher Carter
>legacy
fuck that, that 4ms panel can even hit 165hz with fantastic color reproduction.
>but i need 1ms for my 1440p display
please
Brody Gutierrez
did you even read the reviews on amazon? it looks shit.
Lucas Green
muh bios though
Brayden Cooper
no, a year and a half ago was the worst time to build. this is the best time
>16gb 3000mhz kits are $85 >PSU 650w gold+ is $90 >used gtx1080ti is $450-550 >144hz monitors are the new norm >select freesync monitors work with nvidia cards >AMD has competitive chips for once >Intel has started to finally solder some of their CPUs >there are so many good cases to use
stop being such a bitch
Jose Thomas
Just look for a cheap board, look at manufacturer's website to see if there's a BIOS update for it. If there isn't a BIOS update, on to the next board.
And unless I'm getting the info wrong, you can boot with 3xxx on the legacy board, right? So boot, flash, you're good to go.
Eli Richardson
Then colors are better on the new lg panel. Its 4 years newer than your legacy panel, things have moved along and lg is the leader
or don't give into the hype, buy an intel cpu and motherboard, in a couple years overclock the shit out of it, and enjoy the hassle-free building process that comes with a quality product
Benjamin Miller
How much is it?
William Foster
Nice try, Intel rep. How's the new subreddit going for you?
Joshua Davis
>feel actual combat with true colors
oh yes, that 'actual combat'
my asus screen tests at 99% color accuracy.
Luke Harris
>tfw spent $80 on RAM in later 2017 >that very same RAM is $32 right now
500 dollary doos 98% dci-p3. Fucktard. It shits on the asus
Elijah Adams
buildapc is no better than Jow Forums
>BUY AMD, THEY'RE NOT INTEL AND IT'S CHEAP but i don't want am- >BUY AMD, WHY WOULD YOU WASTE MONEY intel has more longe- >NO, AMD IS THE BETTER PURCHASE what about all the bugs for ram and overcl- >ALL WILL BE SORTED OUT IN A FEW MONTHS, JUST BUY THEM NOW why buy now and wait for them to work when i can spend a couple hundred more and enjoy my pc no- >BUY AMD FUCK
/pcbg/ shit on me for buying an 8700 but in the many hours i've been using it, it hasn't blue-screened once and it gives great performance. money well spent