Why did companies stop selling cases that could fit more than 8+ hard drives?

why did companies stop selling cases that could fit more than 8+ hard drives?

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why is none of this shit in stock

the fractal r5 can take 12 easily , even more if you use the 2 logical drives (14 total)

Because cases stopped being about functionality and now they're all about >muh aesthetics. Can't have functional drive bays because they ruin the clean aesthetic of my all-glass RGB-lit fishtank

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The cloud

Why would I need more than 9tb max which can be done in mini itx

Because that many drives don't belong in your daily driver and if you're starting up with a NAS or something then you're going to go with a different form factor.

And for the special snowflakes who think they do need that many drives, there's eSATA and external enclosures, which is probably a better setup for the snowflakes when we get to the fringe scenarios.

Because if you need 8+ drives, you probably need to access the data from multiple devices and thus would be better served with a NAS or a full-blown file server.

>daily driver
stop

Technically I can fit 98 TB in my Node 304

It's the correct term.

They haven't? The Phanteks 600s can take up to 10, but they only include 4 3.5" drive brackets, you have to buy the rest separately. It's literally a flagship tempered glass RGB meme case and still takes more than 8 hdds

>Why would I need more than ?

Gentle reminder to use filters for buzz words like "daily driver," "big data," "cloud" & "tranny."

I use 3tb

ikr, I fucking hate the current state of things

I don't understand how a non-professional or non-photographer could fill even 8tb, ever

How can it take 12 easily? I have 7 plus a BD-RE drive in mine and there's only room for 1 more. Unless you're counting 2.5" and M.2 drives.

>Define R5 Top HDD Cage - Black
>SOLD OUT

fuck you fuck you fuck you

Wait, they don't? I've seen plenty of the cheap chink ones that can house 8+ in a case. I understand the trend is moving otherwise but you're just wrong.

Data hoarding, backups of media and software mostly.

fractal r6 can take 11 3.5" and 4 2.5" drives

I dunno, I don't like Netflix because their content rotates out and sometimes I just want to watch a show. It's simple to download so why not?

Because needing that many 3.5" drives is completely obsolete in the modern era. Storage capacity has expanded so much that there's no feasible reason that you would have more than like four drives in a personal system, not to mention the common SSD form factor is only 2.5" and a lot flatter, so they can have their own alternative mount points. There's literally no reason for your personal system to have that many drives, and if you're trying to make some kind of massive raid array you're better off using an external enclosure anyway.

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Thermaltake Core X9. It's all I ever could have asked for and I even was able to swap out the side window for something less cringy. Mine (with a custom HDD rack inside) currently fits 20 3.5" drives and still has space for probably 3 times that before cooling issues arise.

I literally don't care, user, I'm watching a show made 30 years ago.

Ez
Local sadpanda copy - 50TB

fuck

While we're on it, is there a new site online with the original 50TB backup or not?

>"Nobody would use that because I said so!"
You're severely mentally limited. Go read a book or talk to a friend.

no

Who fucking cares? Just duct tape two cases together side-by-side.

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why do people keep mentioning external enclosures and nas? they are fucking garbage; most of the parts are random shit

by adding literally one bit

appendum: non-professionals/non-photographers who aren't degenerates

either way, almost every midtower can fit 3x 3.5 inch hdd's which is 24TB

The original site is back up. They moved to some slav shithole where actual pedos roam the streets so sad panda is small beans

I have ten years of porn, memes and a several hundred game steam library and it takes up 6tb. WTF are you biggers hoarding?

No, he said nobody needs it because options have expanded to the point where it's pretty stupid to stuff that many HDDs into a computer that isn't a server, which you aren't buying that case for. And he's right. You want that specific setup for ricing purposes, not practical ones.

ITT: a bunch of upset boomers mad that things are different even though they'd never populate more than 4 drive bays anyway in the rest of their pathetic existence

That backup was fake. As expected of the faggots here.

Yes.

make your own

Absolutely fucking based.

Well time to make my own I guess.

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why do i find out about this shit only after i've set up multiple R5 servers

>Why would I need more than 9tb
Because you need triple redundancy

>He doesn't exclusively use NVMe storage
Your problem. Each ATX case provides at least 7 expansion slots for you, each to hold 4 NVMe drives on an expansion card. Not counting the motherboard internal ones btw

>8 drives? Why would you ever want 6 drives? No one could ever need 4 drives! Help! Some mad man is trying to kill me over my last 2 drives!

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>7 expansion slots for you, each to hold 4 NVMe drives on an expansion card

Each NVMe disk requires x4 lanes of PCIe, with most boards only supporting 32 lanes max, that maxes out at 8 disks, but that would preclude any other PCIe usage.
A GPU takes x16, so now you're down to x16 available for NVMe, subtract x8 for other misc PCIe cards, and now you only have x8 available for NVMe, that's two fucking disks.

tl;dr: YOU ARE A NIGGER

He's a nigger but not for that.
A single 4TB NVMe drive (which only exists in enterprise class shit right now) would cost ~ 730€.
That's about 24 TB of a reliable brand 4TB HDDs. Yeah no thanks nigger I'll pass on NVMeme shit for my lts.

Go back.

to both of you

It's not the fault of the PC case that your motherboard has too little lanes, and it's also not the fault of the PC case that the drives are expensive. Imagine someone screaming "Oh the SAS drives are too expensive! That's the fault of the 2.5" bays of the PC case!!!111". Yikes.

>Oh the SAS drives are too expensive! That's the fault of the 2.5" bays
Most SAS drives are 2.5", you shitlicker

Because anyone needing higher capacities are buying servers/SAN/NAS, and honestly, it's gotten a lot more accessible for a home user to run off the shelf hardware in a 1/2/3/4U case.

In the near future i'll probably drop having a traditional desktop and build my powerful hardware into a rackable case i can keep somewhere out of the way.

Don't avoid the argument. Your previous ramblings about NVMe being too expensive is not the fault of the case. Just because a case does not have 2.5"/3.5" drive cages it does not mean it's at fault for the price of NVMe. Just because SAS drives are expensive doesn't mean the cases that support those drives are at fault. Hence there is literally nothing wrong with a case with no drive cages--what are your PCI expansion bays for?

You can literally fit all recorded information created by humanity prior to the year 1990 within 10TB or so. But I guess you're smarter and more important than the billions of people who came before you, including Apollo scientists.

>You can literally fit all recorded information created by humanity prior to the year 1990 within 10TB or so.

No, you can't. For example, a single 65/70mm film would take tens of gigabytes to store digitally even if severely compressed, and there are hundreds of them.

>Garbage
Build your own NAS

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Heaven forbid you use your case for a home server. No, it needs to be an LED aquarium to get internet points on Reddit.

Because consumers didnt need that. The end. How the fuck do you make it as a case maker if you dont cater to the needs of the many? its already a niche market where most people buy the $50 case because its cheap. Why do companies stop offering any product? Because it sells so much they dont want to have to count that much money?

It is because SATA controllers are limited to six to eight maximum and most people don't bother getting SATA HBA for more drives.

If you dealing more than eight HDDs, you probably want a more specialized chassis for it and are going to be opting for a SAS setup.

Acutally 3.5" media is going away in the nromal world as everyone moves towards 2.5" and M.2 Express slots for their storage needs.

Full-tower and mid-tower ATX chassis are going to meet their mainstream predecessors in the retirement home in the mid to late 2020s.

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Barebones 1U/2U stuff are pretty affordable these days. What kills it are the motherboards and HSF solutions are it are still pricey unless you are shopping for decommissioned hardware.

There are a ton of rackmount chasis out there that have room for more than 8.
Most of'um have hot-swap bays too.

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If you need more than 8 drives in a case, you should be looking at file servers.

Just buy a mid tower server or something dude.

Because it saves money and affects an exceedingly small fraction of the market, it just makes a lot of financial sense to cut those corners and push the people who actually need lots of drives to buy the more expensive premium options.

>what is a rackmount NAS/SAN

Never underestimate anime hoarders, user.

when was the last time you used 8+ hard drives?

Me right now. I have 22TB of storage.

That's like 3 modern drives

fuck that rackmount bullshit
why would i want that kind of weight and noise in my bedroom

i am planing to use a proliant server for data server.

If my calculations are right i can have:
>5 hdd's in drive bay
>4 hdd's in cage caddy rack nº1
>4 hdd's in cage caddy rack nº2
>1 ssd for OS

Having in total:
>13 hdd's
>1 ssd

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what case is that
not seeing it on hp

proliant ml310 g5

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Yeah, without any redundancy.

>three modern disks
Right, which means you need a minimum of six disks, preferably nine, in order to have meaningful data integrity.

the r6 can take 12 too

I have two aquariums in my room, they're loud as balls.

Big cases seem to be going out of fashion and HDDs even more so. Nowadays the market demands some fancy glass and LED shit, possibly room for a big AIO radiator in the front instead of drive bays. Storage is handled by 1-3 m.2 drives and 1-2 SATA or some shit, so a lot of bays aren't needed.

You can still find them if you look, though. Obviously there's the option to go for actual server cases, but if you can't find something used for a good price or just want a case which will guaranteed be compatible with standard consumer form factors, there are some around. I got a Nanoxia Deep Silence 5 for my server, it can fit 11 3.5" drives by default and comes with 4 5.25" bays as well, if you buy adapters for those you can fit another 6 3.5" drives, so 17 in total would be pretty easy to achieve. Even more than that would be doable if they sell extra cages, but I'm not sure whether they do.

I was thinking about getting the Define R6, but it only comes with 6 HDD trays. You have to buy more. They're nickel and diming us.

Because consumers didn't want or need them. Most people are served fine with 1 ssd and 1 hdd. You could even go with an m.2 drive and a 2.5" hdd to take up even less room at a minimal premium.

Because nobody needs to store that much fucking data you cringy ass weeb.

If you do you're probably doing it commercially or as a source of income, which means local-onsite storage is fucking braintlet tier. Most cases can support 2x 3.5" hdd's which go up to 6tb, 2x 2.5" hdd's which, you can easily stikc another 1-2tb in there, then 2x m.2 ssd's for another 1-2tb. Fuck you thats enough for your faggot ass cringy weeb steam library.

You're not fooling anyone op, just run a Nas system for your cp collection.

My case advertises spaces for like 10 hard drives but in reality it's just a bunch of screw mounts tacked all over the fucking place inside the case. The actual hard drive bay fits like 2.

It's because most motherboards only have like 6 sata slots, and the rest are m.2. Even most of the higher end consumer boards only have 8. Since ssd are getting cheaper, there's even less reason to do full 3.5" drives since ssd don't need to be mounted to work well.

Just buy them from ebay. It's not like you need them to be brand new. It's just a piece of steel. It's not gonna go up and die suddenly just because it's been used for 10 years already.

Having literally owned that exact case pictured. If you need this many hard drives it's a fucking waste of time to run a NAS or PC or anything in a case like this. Strait and simple build a separate FreeNAS box or something with redundancy and an actual backplane and trays for the drives. Local storage in your PC should mostly be SSD only at this point maybe one spinning disk.

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Does anime really need that much integrity though?

Damn I remembered we had this kind of setup when I first work in a company more than 10 years ago

8 stacks of 250GB 3.5" hard drive in raid0 to store dynamic test simulation of a bridge

I bought a Bitfenix Shinobi for my NAS, it's a pretty standard size case that fits 13 drives.

Massive hardon

>not hot-swappable
into the garbo

Gee, why don't commercial capitalist companies produce things that aren't profitable?
Things are made for the majority, for everything else there's a niche. Server cases exist for specially this reason and are actually pretty cheap.

I swear this board becomes more retarded by the day.

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Have fun having a separate desk for your pc case I guess

Hotswap means backplanes and backplanes means high cost. You can get five hotswap bays in here, it's the best poorfag option. Sadly afaik there's no 9/12 5.25 bay cases being produced anymore, otherwise I'd have one of those. Twenty hotswappable drives in the footprint of a normal tower would be fucking fantastic.

because why by 8 500gb drives when you can just buy a massive Terabyte drive and partition it you fucking retard?
make a fucking volume group for each use you fucking asswipe genuine retard

partitions make my drives feel unclean

>Having your PC on your desk
Just answer me this. Why in the fuck do people do this?