Defcon 27

Ok, how many of you clowns are here?
Discuss - how was day 1, what seems interesting, new, etc.

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at the cock.li party right now

>go to defcon
>get photographed by 82 different federal agencies
>facial recognition and biometric data is all saved, categorized, and uploaded to international databases
Why do this? You're just painting a target on your back. You can watch recordings of all the talks later if you feel like it.

Some people are not blackhat and also some people aren't schizophrenic.

I'm here. missed everything cause my plane was a red eye from home. hitting up the sea and dronewarz villages tomorrow.
did you already badge fuck?

Why would I paint a target on my back?
Are you saying da feds all shop at target?
I dont get it

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Sad that something that started as a black hat convention just turned into a corporate trade show.

>schizo
It's a target rich environment and the FBI makes no secret of the fact that they always have a presence there. They would have to be totally retarded to miss the opportunity to monitor or at least catalog everyone that attends. I mean, the fucking NSA was categorizing Linux forum users as potential extremists, so why would they ignore Defcon attendees?

I wish I could go. I wish I was smart enough to play in the CTF.

This is false.

No, it is true. You do realize the point of the conference, right? Those agencies want to hire you to do infosec for them.

>the fucking NSA was categorizing Linux forum users as potential extremists
lmao what

It's tru.

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Upload the good talks to youtube pls

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P1.
My first time attending - day 1 and I already fucking hate this place.
Any oldfags can you please confirm it wasn't always like this...I intended to go to a hacker conference, to surround myself with individuals far smarter/experienced than I am, so that I could
learn about new attack vectors/benefit from sharing experience with those who have more of it than I do. I am by no means a fucking l33t hazxor or whatever, in fact I would humbly refer to myself
as a 'noob', as I am fairly new to the field and do not have much 'real-world' experience at all; that said I have a solid knowledge of Kali/Linux in general, as well as the industry standard suite
of pentesting tools. I am very well versed in networking and routing protocols, and have overall the experience of an entry level pentester/midtier IT/network engineer, as well as some hardware/
embedded programming experience (strictly hobbyist-like) and that said programming in general at an intermediate level, and in all the 'basic' languages that everyone knows (C(++), Python, Java, webshit languages). My
intent here is not to brag, my intent is to point out that I am a fucking noob - I intend to learn something at Defcon, so I showed up having a passion for cybersecurity as well as a comprehensive
knowledge base so that I at least know what people are talking about.

P2.
But jesus fucking christ, I could see from the start that my hopes were far off from reality - while I know the types of people
I intend on meeting and enjoying talking too are certainly there, I found myself surrounded by fucking roasties, retards, boomers, and other miscilaneous degenerates. Most if not all the women there
had that fucking look on their faces - I could tell right away they gave zero fucking shits about the infosec community, let alone hacking of any kind - they just showed up to run their fucking mouthes like
women so love to do. I refuse to beleive that any one of the hundreds of roasties I saw had any fucking idea what the speakers were saying, or any interest for that matter. They are here for one
of two reasons; their (((boyfriends))) brought them for god knows fucking why, (not too likely for some of them though, christ) or more likely the fucking "w0men 1n t3ch" meme - apparently any roastie
can show up to defcon and suddenly she is a h4cker like everyone else there. The 101 presentation (despite being a fucking awful experience in general) was sure to emphasise that "everyone was new
once", and that the important part is that we all socialize and teach each other new things, however that only works with a common mindset, where the energy one expends on explaining something to
some noob is put to good use by said noob and goes back into the community - I refuse to beleive that more than half the people there give a shit about the community of "hacking" in general, whatever
they believe that beat-to-death word to mean anyways.

P3.
The people I give credit to the most are the speakers, for being informative and knowledgeable on the topics they discuss, those guys are awesome.
Another thing I noticed during the 101 presentation was the absolute lack of substance from the panel members - there were 3 women up there who I could tell from their voices, and from the things
they were saying with those voices, that they had near zero technical knowledge (but somehow a fuckton of useless shit to say...). There was the skinny faggot who had to remind every 2 minutes he
WAS in fact gay, the women who discussed their dildos and drinking adventures more than is necessasary, and the Canadian kid they kept bullying. I sat in that presentation for 2 hours, not ONE useful
thing was said, and nothing technical whatsoever. Yes, it's a 101, it's more about the community, but I am still left with no clue as to how and why those people are on the panel and what their qualifications
are, something surely worth at least mentioning. They were not shy to mention stories of sex and drinking, howerver. I will end my blog post by saying that no I don't fucking think women and fags and
the like should be banned from Defcon, but they certainly should not be encouraged to attend. I blame the fucking organizers and the media for this - I admit I missed the hype about the "women in infosec" and
"everyone is a hacker" bullshit they push nowadays, but I have been rudely awakened.

>goes to defcon expecting not to run into shills.
try bsideslv or a real hacker con bruz

P4.
Why the fuck does there need to be a "Ladies Meetup", "Diversity Party", "Badass/Cyber Sexurity" meetups? Just fucking why?
If you want to include everyone, then just let everyone in, it's not that fucking hard. When you wave a giant fucking flag that says "WOMEN GET IN HERE", guess what, women get in. Women who have no fucking clue
what they are doing, no knowledge to contribute, no passion/will to learn, only to run their fucking mouthes about completely unrelated shit. Same goes for the "everyone is a hacker" meme - not everyone is a
fucking hacker. This one is arguably worse - because it brings both more women as well as general purpose retards into the community. Not everyone has the fucking IQ to do reverse engineer hardware, to analyze code,
break web applications, write 0-days, or do any combination of what hackers, both white and black hat, do every day. This is an extremely demanding line of work, or a hobby that requires extreme dedication and knowledge,
and the notion that everyone is cut out for it is ignorant at best. Thank god these fuckers glow brighter than the feds, they are easy to avoid. But still it would be a much more fun event had it naturally attracted
more dedicated and knowledgable individuals than it does now - and it pisses me off that the last place I would have thought was safe no longer fucking is - (((they))) are fucking everywhere now. As of today I am
convinced there is no place free of their influence, they have successfully made their way into every niche of society, every profession, everything. God help us now.
I will be spending the next 3 days avoiding these fucks (which will be a challenge) and talking to vendors/doing CTF's, attempting to find the areas of concentration for those who have at least some fucking shred of intellect.

As much as I have lost hope at this point, could you point me to some that you beleive aren't full of shills and normies?

lobotomize yourself

Great argument.
Care to elaborate, Mr. Goldberg?

I'm the one dressed as a fat neckbeard with a javascript sticker on my thinkpad t420

I hope someone finds your post and publically humilates you for it, and all the girls laugh at you

Not my wall of text retard
That said I agree with him

How would this make your life better?

t. cuck

No, just on full tilt. Shill harder retard.
Calling me a cuck won't get you laid, fucking relax.

full autism more like it

These faggoty rocks are making for disappointing badges. I'm just supposed to find the 5 "special badges" and sync with them?

topkek

Autism pride, worldwide.

sounds about right. I've never been but it's got so much press these days that it's bound to attract a ton of morons (what I imagine comicon to be like),sounds like the 101 was literally made for journalists who don't know anything to be able to write their buzzfeed headlines- "The Matrix Revolution is Here, and It Has a Vagina with Purple Pubes" or whatever bullshit they want to sell to their ((audiences))

Anyone got links to recordings of talks? Links to agenda / program of events?
Thanks

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>try bsideslv

GO to website, see this:
"Queercon is excited to be part of BSides Las Vegas again this year. Join us Tuesday night at the Tuscany pool from 8:00 PM until 11:30 for the Queercon BSides Mixer!"

Yikes

Dilate your anus

u guys hacked the planet yet?

>I have a solid knowledge of Kali/Linux in general
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Explain

I should have gone
I missed both Comic-Con and DefCon this year.
I don't go expecting much, just to hang out.
I really like "Hacker Jeopardy" actually. I feel really good when I can get them quick.
It has changed.

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yeah, the whole thing ends up on yt these days

>black hat convention
>thinking it could continue unnoticed
How fucking retarded are you?

>linux journal talking about if you just clicked this link that you are now being monitored
>thinking Im going to click that

seething incel

No I meant the part about everyone not being schizophrenic.

I'll be the one in the green maga hat. find me and call me a faggot, faggots.

I had a chance to go to defcon on my companies dime but didn't because I want to play cogmind at home and work out

was it this or ccc that went 100% SJW and had talks about fucking white males?

have sex

I'm there I'm going to tell other people you called me a faggot

Script kiddie implication.

subscribe to PewDiePie

Ah i figured. I don't see how using Kali makes one a script kiddie - had he said "a strong knowledge of Metasploit" lol yeah, but having tried blackarch and parrotos i still find Kali to be the most comfy. Of course script kiddies use it because its the most popular, but it became so because non skript kiddies used it.

>Reviewing defcon based on Thursday when nothing cool is happening yet

I'll see you codemonkeys at the Packet Hacking village today

kys

Trying to make it to the "giving cops the finger" talk, I'm about 20 minutes out. Anyone know if the line is long?

Skip talks, go to villages. That's where you will actually meet people and learn. I watch main talks online after and focus on interesting things that catch my eye. Don't let the flash and sizzle of shit throw you off with people only here for bling and drinking (but drinking is good).

Eh after party is just free booze. Bsides talks and networking is still pretty tight

posting in this thread is already enough you fucktard

>I didn't go to Vegas for free because I wanted to sit at home and play a videogame

>REEEEEMALES IN MY DEFCON
lmao

sounds possed but not as bad as HOPE was this last year, where half the crowd was likely antifa

none of you faggots have said a word to me. I'm gonna just go to reddit if y'all are gonna be like this T_T

I feel like there's a crazy imbalance with the talks.
>Day 1 was super technical
>Half the talks today are bleh and the interesting ones are skytalks where you have to wait in line for an hour to get in
>Tomorrow there are interesting talks on like 2-3 tracks simultaneously

Unless you're a cyber criminal or a literal terrorist, why should you care? Every other IT bro out there is on federal and international databases for getting security clearances and shit anyway.

Wrong. Skytalks don't make it to yt and recording there is not allowed.

DefCon is always essentially good and positive. All the exploits uncover vulnerabilities either by legal demo, or theoretical on slide presentation. It's an excellent learning experience. Anybody coming off with this "all blackhat" hasn't been there. greyhat yeah, I would say maybe yeah, butr I would say it's prolly greyhat/whitehat/cyber security employees.

*nice ghost*

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Honestly you sound like an autistic sperg, which I guess is a given on Jow Forums.

You talk about the other attendees being degenerates and somehow didn't manage to notice the people giving the talks look exactly like them. I guess you were too much of an aspie to talk to anyone around you, and only overheard conversations the stronk womyn and the actual degenerates were having.

>user goes full autistic snowflake
You seem to think defcon is some sekrit club for l33t hax0rs and autists, and that's it. I can't tell if you've just watched too much of Mr. Robot or some shit, but real world is not like that. Yeah, casuals and posers and dumbfucks attend too, get over it.

Imagine what a retard you'd have to be to not realize that posting on this board means you're flagged4lyf.

Are there more thinkpadlads or macfags at defcon?

I haven't seen many laptops, but the smart phones are mostly androids.

Reminder that defcon is skid central and 99% of the people that go are IT boomers with no real knowledge, the only people who know anything are the ones playing the ctf and their friends

t. salty poorfag who can't afford to go

i have a fetish for smart competent women

it's why I go years without sex, because they're so goddamm rare

>someone posts an actual well thought opinion
>everyone calls him an incel

this is what this place has really become

Just because it's long-form by Jow Forums standards doesn't make it well-thought out. The the wall of text sounds like it's a pasta from Jow Forums.

>Just because it's long-form by Jow Forums standards doesn't make it well-thought out.

have you actually read it or did you just glance at it?

I did actually read it.

i read it to, you sound like a virgin redditor with an average job, stop posting in this board.

Feel free to quote me on the part where I sound like a virgin redditor with an average job.
>inb4 you quote the above
so randum xD

then you should recognise that he actually makes a good point of how defcon should be about the theme that is supposed to be about and not about diversity and pushing woman into tech

If you attend defcon and your takeaway is that it's about diversity and pushing women into tech, I don't know what to tell you except that you need to take your meds.

You take the good with the bad. Who cares about a STRONK WOMYN meetup? You don't have to go there. Yes, it's ridiculous but who fucking cares? There's like 25k+ people there, there are going to be different types of people.

Honestly this kind of myopic demand for homogeneity reminds me of RMS and his absolutely terminal autism.

defcon more like fedcon amrite

if you're not going to cons for the orgies, you're doing it wrong

>autist dont realize conferences are a excuse to have sex with strangers

I bet you think guys make bands to appreciate music too

>Feel free to quote me on the part where I sound like a virgin redditor with an average job.
done

Owned

Need more info on this. Not for participation, just to spectate and cheer the orgy on while assembling my darknet badge.

I haven't read this full threat but here's my take as my 5th Defcon...
Here's the breakdown of attendees:
30% normies
30% freakshow retards
30% IT pros
5% employees and goons
5% skilled hackers and security experts

The goons are a mix of cool people and highly unstable people without social skills who, when given an ounce of control cannot handle it and embarrass themselves, bark orders and prove their inteptitude with every other sentence.

The crowds are ridiculous, so some advance planning helps a ton.

KEY: take the initiative to go talk to 5-10 people who look like they've been around. At least a few will give you soem great insight and help you get the most out of the conference.

It's actually more organized than it used to be. 2 years ago I just left after day 1 it was such a cluster.

read the magazine that comes in the registration packet
Hit the villages, vendor area and chill out room
Know that some things are in different casinos - sit down and do a little planning
Carry cash because some of the crap for sale is cash only
time your meals at off peak times to avoid lines
Give up on "swag" the lines are just ridiculous, unless you're ok with 2 hours wait for a tshirt
Much of the crap for sale can be found online easily

Overlook the hassles, focus on the good stuff and you will get a lot out of it.
Look at the mentally defectives as entertainment, or as people with struggles you should be glad you don't have. Many are nicer and have more to offer than you think.

Go listen to Soma FM if you want to hear the live music from the Chill Out room, from anywhere in the world. somafm.com

The 101 panel was pretty lol, I enjoyed it. I'm not sure what wall of text user was expecting.

A room with 50 people being instructed by Lord Nikon, Acid Burn and Zero Cool on how to hack the planet.

Let me know when its time for hacker jeopardy.

lmao

I am there and not at the same time user.

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Wasn't defcon cancelled?

you might be thinking of HOPE, which isn't officially canceled but the hotel told them that they effectively arent wanted back

Those recordings of Chinese Defcon cringed me so hard.
Please don't do this again. Many people will be suicidal after watching these.

This, please

Is there any live streaming of talks?