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NAS is how most people get into this. It’s nice have a /comfy/ home for all your data. Streaming your movies/shows around the house and to friends is good feels. Re-purpose an old desktop, buy a SBC, or go with cheap used enterprise gear.

/hsg/ is about learning and expanding your horizons. Know all about NAS? Learn virtualization. Spun up some VMs? Learn about networking by standing up a pfsense box and configuring some VLANs. There's always more to learn and chances to grow. Think you’re god-tier already? Setup OpenStack and report back.

>What software should I run?
Install Gentoo. Or whatever flavor of *nix is best for the job or most comfy for you. Jellyfin to replace Netflix, nextcloud to replace googlel, ampache to replace spotify, the list goes on and on. Look at the awesome self-hosted list and ask.

>Datahoarding OK here?
YES - you are in good company. Shuck those easystores and flash IT mode on your H310. All datahoarding talk welcome.

>Do I need a rack and all that noisy enterprise gear?
No. An old laptop or rpi can be a server if you want.

>The /hsg/ wiki is up!
hsg.shortlink.club/

>Links
Server tips: pastebin.com/SXuHp12J
github.com/Kickball/awesome-selfhosted
old.reddit.com/r/datahoarder
labgopher.com
reddit.com/r/homelab/wiki/index
wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/Features

>Chat
irc.rizon.net #_hsg_
riot.im/app/#/room/#homeservergeneral:matrix.org
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Let's see your setups and discuss what you do with them

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hsg wiki https cert is still expired

That's because the tard who's running the server hasn't heard of certbot, since he knows nothing about true servers that serve more than network drives..

Nevermind I'm retarded, I wish he setup the letsencrypt bot

That setup looks surprisingly comfy

my little homeserver is still going strong. (mostly code hosting - no media, media = ZOG)

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>tfw killed the server motherboard when changing PSUs

and I just bought 2 WD reds 4TB expansion drives. Now I'm hosting everything on my gayming rig, just to scratch the homelab itch.

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is there a way to get gbit ethernet over gpio on an raspberry pi 3?

That big dick storage

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Nope.

>2013
impressive.

Is it OK to ask for advice here?

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start by reading the OP

Is it worth it to cuck myself in ITX mobo with 6 sata on a node 304? or go full chad atx?

I did, I'm not sure about the kind of hardware though.
Basically NAS about 1TB insome sort of redundancy, E-mail server, Owncloud for 10 users max.
Maybe small web server for less than 1000 people.

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How do you get wireless speeds fast enough? I tried to setup an NFS server and it somewhat worked but I couldn't use it for streaming and the integration sucked. Would sshfs work better?

Rate my Cheapo NAS

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Seagate 3 TB expansion attached to Odroid N2. My NAS at home.

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Holy crackers.

>carpet
Holy fucking crackers.

>Not using filtered intake
>Server chassis have air intake underneath the case
What's the problem here?

The color.

I'm planning to put together my OMV + SnapRAID build this weekend. 2×4tb and a 2tb hdd gives me 6tb with parity so that should be good to start, I reckon. I'm hoping that the 2200G has a low enough power draw to do well always on.

Piece meal server reporting in. It runs windows 7 because I just don't have it in me to make the full time *njx switch. OS level Mirror arrays, fire and forget backups, and unparalleled remote desktop for headless use all out of the box.

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As somebody who loves nucs that image gives me a hard on.

if you have the room go ATX. makes many things easier. adding new drives is just well adding a new drive. with ITX it's always "where do I put this now?"
also you might want to add some PCIE expansion cards in the future

Umh, hi.

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you don't. wireless is shit and only usable for light devices like phones or notebooks to stream media. everything else that needs fast data transfer and low latency ... cables.

have one of those micro hp servers myself (old one from 2012 or so). dropped it when I moved to a new appartment. still works - but has a dent in it :)

How does this card compare to second-hand LSI/Dell PERC cards from ebay? They are the same thing right? (2 SAS ports which translates into 8 SATA ports)? I just want more hard drive connectors without any hardware meme raid shit since I do my redundancy via software

can't post link because Jow Forums hates norwegian TLD domains

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I have a X58, low power Xeon and Z97, i3 ATX boards with 4x4GB RAM, would the old Xeon be better for NAS usage even if it doesn't support stuff like AVX? What's also a good case that has front removable drive trays that can fit ATX boards?

Depends on what chipset it is and what kind of bandwidth it actually supports. You can also get shit like PERCs for very cheap and can flash them to remove all the hardware RAID shit. I got a PERC for my server since I couldn't find any cheapo HBA which didn't have reports of fuckups with Linux.

I was able to play minecraft on Ubuntu back in 2010 with my GT 9600, it literally just worked and had a GUI launcher.

server management

Servernoob here, got some questions
A) whats the best os for a pre-sse3 pentium with 256mb of ram? Gentoo, debian stable, and any variation of those 2 are out of the question, they dont boot, tried genode, didnt boot, crux and open bsd managed to boot but i still cant grasp them as a windowslet (any comfy source for that pretty pls?)
B) how can i host my own imageboard? Want to get a grasp at that but cant find any source, asked /wdg/ but noone answered
C) can anyone recc me some comfy low spec games to host? Im working on diablo 2 and the like, minecrsft and going to try terraria (pls no /v/ully)
Thanks in advance and pic is for attention

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ITX isn't a good idea for a server unless space is at an absolute premium for you and you know for sure that you won't want to expand beyond the number of drives you can fit in the thing, both in terms of SATA ports and the number you can physically fit in your tiny case. You will also be limited to a single expansion slot. If you don't have an iGPU, you need a graphics card and the slot is gone. Even if you do buy something with an iGPU, one slot isn't that much. You may want to use it to get more SATA ports with some HBA, or you might want to use it for a 10Gbps network card or something, but you can't have both or use more than 1 HBA for even more drives.

There's just no point at all to constrain yourself and future upgrade possibilities as much as that unless physical space is at an absolute premium to you. You're better off with a big case and with an ATX mobo otherwise.

A. desu user, I'd just get an rpi and run Ubuntu server on it (or cheap ryzen cpu)
B. The backend for your website will be an HTTP server / REST API. look up how to do that in your language of choice
C. If hosting Minecraft, the Paper server software is really well optimized

I really want a comfy server desu but I dont really need one

>can anyone recc me some comfy low spec games to host?
OpenTTD maybe? No idea what requirements the server has but I imagine it has to be very light, at least if you don't go crazy with the number of vehicles on the map.

A) the thing is im a third world poorfag and got 2 pcs and want to put them to use, but i can expand a little and get some ssse3 cpus since they still used the same bracket
B) gonna research that and C, thanks for the info
Doesnt matter dude, get a reason to do it, im sctually hosting my minecragt server for my country's board in 8 ch, and that taught me a lot about linux and hosting ingeneral
Gonna try that and surely openrc too, thanks for making me remember of those too

Old versions of Debian can be pretty nice on aged hardware.

Gonna check earlier stable releases, 10.0 was a nogo for me

you always need a server. pro tip: just get into usenet warez. suddenly you can't have enough storage

>im sctually hosting my minecragt server for my country's board in 8 ch
cringe

i want to buy a cheap optiplex/elitedesk mainly to use as a seedbox and nextcloud. would it be a bad idea to install void linux on it? I'll be using docker. also, what file system? just regular ext4? nextcloud data is going to be semi important

What case? Looking for something that has a lot of HDD bays that'll fit 2 140mm fans in the front.

Oh well m8 dont want to get into the whole bait cycle but its bewn a wholesome experience for all of us and i have made plenty of people happy and more social with each other

Does anyone know a recipe manager software?
One with calorie calculators?

recipe mgr, tthere's openeats. tried to get it going outside of docker but the instructions were old and spent too much time on it so deploy w/ docker. It can multiply recipe quantities so you can probably enter the calories and when you increase the quantity it should match.

Can somebody point me to a no-headache 4-port PCIe GbE card? Multiple vlan and RSTP support under Windows 10 would be nice but not mandatory.

>inb4:
>multiple vlan
>windows
>no headache
I know. I'm desperate.

Quad port? Instel has a bunch out there, go on amazon/ebay some are like sub $20

>Datahoarding OK here?
I'm in Europe, what's the currently the best price/TB ratio hard drive I can buy?

Not him, but that's a Fractal Design Define R5 and it supports 8 hard drives out of the box (and two ssd mounts in the back of the motherboard tray). It also has official support for two 140mm fans in the front.

the R6 version is greed mode and only comes with 6 hard drive caddies and you need to buy more separately if you want to fill it up (i think it has like 10 or 11 slots but yeah DLC hdd caddies ugh)

Keep eye on MyBook 8TB and 10TB sales.

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Do you have any price range? Quality? Are you willing to shuck?
Some WD elements are on a pretty good sale on amazon.de atm. 4TB for 90€.

Theres also MyBook 8 TB for 160€, free delivery.

220 euro don't sound to bad
I am willing to shuck, however, I do not have the need to. My parents are literal hoarders and my dad had a phase where he was downloading anything that showed up in front of him with a torrent extension and would download it, There are several hundred DVDs on shelves here and This(getting them into a HD medium) would be a good way to get them to throw them away.

got a cheap used 8xSATA to SCSI controller with redundant PSUs, kept the backplane and put together a PCB to breakout the SATA connections, ATX power, I2C for the thermal controller
as a nice detail I added a µC to interface with the front LCD, buttons, and LEDs for all drives

threw in a cheap miniITX AMD AM1 system, miniPCIe 2xSATA and PCIe LSI 4xSATA controllers for a total of 10 ports which covers all the hot-swap bays and leaves 2 for internal SSDs
total build price was probably around €250

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thats pretty sweet. what do you use it for

NAS, it has enough storage that I don't need to worry about it for the next years (not that I need much anyway)
it runs 2 RAID5 arrays for backups and a RAID0 array as a scratch disk

to save power it will auto-suspend when no clients are connected, and my router will wake it up when ARP packets are sent for that IP

it will also rsync part of the data to a server on a secondary location (you never know)
that server is actually my workhorse, and runs SSH, HTTP, transmission, and a bunch of other stuff
it's an old T61 that refuses to die and would be running over 370 days uptime if I didn't shut it down for a HDD upgrade
it makes for a surprisingly reliable server

pic related, while it was my main laptop, before the nVIDIA GPU inevitably crapped out

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Snagged myself a Dell Precision T5500 with Xeon x5647 CPU, 8 TB HDD, 240 GB SSD, 48 GB DDR3 registered ECC RAM and a spare riser board for an additional x5647 and additional 24 GB of RAM. How did I do?

>Intel quad port
Thought about it. Any experience in particular?

Well kinda off topic but then again not really since a lot of home servers are used for this to.

In case you ain't heard yet I've got some bad news; E-Hentai may be on the chopping block. Dude who runs it said Dec 2020 is it. No more E-Hentai after that date. So if you wanted something or looking for English translations I'd be fucking saving shit like crazy while I could. A lot of those English trans groups used it as a base to share works so I'm pissed that the site may be soon gone.

Once E-Hentai goes, well there goes the last of the good fucking sites. (Fakku don't really count anymore due to them being a pay site). Another sign for me to hang it up. Only really big thing I'm pissed about is that Human Highlight Film ain't done a Claire Redfield doujin yet and now there is very high risk such doujin if made won't see the light in english. Sucks ass.

>Not having a p2p network for that shit

so im pretty much a layman in these fields but let me see if i understand you correctly, you have a server with 8 sata hard drives, 4 of which mirror the other four on which you just store whatever data you want. Plus a swap drive of sorts. Did I get that correctly?

Thing I never understand about these setups is... the point.. Do you just want to have a lot of data available on your network? I am the kind of guy who has had a lot of "oops moments" and have the exprience of losing important data. I tend to do backups or use drives in the fashion of VHS tapes basically, write once, or twice, read many times and keep them offline when not in use.

What OS are you running and how are you serving up the content?

bought 6x 8TB hdds for my server. Thank god I did it before this trade war shit was brought back up. Never know if the price will skyrocket on drives or whatnot. No real rush yet to install them, current pool is still healthy and is still under 80% full (79% now)

Yeah its time for me to hang it up, my porn and hentai hobby that is. Been doing it since 1997. That's a long time. Lots of people focus on quantity, not me. I focused on quality. Anyway all or close to all of my favorite porn stars are "retired" from the biz. Plus the biz itself has gotten more "tame" over time with tats and piercings and double E tits seemingly mandatory. so yeah time to hang it up.

(Now I've nothing against a good tit job but the key word here is good, a lot aren't)

>Lots of people focus on quantity, not me. I focused on quality
>Hentai
Name one quality cartoon porn movie from Nipperstan.

purpose of the NAS is to:
a) have a central place to sync all my devices with/to (I do multi-master sync using unison) which means I also have a backup should any of my other machines fail
this is also the data that gets rsync'd to a secondary location
mostly documents, music, pictures, and other personal stuff that I don't want gone even if the house burns to the ground

b) provide bulk storage space for other data that I'd rather not lose, but is too big and/or not important enough to regularly backup and/or sync to different places
this is mostly media, software and game archives

the NAS runs CentOS and data is served through NFS via a GbE interface
yeah, 120MiB/s isn't blazing fast, but syncing is quick enough that I can't justify the expense and effort of deploying 10GbE

pic is a tiny NAS I put together when I first moved in here
based on a bananaPi, mostly serves content that I'd like to be always available without burning a lot of power, serves both NFS and Samba for Windows clients (mostly my wife), and runs an mpd server

the LCD was there mostly just for kicks, but has since been removed when I put it into a case, since it wasn't really that useful and

I can get ~45MiB/s over NFS which is pretty good considering how cheap it was

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Another Lady Innocent, KxKxK

>He watches cartoon rape movies
That's not quality. What happened to consensual love-making?

He moved the server to Moldavia, ex is already back up

My deepnude server

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a lot of that just goes way over my head. i need to get a pi and play around with doing file sharing over nfs

Just changed external ssh port from a random one to port 22. How fucked will i be?

done with BTC?

I use mine for file storage, streaming movies and music, for backing up my client computers, and for remote access (FTP).

If you have a large music/movie collection having a digital copy of it makes life so much easier plus it saves your discs from getting fucked up over time.

Whats that dock under ur gen8?
Op mate, what are you hosting?

>Whats that dock under ur gen8?
HP PS1810-8G switch.

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Thats genius
based HPE

What kind of cable are you using to connect all your hard drives?

Pretty nice, but I'd try and remove the tape, usb cable and the random hdd can be put inside. all in all, looks good user, what do you use it for

jk it's an eth mining rig
was good for heating my apartment that only had electric heat, saved a lot of money

Not him but i think its something like this.
sas header to sata

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I can imagine,
still running?

thanks. need one of these for cable management. it's a mess with 10 sata cables.

No No No No No PLz
it only works from a raid controller

hello raspberry pi general, i sure do love these threads where 3/4 of the posts are just a clone of stupid questions general!

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nice rice

>rice
just the type of response i was expecting, i bet you dont even lab windows servers

Facts. These threads are pretty shitty we need to spit off raspi/desktop general and actual enterprise server general. These poorfag neets are annoying as fuck

Just you fags don’t accuse me of larping, gaze upon ~200TB of storage and a virtualization server (R910) with 512GB RAM and 64 cores running over 40 VMs. Also got 2 UPS to power it, a Cisco ASA, and multiple switches (not all of them pictured here).

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Post your E-bill or stop pretending.

What are the cheapest 4tb hdd I should get?
Will be using those to store pic and music
Wd Blue or Seagate Baracude?

look for hdd with usb and crack the case.
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in amazon europe this way you can get a 10tb wd red.

ID on case?

Servers last legs. Laptop is a samsung RC530. I feel bad for it trying to encode BR rips it's been through some shit. WD red on the left is 10TB main storage, drive on the right bay is only 2TB I'm seeding from. Also stuff on the 2x 1TB internal drives on the laptop itself. About 25TB all up on those loose drives on the right too which are the backups I just rsync to.

I've ordered a DS1019+ as well as 5x 8TB drives but it's going to be a few weeks before it gets here. Probably going to R6 it but I'll see how I go for space. I have a shitload of backup space so I might even R5 if I start wanting for more storage space and just risk the lowered parity. My current setup is stressing me out though, I have files scattered all fucking over the 4 drives connected up right now and I can't orgainise anything until the NAS arrives. It's backed up but a total shit fight. it's going to take a good part of my weekend to properly orgainise it all.

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He did seem like personally he was over dealing with it all. But it's good to know he cares enough to keep trying for now. If nothing else this seems like a wakeup call and now all the datahoarding autists will go out of their way to archive the site, so if in the future ex vanishes we won't straight up lose all the content.

>tfw can't rotate images

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Not reliably, if you want a red buy an actual red unless you are absolutely certain the batch you are buying the externals from are all reds.

How do you power that HDD, just a PSU laying around or somethibg smaller? Looking for something that's maybe a breakaway for powering the *pi and has SATA power.

Why not stack the NUCs? Are there not vents on the right side?