Want help? >State budget & CURRENCY >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs based on current pricing >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on most mobos with the right BIOS) >R3 2200G - Minimum 30-60fps gaming. The stronger 3400G sells for $150. (R3K APUs OCs better than R2K) >R5 2600 - 60fps+ gaming CPU with great value >R5 3600 - Great gaming CPU >R7 3700X - Overkill gaming CPU >R7 1700X - Budget production >R9 3900X - Professional tasks
RAM >Do not use a single DIMM. 2 sticks for a typical dual channel CPU >CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 3200CL16 or Micron E-die ("AES" in P/N) recommended >AMD B & X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP >B-die is EOL, stock is limited
GPUs based on current pricing 1080p >RX 570/580 8GB - Can be found on sale/used for cheap. Look for 570s which are >1240MHz boost >(GTX 1660TI @ ~$230/Vega56 @ ~$270) - higher fps / more demanding games >RX 5700 - higher FPS 1440p >RX 5700 - standard, 75-100FPS+ >RX 5700XT - higher fps 2160p (4K) >RTX 2070S OC - budget option. Turing scales better into 4K than Navi does. OR upscale from lower resolution with RIS >2080Ti - best for 4K but expensive
>Navi AIB models come within a week. 5700 non-XT blower is alright, due to low power.
General >Yes, adaptive sync (free/g/sync) is important for gaming >NVMe isn't better than SATA SSD for gaming >Don't use Speccy >Beware sites which rank CPUs by arbitrary, obfuscated scores (eg userbenchmark, passmark, cpuboss) >Beware and report the permaban evading Jow Forums spammer who posts fake benchmarks >AM4 VRMs + Monitors + SSD Guide under "more"
>tries to lie and downplay about being BTFO again, this exactly what I expected from you fags, you never put yourself out there, you just damage control for a company and shitpost when you dont' have an argument.
? the amd shill who was doing damage control didn't admit he was wrong though. They never do, no matter what the evidence.
Kayden Myers
whats the best 2070s available in terms of cooling?
>Had two monitors die yesterday >Only salvation is a 1024x768 monitor that's older than most zoomers on Jow Forums that my cousin's swinging by with today >If that's broke or only accepts VGA, I'm fucked >All the good sales on GPUs were two weeks ago >All the good monitors are $400+
AMD has said multiple times since Zen2 release that they likely won't change socket unless PCIe 5.0 requires it, or some other standard comes that requires a new socket. They even hinted that DDR5 support may not require a new socket. Which makes sense and I've been saying as such for 2 years, as it's the same pin count as DDR4.
I do believe they'll still arbitrarily change it at some point, again as I said, to simply make packaging easier/cheaper.
That said, I wouldn't be surprised if Zen3 is still AM4, that it may require at least a 500 series board.
This person is wrong. You shouldn't be at ~90% of your PSUs load like that. You should have more headroom. 750W is fine. Or maybe just don't get housefire components?
google comparison reviews? Most of us just don't care about irrelevant products. If you need it for CUDA, you don't even care much about cooling.
Carter Garcia
asus. 3 fan. quietest and best thermals. at least that's the conclusion I was able to come to after researching it for nearly a month now.
Jaxon Stewart
>my vega blackscreens and locks up the entire PC >turns out it's a typical thing with AMD drivers youtube.com/watch?v=FQJCm7bnOfU&feature=youtu.be&t=946 Thanks amd, thanks amd shills, thanks all the fine whine memes and muh amd drivers are better. I feel well scammed.
Sebastian Bell
Looking towards an upgrade, up to a Ryzen 3600 on a B450 mobo using Linux (probably mint). Is there any weird incompatibilities/bugs/other I'd have to watch out for using Linux on AMD? Yes, I did use google, but a lot of results seem out of date considering it's a recent release.
Dylan Rodriguez
Probably asus like the pther guy said. Look up revuews for 2080 models, like they exact same coolers
Nolan Myers
thanks anons
Gavin Lewis
I N S T A L L G E N T O O N S T A L L
G E N T O O you fucking shit-stirring copy-pasting Ballmer-schlobering prick.
Jack Myers
My local best buy is doing $349.99 on a 9700k and then an extra $50 for some promotion
Is it worth it at that price?
Carson Bennett
What is a "good monitor" to you?
Isaac Howard
well done AMD brother, we must shitpost all that critisize AMD! After we are done with this infidel, we should bomb Steve from gamers nexus for saying these lies and fake news!
Josiah Brooks
Depends on how much a mobo is.
David Hall
Interesting how well a short little 2 slot cooler cools. The heatsink also seems to be exactly the same as the RX580 Nitro+, just with better fans. Stop evading your ban to spread FUD. Everyone knows you don't use beta drivers for previous gen cards. It was the EXACT same with RTX launch, that RTX beta drivers had tons of problems including on Pascal, faggot.
>Is there any weird incompatibilities/bugs/other I'd have to watch out for using Linux on AMD? Zen1 wise, not at all, it works great. Not sure about Zen2. There were crash errors on the launch BIOS but afaik they're fixed. GNU/Linux general would know better.
Aaron Morgan
>Stop evading your ban to spread FUD. You spam this setence literally any, and every time somebody, anybody points something bad about AMD. I really fucking hate how you can so openly shout to censor people just because your AMD stocks are on the line. But then again from time to time you are so obvious so obnoxious that people report you instead and you get banned, after which we get giant meltdowns about how you think the mods are all intel shills or some shit.
Gabriel Cooper
So $400 total? A new one on amazon is $360 so not sure why you'd want that
Jeremiah White
why don't you return it? it mustn't be that bad if you chose to keep it
Lincoln Hill
amdgpu is better than either companies' Windows drivers. You don't want a solution hen presented one, we already discussed your shit to death last thread, timestamp and all, so the only other reason you have to repost this is to stir shit. Install Gentoo or fuck off.
It's gonna be a great experience. There was a minor rdrand returning a fixed value issue to do with early bioses fucking up, but that's long fixed by now. Best results combined with an AMD GPU, such as the just released custom 5700xt cards.
Are there any white parts for an all white pc build? Can't find any coolers except noctua chromax, the asus prime has the most white parts, there aren't any white 2070 super, the only white psu is from corsair.
Xavier Ross
I did return it, I RMAed and switched it out multiple times thinking maybe it's the hardware that is at fault. But nope, it's the drivers.
>You don't want a solution hen presented one, I can't just fucking switch to gentoo because amd can't make stable drivers that work.
Fuck the whole reason why linux "AMD" drivers are better is because it's something people can fix themselves. Not because AMD did a good job, but because it's open enough for people to fix it. So their biggest contribution is leaving the shit open, not actually making good drivers.
It's like a game is utter unstable shit and then the community makes mods that fix it, and for some reason the company gets all the credit.
I was looking at 1080wide ultrawide memes with 144Hz at 34", but even the not obviously chinky regular 1080p 144Hz 27" monitors are expensive, and the latter would have to be paired with a second monitor to replace what I'd just lost. Ironically, 27" and 1080p are like oil and water, because 1440p monitors are less expensive, but I value my eyesight too much to use one, and my desktop space too much to turn on hidpi settings.
>These drivers are bad >Switch to this, the drivers for your shit are good here >UMM NO SWEATY I CAN'T JUST DO THAT FIRST OF ALL Install Gentoo you fucking mong.
Jaxon Anderson
wait a year. there's a bunch of new display tech on the horizon, including 1440p 240hz ips
Ryan Cox
yes
Charles Gray
How much overkill 5700xt is for 1080p gaming compared to 5700?
Have everything else in my new pc figured out except GPU, processor is going to be ryzen 3600. Just thinking how much im shooting myself on the foot by saving some € by not taking xt-card.
Benjamin Gonzalez
Is there any ETA yet on when the MSI B450 max motherboards are coming out?
Christian Ward
>1440p 240hz ips as if anyone can afford a gpu that can do 240fps @ 1440p
>use an OS that competely doesn't fufill your needs >but at least your GPU wont crash your entire system Brilliant dilemmasc of being a vega owner.
Jaxson Anderson
I want the 5700 XT Pulse but god it looks ugly
Daniel Foster
Is the gigabyte Vega 56 gaming good? Its 290€ and its the only card available at a decent price. Should I buy it or is gigabyte still shit?
Eli Cooper
If you had "needs", you would have bought a Quadro or AMD equivalent. You are playing video games. Install Gentoo.
William Edwards
When Nvidia had shit drivers for months after RTX launch, no one cared. Just said to wait a while to buy them, and for Pascal cards to continue using 3## drivers until the drivers are fixed. But when AMD has the same launch driver problems, it's >EVIL AMD EVERYONE MUST KNOW DONT BUY THEM DONT USE OLD DRIVERS because you faggots are literally paid lying shills.
NO. It's complete shit. One guy has returned one 30+ times and keeps getting other defective ones sent back. It's defective by design, non-reference model. Gigabyte is RETARDED and makes faulty cards like that all the time.
It's similar to the 1080Ti.
Wait for the new one that can be upgraded with dGPU imo. But if you get a good sale on Hades Canyon, go for it.
I'd imagine the MSI Evoke will perform just as well, if not better, if you're looking for a 2 slot dual fan card.
Landon Moore
It looks alright from the side, just go for it
Joshua Campbell
>but I value my eyesight too much to use one If you can't use 2560x1440 on a 27" monitor your eyesight is either gone already or you're not choosing a monitor of appropriate size for your view distance.
Levi Rivera
Gigabyte is shit. I assume you want a card for 1440p gaming right?
Angel Rodriguez
no nigger it's utter trash,there's a reason why they're so cheap
its just the latest meme, it'll chill out in 5 years or so
Asher Green
Probably going to wait but the Hades Canyon is about what I need and would clear up some space over an old Thinkpad I'm using as a desktop.
Dylan Johnson
I'm so tired of waiting for aib bros...
Jackson Cruz
>because you faggots are literally paid lying shills. Except old games work fine on Nvidia and have for years, since the day they came out. AMD drivers STILL have not fixed old games and very likely never will. Mean while you will shill fine whine daily to innocent people who haven't had to deal with this AMDs bullshit.
Jacob Phillips
please, don't get vega, don't fall for it
William Parker
i'm able to get a good aftermarket 980ti for around 200 euros with 6 month warranty even. is it still worth it for 1080p? currently running a 680 sli and i think i could still get a year or two from my 3930k based pc with a small gpu upgrade.
Jason Kelly
not him, but if i'm paying 400$+ for a GPU it certainly not in order to play games from the 90's so i don't get this complaint
Robert Long
I have a 27" 1080p monitor at work and it's really easy on the eyes. If I was going 1440p I'd want a bigger diagonal size for that anyway. I'm not buying a 1440p monitor just to switch from readable 8pt bitmap fonts to fuckhuge Hidpi TTF fonts, robbing me of any gained desktop space from the res bump.
Anyway, I've come to an epiphany. Hardware isn't gonna get better. We've hit a fucking wall a few years ago. Wanna shrink process node? Enjoy your lower frequencies. So, yeah, unless some major breakthrough happens, NVidia will be re-re-re-re-launching a 1080Ti in 4 years.
Noah Thomas
They can always increase die size for year-over-year improvements. It's the way they artificially limit progress, by using smaller-than-necessary dies (so they can take a year off and use a large die)
Angel Sanchez
Fuck damn it. I'll have to visit some store to check if they have the sapphire pulse. I just want to get one to play on FHD 60+ for the next 5 years at least.
Noah Miller
That card is overkill for 1080p 60 fps. Just get an rx580 for like $200.
Ryan Thompson
You heard me.
Joseph Rogers
580 wont last 5+ years it's on its last legs
Christopher Nguyen
>Increase die size. See, the problem we're starting to see is that all the heat is getting to a smaller area that is harder to cool. It's been a trend forever, fuck I remeber heatsink-less cpus. So a solution to this would be having a massive gpu/cpu, where parts disable themselves regularly to spread heat equally. But I'm starting to wonder if that's not what they've been doing already.
Brandon Nguyen
But I want an overkill card. Now its overkill but in 4 years it will be a mid range 1080p card and I don't have the budget to swap GPUs. Its an all in for me.
>they can always increase die size That's literally what they've been doing. For all the praise turing recieves, they still need larger dies to compete with much smaller dies from amd.
Cameron Baker
you've been at it with autistic persistence for months, and everyone can see when it is you. you are not convincing anyone by being overly aggressive and overly dedicated just like that one brazilian and a tripfag we all know here.
Caleb Evans
8pt bitmap fonts are perfectly and easily readable on a 27" 2560x1440 screen with no hi-DPI scaling, at the view distances the monitor is intended to be used at. Nobody uses hi-DPI scaling for 2560x1440 because it's not needed, the DPI is just slightly above the old standard of 96 and no scaling is required.
If you can't read it, you may actually need to get glasses.
>Curved No
Henry Diaz
>it's on it's last legs >nvidia literally released cards this year to compete with it hmmm
Josiah Ramirez
>VA oof
Joshua Thompson
Is AMD gonna fix the high multimonitor power draw of Navi or is it a "feature"?
Matthew Phillips
>to compete with it more like to fill the SKU for turbo poorfags that can't get a 2060 non super
Evan Reed
Don't get an ultrashort monitor, ffs. I'd rather have 1920x1200@75 than 2560x1080@144. Something is wrong with you if you can tolerate so few horizontal lines. Also, your post doesn't make sense as the other user pointed out.
Vertical slim cases will actually use less room. You can make a Thermaltake G3 build for cheap since they can use ATX boards.
the red dragon and arez strix are also good. asus strix is fine if you fix the thermal pad issue yourself. You can also wait a month or two for the RX 5600/XT. It won't be quite as powerful, but it should be using barely over half the power.
Anyway, really poor value anyway. It's generally going to be cheaper to buy the RX 570 now, then in 2 or 3 years buy the "RX 6600" or "4060" after it's also been price dropped low like the 570 currently is. Case in point: you can currently buy two RX 570 for the price of Vega 56. 580 is surely going to stop getting specific game driver optimizations when the small RDNA card comes out.
The 1060 was never able to defeat the 580 back then. But today the 580 can't even play most games at max settings. Its the borderline 1080p card. Anything lower than that its shit.
Nolan Williams
>1440p >144hz with freesync >10bit ips >hdr support >600 euros thoughts? cant seem to find anything in that price point to compete. i dont like the gamer aesthetics but thankfully they are on the back and wont show.
I'm getting myself 27" IPS LG monitor. Wanted the 34" one, but it has (((G-Sync))) in it with a freaking fan.
Liam Turner
meh, waiting for when either FALD becomes cheap or dual layer LCD become available and not draw 200w
Liam Flores
>Implying there still aren't retards that buy shit like 1030, 1050/ti lel. Keep coping with your doa cards.
Asher Turner
>they are on the back and wont show. I got a table in a middle of the room for light reflection purposes, I would feel a little sick walking in my room.
Benjamin Clark
I'll try to check alternative models for the Vega 56 or even get a 5700 (if it ever comes close to 300€ maybe the reference model will?) >Case in point: you can currently buy two RX 570 for the price of Vega 56. How's crossfire these days? Is it worth it or there's still problems with games and stuttering?
for anything below 32" youd fall for a giant meme buying into one
Evan Smith
>red dragon think you meant red devil red dragon is low tier
Isaac Garcia
What if you, like any pc player want to play both new games and old classics? Why can't AMD get their shit together and provide that? Why can Nvidia do that on the other hand?
Juan Butler
Again, if the raw performance were everything, the 5700xt would be cannibalising Nvidias range just like Zen 2 has made everything below a 9900k redundant.
Clearly, something must be wrong here, there's got to be a reason actual demand is fairly lackluster and even AMD is looking more towards big Navi.
Camden Green
Yes, 2-3 times more than similar Nvidia cards is relatively high.
