Calling it, this shit is going to become the de facto normie / mass population distribution in a couple of years. I believe higher ups didnt give so much of a shit about it untill they found it's actually quite nice and fast as hell. Now, much like Steam and their steamOS they plan to use it to leverage against windows if things go wrong. Intell advertising their own OS and putting some benchmarks to show on mass media could make a lot of damage microsoft.
I think is great btw, even if the close like google with android all the rest of the distributions would greatly benefit from it.
I started reading about nixOS recently. seems a distro that would replace the top 3 distros in a couple of years
Hunter Robinson
More options is a good thing. I wonder if that distribution will play nice with other hardware manufacturers out of the box though.
John Ortiz
braindead shill
Jackson Phillips
As lomg as it has an intel cpu itll be fine. Thats whe whole point of this distro.
Henry Bennett
Even unoptimized AMD runs faster in this than in other distributions. Thinking about it an AMD distribution would be cash
Nathaniel Gonzalez
I don't have an intel CPU so I could care less about some arbitrary locked-in distro.
Jeremiah King
Clear Linux leads in almost all of the Phoronix benchmarks. So I think you might be right.
Oliver Perry
been on nixos since fedora 13 and it won't ever get into top 3 because that would mean explaining nix to brainlets (impossibru)
Michael Butler
It only has a considerable lead in some select, special-case benchmarks like boot times. Plus it always has extreme optimisation flags versus opponents' bare -O2. Oftentimes its performance is equal to fedora workstation.
Thomas Jones
now try popOS
Samuel Rogers
>an amd distribution would be cash What's stopping you from making one?
Samuel Torres
If it's not easy to use, accessible and has a large repo, it's not going to happen.
John Stewart
Most people on Linux should really try popOS since they're too fucking dumb to properly set up their own system.
Blake Hughes
I have no respect for intel and AMD for making such sophisticated CPUs with intricate registers, and not providing tools to automatically optimise your code for them. So I won't slave my life away doing it manually like an idiot.
Jason Moore
i went with popOS because Ubuntu ran like trash and was pretty trash too popOS doesn't come with bloatware, comes with a better GNOME, comes with graphics drivers preinstalled, is cutting-edge, etc.
Asher Davis
Is this bait, or are you actually stupid?
Jason Cruz
Not an argument, shit eater.
Jayden Torres
So you are actually just stupid
Kayden Sanders
does it have negative optimization on AMD platforms?
Ayden Gutierrez
no. it's faster on intel but it still outperforms ubuntu on amd
Angel Perez
Not an argument, keep eating shit.
Jackson Gonzalez
>Even unoptimized AMD runs faster in this than in other distributions. Sauce
William Turner
Nah, AMD also runs faster, just not as much faster as intel
Daniel Diaz
Phoronix has the biggest hardon for this distro. Any benchmark involving linux (amd included) has clear as a reference
Carson Rivera
>and not providing tools to automatically optimise your code for them Stop being stupid. If you were smart you would know exact how retarded your post was, but you're just a dumb dumb who doesn't deserve to breathe air.
Isaiah Powell
I just asked for sauce to >Even unoptimized AMD runs faster in this than in other distributions. user.
Robert Thompson
Still not an argument, go eat and spew some more shit. Or are you implying compilers can optimise as well as an elite team of intel engineers (which clear linux has)? Retard
Aiden Mitchell
Nothing. I can see a cloverOS type gentoo based distro with packages compiled with -march=znver1.
Bentley Perry
What's the point?!! Gentoo is to squeeze max performance out of deprecated CPUs (which 90% users fail to achieve).
Eli Jones
Yeah, let me know how that goes when Intel bleeds itself dry.
Wyatt Foster
Wtf even is "unoptimized amd"
Nicholas Nelson
Code that is not optimised for AMD.
Josiah Gomez
>Still not an argument No, you're just not capable of knowing just how dumb you are yet. >Or are you implying compilers can optimise as well as an elite team of intel engineers (which clear linux has)? More proof on just how little you know. >Retard Go on user. You're on a roll.
Kevin Torres
You're incapable of refuting me. As it is, you've said 0 technical terms and have not proven any competence. Therefore, I am objectively better educated than you on this topic (since you cannot refute me). Feels good basically owning spergs online.
Owen Cook
Because when i think about optimizing a distro for a particular microarchitecture, gentoo is the first thing that comes to mind short of creating an entire new distro. And i think gentoo with a cloverOS style automated setup and precompiled packages is the easiest way to create a ryzen-optimized distro.
Luke Taylor
I meant, modern processors are plenty powerful for desktop use. How do you do a generalised automatic PGO and LTO for packages?
Wyatt Adams
Programs that are explicitly compiled with an intel microarchitecture in mind, say -march=sandybridge. Optimized amd would be the same with an amd microarchitecture, like -march=znver1 for zen.
Camden Collins
Never happening, US has enough goy money to keep them alive forever, it would be antisemite to do otherwise
Logan Roberts
Cloveros is a shit distro though. Fvwm, and text based programs a la luke smith minimalism. Shit is unusable garbage.
William Taylor
Just have a repo hosting packages compiled with -Ofast and -march=znver1.
Hudson Morris
I don't think that automatically does PGO and LTO.
Christian Moore
The installer lets you choose from a bunch of WMs and DEs. And text-based installers can be just as intuitive as GUI ones, just look at ArchLabs. CloverOS also installs extremely quickly. It's obviously not as polished as mainstream distros, but it does what it needs to do, which is providing Gentoo to people who can't be bothered to go through the install process, like Antergos and ArchLabs do for Arch.
Parker Perry
Add --enable-optimizations and that should do the trick.
Angel Bailey
Is that not just for python code?
Ian Parker
ClearOS is significantly fastrr than even Gentoo
Noah Johnson
It is. For GCC, i guess using -fprofile-generate and then compiling with -fprofile-use does PGO.
Christian Lopez
show some benchmarks then faggot
Jace Morgan
It IS Gentoo, only with packages compiled with aggressive CFLAGS.
Jackson Gonzalez
There are many benchmarks demonstrating this fact. Any Linux is about the same as any other Linux except for the things that make it different and in this case the specific optimizations make Clear significantly faster. Nothing to be ashamed of or to hate on, the other distros need to learn. It's all in the open so everybody can be fast.
My bad, i read CloverOS when you wrote Clear. My reply was about CloverOS.
Adrian Reed
nixos while honestly has the pros to defeat all those distros will always have the con of being extremely hard for brainlets to grasp or to normify It will always stay a fringe distro It is quite literally the emacs of distros
Connor Powell
Amd distributions already exist
Tyler Reed
I'm looking for one for my ryzen desktop. Do you have a suggestion?
Jacob Rogers
openmandriva has a precompiled znver1 imagine but it used clang instead of gcc
Robert Gomez
NixOs is absolute garbage, try doing something that is not defined in their shitty config file , protip you can't. It brings nothing for desktop user, might be good if you have to manage multiple workstation in a work/uni environment but that's about it
Jonathan Evans
The config file is the whole point of fucking nixos, it's what allows portability, stability and massive extendability If i wanted to install shit sudo make install id be on gentoo or arch. If you're not willing to accept the change than don't expect any advantages. It's like using arch but then installing dpkg on it...why? that's just dumb. The nix langauuge allows you to do anything you might want so it's no limitation if you bother understanding it. You just proved my point that brainlets can't adopt it because they can't bother with learning new stuff or changing their stone brains.
David Ross
No.
What FANGS are using is the Linux
and it is Ubuntu.
/thread.
Camden Peterson
Like I said all your points are completely useless for a desktop user, why would I waste hours learning your shitty config for no benefit at all. Go shill your shit somewhere else, NixOs and guild both autistic pointless garbage
Benjamin Morgan
>guild >Stability and extendability are useless for desktop ok bud I'll leave you to whatever baby toy you use
>>guild GuixSD if it wasn't obvious enough retard >>Stability and extendability are useless for desktop it's just another repackaging of the same gnu and other open sores software, stability has mostly nothing to do with the distro and what is even extendability supposed to mean, like I said I don't need to re-install the same config on multiple machines so all your complicated global config is 100% useless autistic trash
Clear Linux' cpu baseline requirements are: lahf/sahf/64bit cpu ssse3 sse4.1 sse4.2 aes (f)cmov pclmul(dqd) cx16 (cmpxchg16b)
Which is nice. But not enough. How about avx2, lzcnt, popcnt, movbe? I'm too lazy to do this myself with Linux from Scratch. Also Clear LInux is optimized only for Intel. meh.
The repository is bare though. A normie friendly fork will get big, that's my call. Clear Linux will be the Debian to an in established 'clear Linux ubuntu'
David Bell
>Feels good basically owning spergs online. Kek. Being this brain-dead.
Kevin Taylor
GNU Mint for normies Clear GNU for dedicated devices/developers Pop!GNU for everyone else You don't really need anything more.
