Why do programmers think so highly of themselves?

Why do programmers think so highly of themselves?

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>can type 140 WPM with 100 percent accuracy
TechLead is a god

every one of them is a fucking overconfident asshole that will kill people the moment they're put in charge of a project that actually has peoples lives on line.

i've no idea why they're like that but it's a part of why they are definitely not an engineering discipline.

read Fountainhead, this isn't high in comparison

honestly very impressive.

After enough time working as a dev, you start to realize you're actually an artisan

btw fuck Joma he's such a fag. He clickbaits so much and doesn't bring knowledge or wisdom to the table.

Also, Jarvis was based until he decided to throw his initial community under the bus... It really sucks because he made really nice content before, and now it's just skits and shitting on popular channels. It's sad to see 12 year olds post comments under his videos now...

We can do things you can't.
Like move out of mom's basement.
Hold a job.
Not shit our pants when we have to talk to people.
List goes on.

1) three monitors
2) mech keyboard, at least 100 wpm
3) programming socks
4) participating on Jow Forumsprogramming subreddit
5) C++ exclusively
6) using LinuxOS
7) loli background

They literally built the modern world. I'd say they have something to be proud of.

>watching techlead
>watching some half decent dev play god on youtube to a bunch of mediocre brainleets
Imagine suckling the teet of youtube's algorithm this hard. Good goys, turn your brains into mush.

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>Fountainhead
Ayn Rand makes more sense if you put her into context. She grew up coming out of Soviet Russia. She was opposed to Soviet ideology and pushed against it.

>implying I've actually watch the video before commenting here
lol get real

Survivor bias. You need an ego to get past the difficult puzzles you have to solve when learning to program. Something like 90+% of people who try to learn programming basically fail.

That makes you merely an efficient code monkey. I spend most of my time thinking about code. The time I spend writing code is like 1/4.

on the other hand.. dunno what's up with non-software engineers often seen as trying to get programming jobs. failed your class and grades?

dunno why but lots of engineering ex-students keep pretending they know programming and think even higher of themselves. they try to "school" colleague programmers with dumbest, most opinionated horrible practices with arguments like "I don't understand this and if I don't and i've studied engineering, this labguage's keyword should NEVER be used because i know better than the language architect & designer" way too often. please read or gtfo retard.

I'm not sure why should this bring more sense into something that already makes sense without context

Started out making actual guides. Now believe he can give general life advice.

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My grandpa is a programmer that had six kids that all have their own families and have financial stability. My uncle is a programmer that had 3 kids, two have families so far, and he bought houses for all three of them.
I'd say both those people have a reason to think highly of themselves.
The people I know that have succeeded with programming have seen it as a way to break out of poverty: you need no tools, resources, or skills beyond being able to read and type, retain information and solve problems. If you come from a foreign country with no money and make it as a programmer in the US you have a damn good reason to think highly of yourself.

>you need no tools, resources
God I hate rich kids who think they have the world figured out because they had everything handed to them

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so she started out talking about one thing she didn't know as a way to teach herself and then started talking about another thing as a way to teach herself. its pretty common practice

Polluting the planet with your offspring is not an achievement unto itself.

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my family is from ex-yugoslavian countries, not rich at all. I don't have the world figured out, but my relatives and their friends that came here had basically nothing. You use what you have.

Nice projecting

usually when an argument turns philosophical is when it devolves. the question was why programmers think highly of themselves. many people are proud to have their own house, healthy children, and money, many programmers achieve these things and therefore think highly of themselves, especially if they came from a worse-off family. Especially up until recently, being a programmer was a very good shot at being financially stable.

>shit up own argument by prefixing it with pseudo-philosophical trite

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As a group yes, but the fresh out of college (or worse: bootcamp) have no right to be arrogant. They certainly were not the ones who "built the modern world". In fact it is a symptom of their arrogance that they would take credit for something they themselves would not achieve under the flimsy excuse of group membership.

>be code monkey
>be loyal to company working 12 hour days for some reason
>be let go
>cry about it
I feel like this is a decent amount of programming YouTubers.

This is true. The reason is that they think their computational knowledge eliminates the need for domain specific knowledge, particularly in fields like medicine. Truth is a lot of doctors and experts aren't friendly towards programmers because of some fear that AI will replace them. It's because the arrogrant douches refuse to listen and actively degrade others' work and knowledge since they care only that their precious #kode looks impressive to other equally arrogant programmers, never mind if it does not translate into reality.

The way to fix this is to somehow get people to see programming as a tool, a means to an end, not something to be pursued for its own sake. But a cull of the industry wouldn't hurt either: what I wouldn't give to see some of those brogrammer faggots being forced to literally take their own medicine.

he has a video talking about quiting your job but it sounds like he was fired

his most popular video is the only 1 worth watching. the others are stretched out to 10min to get that ad revenue but nothing that couldnt be summed up in 2 sentences each.

Do he use linuk doe?

Quality cope.

Then don't do that. There's plenty of pajeets happy to be slaves. Let them do it.

>bootcamp
I've worked with programmers who came from intensive bootcamps. They're not bad at all. If anything some of the biggest brainlets I know have bachelors/masters in CS. Outliers perhaps but still, you can't rule out bootcamps completely.

I hate them all, particularly the "lol so #nerdy" ones whose entire identity revolves around programming. They don't all act like typical soifaggots but the mentality is there whether or not their soilent mouth is open.

seething

It's passionless training vs people who set out to make it. I've worked a masters holder who sent me 'localhost' and insist it's what I should connect to.

I don't think super highly of myself but after 20+ years of doing this, I do have some amount of confidence in my abilities.
I've been making YouTube programming content lately, but aiming to be the complete opposite of this kinda zoomerbait.
>no jumpcuts (or editing at all basically)
>80% of content is actual programming
>20% of content is advice/mindset/reflection stuff
>try to talk about fuckups and what I learned from it etc
I will probably never have thousands of viewers but I think it's a nice niche and I'm always looking for similar content to watch myself.

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It's really not that useful since typing out the code isn't the long part.

Did I mention that I used to work for google.

>hey guys THE techlead here "opens a can of cheap coffee" this coffee is very bad today i'm going to give you some advices because i worked at google which means i'm smarter and better than you also i'm the techlead the biggest chad *sips some the cheap coffee" trash talks joma

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What's your channel user?

I don't

Jealous white incel

This douchebag has a matrix wallpaper and he looks like his mother beat him several times throughout his life.

Techniggers are annoying, fucking insectoids.

White incel cope

Because they are basically behind everything in our lives now.

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Because they have low testosterone , they have a small penis and don't actually do anything all day other than daydreaming about cuckporn and marvel comics.

Do you also dream in code?

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People die every day. Do you have a cause ?

>programmers built the modern world
I have no suitable reaction image to discern how laughable is this statement.

based serenity user

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Good electrical engineers and craftsmen is important too, so you don't shit like this.

the "modern" world(the actual useful part of it) still run on 50 years old fortran code writed by some actually intelligent math or physic major. modern programmers are like toddlers who cant figure whats going on under the java wm even if their life depend on it.

>java wm

>Matrix screensaver
Fucking dropped!

Can't sustain it for longer than 30 seconds so who gives a fuck?

I enjoyed one of your videos, user. Will check out more later, it's nice to see something devoid of bullshit.

tripcode is the only youtube gal for me

dat bulge

I'm really happy to hear that, user! Thanks for checking it out :)

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what's joma

i dream of penises but those dreams are bad

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Are you retarded

coz they're faggots.

They don't know how incredibly easy their job is, and that any member of the public could do it with a few weeks training.

is it a good book?

all good style

except socks

>that any member of the public could do it with a few weeks training.
So all those McDonalds workers and janitors prefer being poor? makes perfect sense.

do people actually click these videos? I thought Jow Forums would be the last place to actually click these videos,

>I'd say both those people have a reason to think highly of themselves.
You're retarded then.
Being a slave to biology is nothing to be proud of.

We?

i like stefan mischook's vids, he's pretty cool and inspired me to retake the computer science courses i failed at uni

Wait, are his videos not 50% satire? Why's everyone mad ITT are you all faggots?

they are obviously targeting children and brainlets. maybe you don't click on them, but i'm sure we have many friends here who do

Because you can take the role wherever you want.

I work from home 3-4 days a week every week, I could have gone for working every single day at home but I don't like being completely disconnected from my team members. Soon enough I want to transition into contracting, so I can work half a year and travel the other half.

It gives me so much flexibility with my life that I'm not sure I could find anywhere else.

At the risk of sounding like a total fucking fag, I don't "dream" in code, but I sometimes code in my dreams, or I'll see code in my dreams. This usually happens when I've been programming for 9-10 hours a day for more than a week. I take it as a sign, that I am being extremely productive. This doesn't happen often, like once in 2 months.

You don't sound like a fag, you sound like a normal person who does a lot of programming.

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I don't really know. It's good and well written for sure. But I haven't found any new thoughts and realizations in it.

>make a shit posting yt channel where you act like an authority figure to brainlets and teenagers
>merely having a job is enough credentials to act like a God to these people
>get paid big ad bucks

Seems like a pretty good scenario. People are just mad they didnt do it themselves

Subscribed.

I liked Jarvis, sad hes just a DG commentary clone now

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>still giving this clickbaiting conman views

That's pretty normal, the brain will 'defragment' and consolidate your memories/knowledge during your sleep by making you relive the situations that produced them. Also another reason why sleep is so fundamental.

it is even if you disagree entirely with it by the end.

I bet it took lot of tries to record it on camera

you get fed up with everyone's bullshit and you just stop giving a fuck or switch careers. case in point, this thread.

you cannot look at the three monitors at the same time hell even on two it is fucking useless

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this was pretty interesting user thanks

stop replying to everyone you fucking retard. this should be an instaban

This, just an easy way to get attention and the sweet Jow Forums (You)s

if you were an exgoogle techlead you would understand

I am a programmer and hate being associated with other programmers. I used to simply say I am an "analyst" but the term is being taken by the even worse data soientist fags.

People are scared of computers for no reason.

because his job is pure mental, writing weird symbols and obscure commands in a screen. I have seen spectacular fails produced by "highly effective" programmers.

Perhaps it's because Jow Forums, but people seem to be missing the fact programmers it's not exciting and the pay isn't great but it's better than stacking boxes in a Amazon/Wal-mart warehouse, with no money and thinking nonstop about unemployment.

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Lol, I started watching him when he first started. He's a cool person, though. Would drink beers with.

Because we rule the world. Everything relies on software now.

I dream about lolis in kneesocks.

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