Tech communism

>believes in free market capitalism
>literally choosing communist OS
Is tech special somehow? I can't believe that the best OS is actually communist, the 2nd is anarchy (BSD), 3rd is dictatorship (OS X) and last is capitalist (MS). I know communism is a failure IRL but why does it do well in tech?

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>microsoft
>capitalist

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Because it's not communism. Or rather, it's all voluntary. Communism can potentially exist in a free society, but capitalism isn't allowed to exist within communist societies. Remember that Capitalism is just an emergent property of freedom.

It's actually selective socialism. No socialism for the common man, just for the big guys that end up benefitting from govt tyranny.

software doesn't follow the law of scarcity so it's not communism

OP here. Neither does snapchat premium. Unlimited supply and demand seems to be unlimited too. What gives?

price of linux, OS X, BSD and Win???

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Access is scarce. The actual 1s and 0s, are not. Think of it as guarding the entrance to a well of infinite water. Not the same user btw.

You seem to think capitalism is only about prices. It's not. Linux is capitalist because its a free trade/gift between two parties, the same way charity is capitalist. No one is forcing you to pay for charity, right?

i wanna fug jahy

I'm more talking about the community is set up. I know that it's free to download or install everything but I'm more talking about why it works for code and not other things. Is our worldwide sciences somewhat socialist as well? I'm a die hard free market capitalist, but would a socialist system work for high IQ people better?

Free trade is capitalism. It works because it is voluntary and is subject to market forces. Socialism never works, even if it's only for high IQ people, because no one brain can account for all the decisions we as individuals make constantly. Central planning is objectively worse than free market systems for any society that has ever exosted.

Gods that image is so cute!

Communism doesn't work in tech.
North korea has a distro that has the least privacy of all operating systems.

ugly cat

maybe we could have a form of communism in which all property is owned by the state but there is no central panning but rather voluntary work... man

You're not forced to participate on linux, if anything, you're judged before being allowed to contribute, so it's a bit of a anti-communism.

Socialism does not imply a centrally planned economy.

How do you make socialism without a central planned economy?

see

>no one brain can account for all the decisions we as individuals make constantly
but computers can

It does imply some form of central planning, though. Otherwise it isn't socialism.
What is the role of the state in that type of society then?

A communist society would be, by definition, stateless.
Local planning or market socialism.

the role of the state would be to redistribute and manage public property.
Like the assigning of housing for example.

what about when all the property has been assigned then what does the state do

(a) dissolve -> anarchy
(b) remain to protect the property -> police state

Central planning does not imply failure.

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Not even computers/General Intelligences, because you'd have to have near perfect knowledge of all variables. Without market forces dictating prices dynamically there is no way to determine value. Regardless, even if some form of utilitarian master AI was developed, you'd have to explain what gives you the right to subject me to its will in the first place.
How does the state determine value? Clearly you need some form of value system to distribute property, so how does it work in this case? I know it's not the main point, just pointing it out for you to think about.

read

Central planning is inherently irrational because it cannot determine value on it's own. How do you deal with this issue?

read the book you philistine

It should be pretty easy to answer the question. How do you deal with the economic calculation problem? If it's too long to post, what page is it on? If you can answer that I'll read the book, I have an open mind.

How do it deal with greedy people?
Capitalism is a system MADE to deal with em, yet they still end wrecking the system in the end.

You mean state capitalism, which isn't capitalism. There is no single fully capitalist state in history, there has always been some form of mixed economy. This includes intellectual property laws, they have sinc inception obstructed capitalism.

please read the damn book, it's really not that long and it answers your questions. skip to page 48 if you must. it goes into a system of economic calculation using digital labour-time vouchers and linear programming to set plan targets.

I'll read it then.

arguing for something you admit doesnt exist? checkmate atheists

dumb avatarfag

because communism is the future

shut the fuck up and post more Jahy

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Even if "imperfect", the base is still there, a bunch of people fighting each other for power economically, instead of just killing all their opponents and eventually raising a kingdom, like generally happens in countries that try anything but capitalism.

OP the fag here. But people don't make the best decisions themselves either. I am interested in economics and reading about that stuff, we already think the world is better with google don't we? I don't understand why communism "just werks" online but not IRL. Machine learning might help us with making better decisions, the same way that driverless cars would be better than the free chaotic cars we have now. I think it can be done. but its probably too hard to so we man never be able to do that. and to make a decision for everyone is morally irresponsible because I can't tell what everyone else wants. But don't you see how its possible? What if its within grasp? I guess thats what happens, some socialist thinks they can do it and fails again, lol but I kinda hope one gets it right by using computers.

>muh algos
bk2rdit

> the ability to modify and adapt your tools and augment them is communist
It's is not. Just a workaround for the idea that software even should fall under copyright.

Anarchism and communism are the same thing, bucko. Anarchism is just one path to communism, unlike say, Leninism, which was the USSR's path to communism.

And the reason why it works better in tech is because it is better. When everyone has the leisure that the capitalist class has and is not de-facto enslaved to wage labor 9-5, they pursue their passions and contribute voluntarily.

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>Capitalism is just an emergent property of freedom.
It gets me so hard when people get this right, we need more of you in the world

GNU is just another form of contractual relationships, gommys GTFO.