So 8ch is blocked because "muh extremists". Why not monitor it extensively? Why not get unique insight into the workings of these weirdos if they are so dangerous? Everything this tells me is that 3 letter agencies monitor who is on these websites and don't do anything with the info. Why bother then?
CIA/NSA/etc... you're all a bunch of incompetent fucks.
> oh Agent Smith > you heard about 8ch > h-haha no what is it? > it's this racist website where schoolshooters are created > oh r-really > never heard about it haha
Grayson Hernandez
CIA and co are behind the fake shooting events.
Michael Collins
>censorship doesn't work!!!! Look at alex jones. Most poeple forgot he exists after he got shunned from all major platforms. Just cut them off. Fuck free speech. Also shut down Jow Forums as well. Every person who browses this site knows it's a waste of time.
Nolan Peterson
Because Cloudflare only wanted to end their contract and the shooting came as the perfect excuse for that. Just one reason to hate Cloudflare.
Aiden Ward
You can still go on it using IP in url bar instead of url
Lucas Jackson
that has already been happening for a long time.
Elijah Rivera
Kill yourself statist.
William Morris
>alex jones was anti bush and pro obama >but now that he's supported trump he needs to go into the memory hole
Blake Foster
>Everything this tells me is that 3 letter agencies monitor who is on these websites and don't do anything with the info It's just that movies are full of lies and it's not so easy to find someone within very limited time.
Adrian Wright
>So 8ch is blocked because "muh extremists it was blocked because it shows they did something. no one expects it to actually change anything
Hunter Baker
> Why not get unique insight into the workings of these weirdos Not their business, it's just a risk management for these companies.
Carson Reyes
They were already there doing that and they were the ones encouraging these kids to throw away their lives.
Aaron James
They already monitored them, they even posted shit to manipulate cucks, but they can't hide their incompetence so they rather shut it down.
Liam Howard
I always knew those capefags were up to something
Bentley James
yep all those racist extremist shooters are really dangerous! that 0.0001% of anual murders are really a problem foe our society! even if they make a murder rate of less that what countries like sweden has!
those niggers gangs killing dozens of people per day? naa thats fine not a problem!
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Charles Morales
Blacks kills blacks, be glad their fixing their own problem
Austin Peterson
it was even deleted by moderators maybe cloudflare were forced to do it by government
James Lee
Because they will setup a new honeypot they have control over shit sniffing 8 Chan faggot and when they do bye.
Mason Nelson
You're right, OP. It's better to have these nutjobs out in the light where you can keep an eye on them rather than forcing them into the darkness where they can hide.
Luis Young
It's not so fake to the people who got shot.
Jordan Howard
/co/ is a board of peace
Robert Russell
they tried that, and figured out that they weren't doing anything illegal.
Dylan Gray
Huh? Did Cloudflare even need an airtight reason to drop their service? I thought they could cancel it at any time, it's in the fine print dude. Cloudflare is just a money-making business. I don't think they have, even for a second, pretended to be some sort of protector of free speech. What are you even going on about?
Ryan Hughes
the real answer is that since 2^3chan was fingered as radicalizing people it was decided by (((someone))) to be shut down since it's an eminent threat
Aiden Bailey
It's been proven that FBI posts on 8ch. They subpoenaed 8ch and in the printout of a thread a reply showed (you), the (you) being a poster using the fbi wifi.
Who said it's fake, you niggers already flew 2 planes into your own buildings. It's nothing compared to shooting up few latinos
Blake Jenkins
That literally just means they asked for information and someone provided it. Your accusation is as stupid as saying the FBI participates in Jordanian Prince scams by replying to the "Prince" and then saving the conversation for the judge.
True. I'm actually expecting the first amendment to be modified in the next couple of decades over people like Alex Jones. They'll just change it from wording centered around the free press to something like "free speech" explicitly, then remind everyone that free speech has limits ala yelling fire in a crowded building. This would open the door to censorship of for-profit journalism which I, again my opinion, think the majority of America absolutely hates right now.
Just getting rid of instances of "lying for money", however inaccurately defined, would address the pressing issue people have with Alex Jones and the press at large.
Evan Young
its because it was more or less completely laissez faire and you could create your own boards. it was reddit but actually designed to facilitate instead of stifle communication, so of course they would try and kill their competition
its not about controlling what people are allowed to say, that's just the misdirection, its about limiting your avenues of communication so all of the options you have in front of you are compromised and you are unlikely or incapable of choosing an avenue of communication that isn't run by a nefarious party
William Rivera
like everything else
Thomas Gray
>Why not get unique insight into the workings of these weirdos its like you're implying there's something to learn from watching alt-right retards jerk each other off
Alexander Cruz
because their goal is to control the bounds of political speech. neo nazis are easy to silence because everyone hates them.
Evan Carter
There's no info to glean from 8gag shitposts, it's not some super secret hacker IRC where actual plans and agendas are discussed. For every person that displays true intent to make a 10-hour drive to an El Paso Wal-Mart to shoot the last 5 white people that live there there are 100 retards just shitting garbage out of their mouth. The signal to noise ratio is far too low.
Ian Wood
It's not actually blocked, cloudflare just saw a chance to virtue signal and deepthroated it Then the site got ddos'd because someone always will on a chan Then they moved to another provider, who was shut down so the provider's provider could virtue signal Then they took themselves down to figure out a way to un-ddos themselves without relying on a third party And here we are
Caleb Foster
We know it was being monitored for years. There is a rumor that hotwheels (site creator) worked with the US government. After the site was sold the new owner told everyone hotwheels recorded everybody's posts and hiding their IP address server side in an encrypted file.
Ian Howard
>cloudflare just saw a chance to virtue signal and deepthroated it they did this with Daily Stormer too, which was the test case. the dip into the water of their big toe. they've found no real consequences for blatant censorship of dissident views and they're not going to stop until they're forced to by the State.
Tyler Perez
You mean the cia doesnt control cloudflare? Whoa op.
Eli Butler
Ten days of darkness
Isaac Murphy
Corporate virtue signaling. It has nothing to do with 3 letter agencies.
Nolan Williams
Security theater
Parker Fisher
Why would they? What benefit does the Cia gain from actively policing the boards and risking bad optics?
Blake Ortiz
fuck that inbred alex jones retard
Blake Reed
The answer is political, not technical. Basically the people in charge want to be "seen as doing something," but not necessarily do anything.
Brody Miller
Because incompetence is more prevalent than conspiracy.
Levi Rogers
Alex Jones is a shill and a cuck.
Austin Wood
>Did Cloudflare even need an airtight reason to drop their service? If they want to keep good publicity they should always appear reasonable to the public.
Adrian Adams
are you samefagging this hard? not only are they turning the frogs gay but this poster too
Anthony Ortiz
you're not 'people' to the glowniggers tho
Camden Peterson
You don't understand because you're assuming that the enemy is telling you the truth.
The point is to cripple alt-right communication and organization.
Jones is a glownigger installed to make a mockery of and discredit conservatives by associating them with belligerence, conspiracies like alien bullshit, and snake oil peddling
Connor Allen
>security agencies are incompetent They have a pretty hard problem to solve. You can't jail everyone who says something extreme. You have to catch them in the act of planning something. I'm surprised they don't manage better than this though. I wouldn't think people who go to 8ch have that good opsec.
Alexander Taylor
This is the only explanation
David Walker
>American intelligence agencies are shit Essentially. Which is why I call complete bullshit on the HK riots being a CIA psyop. They're way too successful for that.
>So 8ch is blocked because "muh extremists". Why not monitor it extensively? Why would cloudflare care about doing that?
Does it make them money somehow?
Jordan Hernandez
>You can't jail everyone who says something extreme. wrong for germany.
Joshua Morris
Absolutely not true. You don't appreciate the amounts of shit people say.
Dylan Wood
>Jones is a glownigger installed to make a mockery of and discredit conservatives by associating them with belligerence, conspiracies like alien bullshit, and snake oil peddling
That's why they took unprecedented steps to shut him down right?
You have the worldview of a teenager. Get serious.
Oliver Jackson
yes, actually They're in a bunch of trouble with the RIAA and the MPAA for not kowtowing to their retarded, technologically illiterate, backwards, anti-innovation copyright demands, and not immediately pulling down all pirate sites that use their services. Taking down sites, any sites, at all, for any reason, gives those assholes ammo in court. They fucking jumped on it when cloudflare refused to provide service to the daily stormer, you think they won't take advantage of this too?
Camden Cruz
>Why not monitor it extensively?
There's no point. Censorship is extremely effective and relatively simple.
Oliver Russell
>wrong for germany. Nah, I am not in prison.
Joseph Ross
>Censorship is extremely effective and relatively simple. At doing what? Setting up an authoritarian state, sure.
Samuel Murphy
Not true. It has been proven that the CIA monitors and posts on Jow Forums. In an official document they forgot to redact a post number and using an archive someone on Jow Forums was able to read their posts; they're influencing and derailing conversations.
Aiden James
No, the fbi printed out a thread and it showed that they posted on that thread
daily reminder that hot wheels supported pedophilia on 8ch but now he fights against the administration because of some nationalist manifesto and even cooparates with the flip government to get 8ch shut down. this is your free speech advocate. what a joke of a person, not only on the outside but also on the inside
Yeah just reading his posts you can tell he is glow in the dark. I see people like this all the fucking time on here, and I always wonder why they talk like that. Wonder what portion of them glow in the dark and what portion are just retarded/insane.
Charles Morris
are they using typewriter to print stuff ? it looks like stuff from 80's or are they using non properitary printing machine with shit calibration ?
Anthony Wright
I unironically hope that Americans elect McAfee as president.
He's the saviour we truly need.
Evan Campbell
I agree. Now they’ve scattered to different sites. They could have contained all the weirdos in one place. I guess they don’t want the ideas on their spreading
Joseph Gutierrez
>dumbass thinks planes hit the WTC causing an explosion from the inside
Jesus.
Hudson Johnson
People like you genuinely disgust me. But unlike you, I think it is a good thing that you are free to broadcast your retarded opinion.
I live in a country ran by corrupt dictators and no freedom of speech. When dumbass Westerners like you talk about "fuck freedom of speech", you just know the end of the Roman empire is nigh.
Grayson Mitchell
>I live in a country ran by corrupt dictators and no freedom of speech
hey fellow britbong
Blake Jenkins
>I unironically hope that Americans elect McAfee as president. I want to see them mano-a-mano.
Juan Parker
>CIA/NSA/etc... you're all a bunch of incompetent fucks what if... they knew... and just let it happen?
Henry James
>I unironically hope that Americans elect McAfee as president that would be beautiful.
>the US government is trying to prevent deaths The whole world laughed out loud at that, senpai.
Brandon Stewart
8ch is still up and can be accessed via the IP address
Noah Diaz
>Alex jones >Pro-obama So downright stupidity is the level of "alternative facts" these people peddle these days. Wew.
Eli Gomez
>decades wow ur optimistic. that shit will be done in under 4 years.
Jordan Rivera
>3 mass shooters/terrorists in a single year >All radicalized in part due to that site's concentrated raw Jow Forums sewage >""""I don't understand why people wouldn't want to give it a grand opening stage for all to participate"""" When you have a deadly disease spreading indiscriminately you don't just spread it so that "everyone can see how damgerous it is". You contain and quarantine it to prevent from cause any more damage.
>Imagine being this visually challenged Steel fuel can't melt jet beams. Where were the crisis actors when the frogs turned gay??? Investigate sandyleven now!!
Yeah ya think? Checkout all the mason lodges in el paso, there was a thread on Pol about them. Also where does q post?
Samuel Diaz
I doubt Amerikwa minds a few people getting killed because one of their many entrapment operations went haywire. Maybe they sometimes don't even plan to stop violent acts, so as to shift popular opinion this or that way when tragedy hits. We're talking about a country whose military takes down governments and destroys foreign food supply chains to manipulate oil prices.
The answer here though is probably just that there's many groups or even factions within the immense, loosely-organized USG (including its law enforcement), and they don't all communicate perfectly all the time, nor even have the same goals. IIRC there's been plenty of covert warmongering between the various alphabet agencies.
Asher Reed
Why do you think Cloudfare took them down? They don't want glowers stalking on 8ch and arresting their users
Zachary Morris
Alex Jones brought it to himself. Only a retard would double-down on the "Sandy Hook was a hoax" conspiracy theory for 50 $ extra of ad revenue. And let's not pretend like he wasn't telling his supporters to attack other people when he got fired up.
Gavin Howard
>Cloudflare is a government agency This is your brain on Jow Forums.
Lincoln Rodriguez
>you can just tell The calls to save it were a little sus but no you can't in general. That's clear.
Asher Brown
They stop normies from going there and getting "recruited" while still being able to monitor that shit.
Censorship *is* effective - at Streisand Effects making the suppressed content more widely distributed, or causing further acts of violence.
Dominic Sanchez
The chan was not shutdown to censor it was shutdown to prevent new content from being created. 3+5chan had the huge ability to create, refine valid information & ideas packaged in convenient media to be exported to other places. Big examples are pQrs, pgate, gamengate, UK and euro politics that could be discussed without the threat of posters being thrown in jail for saying grooming gangs are mostly run by native born Muslims. Feds, eurocucks, mainstream media and (((they))) couldn't handle the fact that the chans' information and attitude dissemination ability overmatched the old media's & paid shills ability to influence and corral the populace away from wrongthink.