/fwt/ - Friendly Windows Thread

but virtualbox runs on the JVM doesn't that make it not FLOSS?

hey anons, I want to know every possible difference between windows 7 Professional edition and ultimate edition
I'm considering using professional 64-bit since it would be less bloated, but I need to know if there's anything I could possibly miss out on
so far the interesting features on this chart that concern me are virtual hard drive booting, multilingual user interface packages and switching between languages as well as subsystem for unix-based applications
what are all these things?
I'm going to play some thing that requires my system locale to japanese so if professional can't do that then that matter is settled and there's no point in researching further
what is virtual hard drive booting? I've never done it but I want to know if it's a useless feature with a misleading name or something important
and subsystem for unix-based applications is used for what?
is there anything else that isn't mentioned on wikipedia?

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Just the fact it is being compiled to run on windows is making it not floss
You NEED proprietary compilers to run things on windows. Thats why GNU doesn't compile things like Icecat on windows, people will do it themselves.
By your definition nothing is floss on windows

you could have just said no

okay....no

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How do you sleep at night?

By chugging cum from his vista mug

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KILL microsoft Office and use Wordpad

Don't install anything past 7.

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how do i upgrade from windows 8 to windows vista?

god I want a sip

Someone recommend me an e-book and pdf/djvu reading programme.

Calibre.

>You NEED proprietary compilers to run things on windows
not really, there is llvm/clang

good premiere pro torrent bros?

Any non-complicated video editors out there for simple shit?

sumantra

I hated XP's fisher price design and windows longhorn/vista and 7's theme design too. They should've kept the classic theme and update it to the modern times simple design theme but a powerhouse underneath . But I guess windows is not a hot item anymore if they aren't selling it successfully.

>2020
>Old Windose
>Getting owned online by no support™
Install GNU/Linux

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Think of the VHD booting as booting another OS from a VM, but without requiring a parent operating system to run the VM on. It's sort of like dual booting, you'll be able to choose to boot on another OS from the UEFI/BIOS menu. Multilingual user interface/switching between languages is the fact that you can download language packages from Windows Update and switch your system's language to another. And yes, you can play VNs with this. You can change things like time format to those used by another country (Britain vs Japan for example) without those language packages. The Unix subsystem is basically a UNIX shell that contains a good amount of common GNU utilities and other UNIX programs and it mostly helps with porting applications around.
Keep in mind though that Ultimate support ends in January so you'll have to use common sense to avoid getting infected after that. Professional can be upgraded to Enterprise IIRC and security patches for it will be released until 2023 (although those patches might be eventually ported to all versions by people).

Reasking from What am I supposed to do if Windows 10 says I have over 100GB of System files? I checked the size of the C:\Windows folder and it's under 30GB. Is it just an error? Is there a way to find out what it's counting?
I also checked (as TrustedInstaller) the size of the "System Volume Information" folder and it's not even 100MB. So what the fuck is taking up so much space?
I already checked Windows.old and system restore. Nothing there. Nothing in the shadow volume either.

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windows movie maker

windows folder size is incorrect. try with WinDirStat. it can also be incorrect since there could be hard links, but it's much closer to real value

This seems like a good place to say that I unironically like Windows Vista. Granted a shit launch, and a rough few years to follow with drivers failing to catch up, but the late versions really matured and offered an experience very close to XP but with the ability to utilize much more advanced hardware. Hell it even let you use the XP start menu, so imo the classic theme in Vista > classic theme in 7.

Windirstat should be replace with Wiztree in the infograph which is far faster (basically instant even on HD)

it doesn't support shared folders and stuff though, probably hardlink support is weird too. Windirstat dev said that he doesn't want to do MFT parsing because these reasons, he wants to stay at the safer windows apis, which is pretty understandable imo

wiztree is also non-free 'freeware' afaict

If I'd really care about that I wouldn't use Windows :^)
it makes sense

I'm only just now realizing that the boomer edit is ontop of a brainlet wojak

Im planning to do a fresh install of win10 on my laptop but should i activate it ? Everything seem to work fine out of box

yes. you'll soon get the text in lower right corner

WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF I RESTORED WINDOWS 7 FROM RECOVERY DISCS???

I updated my Win 7 laptop to 10 around the time they offered it for free. Sometime in 2016?
Anyway, of course I've hated it all this time
>all this fucking app interface shit
>not being in control of updates
>uglier
>increased spying
but I told myself that it was the right move because 7 support would stop in 2020 and if I hesitated back then but later decided to update to 10, I would have to pay for it, so better to jump while it was free.

But I'm honestly thinking of going back to 7. It was so much comfier. I think if I browse safely and use common sense, which I already so, I should be fine.

What would happen if I used the recovery CDs I made when I first got the computer to restore it to factory state? As in, it would be Win 7, but I already updated the licence to 10, so what would happen if I installed 7 again on this hardware?
And is there a comprehensive list of which updates not to install? And is it possible to avoid those ones?
Is it possible to pull this off??

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just make a fresh install disc
pastebin.com/1BBB3Kif

if you have any questions just ask

so I bought one of those refurb dells and removed the hard drive to have a cheap copy of win10 + hardware to fuck around with. the hard drive work ed fine in another computer. this thing isnt going to refuse to work at some point, right?

Where did you get this?
was it at a press event?
i really want one its a cool mug

Question: When using the W10UI updater/cleanup script, is the CMD window supposed to disappear? I have no sense of if it is working or not, how much progress remains, idk. Someone who has used it successfully before, what did it do after you hit start?

nevermind, figured it out

thanks now i want a mug despite having a closet full of them

Does anyone have that site that tells you what security features to shut off on windows 10? Or is that just covered in the debloat

OP forgot to add LTSC.

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i just can't bring myself to trust a windows ISO floating around on the internet
that just screams shady to me
it might not be
but i can't take that risk
i run my biz on my computer
do online banking
and internet shopping for family

that's why i was thinking of using the recovery discs to reset it to factory state

But tell me, what happens if my Win 7 licence has become a Win 10 licence in the meantime, and then I reinstall 7 on the same hardware?

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Windirstat says the Windows folder is about the same as explorer and powershell scripts. The difference isn't nearly significant enough to explain the 100+GB.
My issue is that Windows 10 doesn't provide a breakdown of "System Files," so I can't know if it's legitimately counting something outside the C:\Windows directory. The only option I see is counting everything that's not a system file and subtracting it from the total disk usage, but that seems pretty ridiculous.

Any one know shit about apache / WAMPhere?

I finally saved up enough and got a monitor. I am ready to install Windows 7 Ultimate onto my retro Win7 time machine build tomorrow. However, the hard drive is a nvme drive and I got a modern case without bays for my retail Windows 7 DVD. What steps are needed to get the OS working? I do not intend for the system to be connected online past activation and some updates, but which updates should be installed (I hope to avoid the ones listed on the last OP link)?

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not him, but the license is already on the hardware. also, while I understand to be wary of links on Internet, this thread is made out of curated Windows software. Nothing to worry about.

worst comes to worst you can always download the 8.1 ISO from Microsoft's website.
Then there's a little tweak you can do. You place an ei.cfg file somewhere in the installation USB after you create it with rufus, you have to write like four lines or something, and then it lets you install 8.1 without a hitch.
The only downside there is is that on boot it'll pester you with a PLEASE TO BE ACTIVATING WINDOWS screen but you can easily close it.

But will the licence work? Or will they say
>Sorry, that licence is a Win 10 licence now, you can't use it for 7 any more
and constantly nag me and not let me change my wallpaper etc?

thanks, but I don't want any of the tablet/appshit interfaces any more. It's so horrible. Having the old system (Control Panel etc) and the new appshit Settings side-by-side is so fucking bizarre.

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might as well be the case.
the metro ui is zoomer tablet/phone tier

I mean, I don't care about the UI. If there's a way to interact directly with the Storage Service in powershell, I would use it. But I suspect I should listen to the warning; other people I've found from googling found giant buggy log files, but if I have one obviously it's not in the Windows folder.

check against sha1.rg-adguard.net
there is no known instance of them changing any hashes. also, out of 3 million file hashes they have its unlikely its your one thats fake

You can have an exact replica of the W7 start menu and can entirely bypass the tablet UI if you use classic shell.
Also W8 still has the old control panel, no new settings shit. I think you only have to dabble in the weird fullscreen settings if you want to change the lockscreen picture which you can't do if you don't activate the computer anyways.

I got it yesterday for $2 at a flea market. Idk originally where these came from, but I had to buy it.

i wonder if anyone has the box for windows "mojave"

>We ran into a problem while connecting to the Windows Update service. We'll try to connect again later, or you can select Retry now.
They must have started running Windows update on Windows servers instead of Linux ones.

what win ver? fresh 7 and 8.1 installs need a manual update because old win update is incompatible with current server

Windows 10 1903.
askwoody.com/forums/topic/windows-update-error-win10-1903/
>what win ver? fresh 7 and 8.1 installs need a manual update because old win update is incompatible with current server
Really? That's retarded. I knew 7 would update super slowly if you don't manually update some servicing stuff, but not updating at all is just retarded. I wouldn't have this problem updating from a super old version of debian.

How do I upgrade from Windows 7 Ultimate to Windows 10 Pro without paying $199.99? I bought a W10 Pro key on ebay for $5.99 and it worked for a little while, but about 4 months later Windows deactivated itself and said my key is not valid.

use Debian with Mate

how are the matters with ReFS in 2019 compared to NTFS? would there be any reason to format an internal hdd as ReFS rather than NTFS? not a system drive, but just media storage, hoarding bluray rips, music in flac etc, perhaps also installing and running software and gaymes off it
should I just stick to NTFS instead?

Will Microsoft ever fix font rendering and modernize it? I've literally switched to Hackintosh because my eyes couldn't handle the terrible rendering.

call MS support and act like a boomer

NTFS on an SSD for your system partition. ZFS on a network share for mass storage. Don't let NTFS or ReFS touch your spinning disks.

ok linux shills what distro is REALLY worth of using?

I won't use kanto
or moronjiaro
or meme arch with meme installation methods
zorin is shit, deepin is shit [tested on my machine, literally zorin is lagging the hell out and deepin is freezing apps GUI]

I have my eye on pop os, mint, are they solid?

you can use kms key or simply make kms server on your smartphone [but remove it later] via kiss kms apk

I've tried pop os but ended up switching to ubuntu budgie.
Pop os has ubuntu 18.10 and may lead to some compability issues.

I had this I guess, windows is creating temp files over and over, just remove ee... or the files via windirstat or I don't know what... it happens if you use moded windows

It's done, it's over. Windows 10 LTSC Optimized, checking it. Shit's comfy. Much gratitude to the people putting effort into this.

I'm not using modded Windows, just the normal Windows 10 Pro 1903 straight from Microsoft. Configured with the optional features wizard, not with third party software. I've found no giant temp files in the Windows dir or anywhere else.
I did find an 8GB virtual hard disk for sandboxing, but it's empty so it doesn't take up any space and even if it did that wouldn't come close to explaining 100s of GB.

maybe try check disc for junks or something and see what will pop up

link ;_;

>maybe try check disc for junks or something
What exactly do you mean?

>link ;_;
read the guide in the OP. it's not a complicated procedure.

use system cleaner or ccleaner to SEARCH for files, because I have absolutely no idea how your 100gb could simply gone if that's not temp or disc problem

I did. They both found nothing of any substance. I'm asking in the hope that someone who's actually familiar with how the disk usage is calculator or familiar with the errors can point me in the right direction.
Generic advice like run windirstat or ccleaner or windows' disk cleaner isn't going to be helpful considering I specified in the original post that I went much farther by scanning files I didn't have permission to view as TrustedInstaller. q

just use hwidgen, it works by faking an update from older os to win10

well, you can try wiztree since it reads the raw MFT. if that doesn't show anything either, just ignore windows retardation

based master chief pape

sorry for the late reply user I had to wageslave for 8 hours
you can verify they're safe by checksums
wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Windows_7#SHA1_Checksums
use 7zip to check them and compare them
it's good that you automatically had that response though

That start menu: is that included with LTSC or did you add that?

no
i didn't "forget"
no
it's openshell

Thank you!

Hello Jow Forumsunts!
I remmeber reading around here that out there is a toll that can help you remove even more of the bloat of windows and that toll modifies the iso file.
So anyone got a link ?
Some ppl were claiming that with the help of that thing windows would use only around 0.7 gb of system memory.

>wiztree
Thanks for the suggestion, the other(?) user who suggested it wasn't kidding when he said it was fast. It even detected that I deleted a file from explorer, amazing.
No luck so I guess I should just turn off the Storage service so Windows doesn't follow hardlinks in circles or hurt itself in its confusion or whatever the fuck it's doing.

rate all versions of windows on asthetics
for me its 9x/NT>XP>vista>7>>>>>>.1>10

I'm running into a weird, intermittent problem right now after upgrading to Windows 10 1903.
Basically, Windows will be stuck at a solid blue screen after unlocking my account. I can press ctrl-alt-delete and start a task manager (UAC prompt works but the task manager isn't visible). I can also switch accounts. I created a second account in anticipation of running into the issue again.
I ran into the issue now, so I switched to the new account. It set itself up fine in a minute (although I can't type in the start menu for some reason). I have administrator access and can do whatever I want, so what the hell am I supposed to do to let myself log in to my main account? I tried killing dwm since there was a fault in the event viewer, it restarted itself fine but still just a blue screen when I change to the main account.

Nevermind, I killed explorer.exe and can now log in. Does anyone know if there's some sort of way I can add a tty (like in linux) to Windows or add an entry to the CTRL-ALT-DELETE menu that restarts explorer or something? Because this is ridiculous, Windows just doesn't give you the tools to recover from a bug.

Do you know if there are any precaution I should take before dualbooting on say Ubuntu on a machine that came with a Windows 10?
I've been authorised to install Ubuntu on my Windows 10 machine at work, but I haven't done a dualboot install in like a decade.