He doesn't buy an AMD 5700XT

Joseph Foster
Joseph Foster

he doesn't buy an AMD 5700XT

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John Fisher
John Fisher

Yes, I'm not a degenerative fanboy. And?

Lucas Martinez
Lucas Martinez

I already have a Vega 56 Pulse. I can only give so much money to Sapphire.

Kayden Richardson
Kayden Richardson

mid range 400, sorry amd

Mason Hall
Mason Hall

its not fanboyism, it beeats out 2070 super HHAHA

Cameron Evans
Cameron Evans

I have no need to upgrade from my 1060 right now

Kayden Collins
Kayden Collins

I have a 1080Ti thanks.

Easton Myers
Easton Myers

Are the third party cards out yet?

Connor Long
Connor Long

techpowerup.com/258228/110-c-hotspot-temps-expected-and-within-spec-amd-on-rx-5700-series-thermals

Buying AYYMD 110C HOUSEFIRES

Asher Wright
Asher Wright

How bad are the drivers? Also it instantly sold out so i couldnt if i wanted to

Luke Phillips
Luke Phillips

You trying to imply the 5700 xt on average is faster than a 2070s is very clearly fanboyism

Asher Ross
Asher Ross

Who cares about the average, it's faster in games that matter now, and won't be gimped by drivers once newer cards come out.

Jacob Lewis
Jacob Lewis

This must be b8

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Kayden Murphy
Kayden Murphy

2070s is way more money you fucking retard and the amd gets close to it. 5700xt is the best deal right now and 590 is best for the mid range. and anyone who buys a 2080ti is retarded.

Sebastian Lewis
Sebastian Lewis

Im trying to, they havent been put on sale yet.

Wyatt Ortiz
Wyatt Ortiz

he isn't waiting for big navi
It's almost like you don't want a futureproof GPU.

Parker Morgan
Parker Morgan

higher transistor density means hotter hotspots
How do I into physics?!

Noah Roberts
Noah Roberts

goal post moving
590
Fanboyism

Nathan Jenkins
Nathan Jenkins

what was the goal? amd has the better video cards for the money at all segments, low end, mid range, and high end. 2080ti is retard range you can have that win.

Parker Long
Parker Long

not a degenerative fanboy
he's a blower lad

Carter Perez
Carter Perez

2080s is going to be better for 1440 than 5700xt especially 3440x1440p. 5700xt is a great card and if I wasn't 21:9 I'd maybe get it but 2080 makes sense for some builds. This is coming from a red dragon Vega 56 owner.

Colton Anderson
Colton Anderson

an overpriced rip off card is going to perform better than a card that costs less
wow stop the presses. 2080ti/2080super is a rip off card for retards unless they drop the price massively in the near future to match the others. that garbage 2080s still only has 8gb of vram.

Nathan Reyes
Nathan Reyes

I guess you can't really argue with stupid fanboys. Have fun with that

Luis Martin
Luis Martin

Who cares about the average

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Camden Davis
Camden Davis

Too expensive, I'll get a RX580 instead.

Andrew Morris
Andrew Morris

$800 card performs better than $400 card
What a fucking surprise

Jaxon Williams
Jaxon Williams

stupid fanboys
its double the price of 5700xt and the same vram. it certainly is not worth double the price.

Samuel Williams
Samuel Williams

cant wait a month for it to arrive in my shithole

Camden Perez
Camden Perez

AIB isn't $400 and you can get a 2080 or super for less than $800, obviously. Nice try tho. And like I said >1440, 21:9
Imagine having a $700+ monitor then trying to save under $250 for a video card and costing yourself performance. This is what Jow Forums actually tries to argue though cause they're full of shit.

Luis Ross
Luis Ross

you can get good 1440p monitors for $350 and a $400 video card that runs it just fine. and yes, the sapphire AIB 5700XT is $410

Benjamin Foster
Benjamin Foster

You can also get great ultrawide monitors and more expensive regular 1440p. Point is some different cards make sense for different builds and focus and not everything is a penny pinching contest. These arguments without specific context are fake and gay

Juan Anderson
Juan Anderson

Imagine having a $700+ monitor
I don't need to imagine anything, I'm not a larping poorfag like you.

Logan Morris
Logan Morris

Nice comeback!

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Robert Baker
Robert Baker

you can buy an overpriced card if you want,theres no alternative after all. just dont try to claim that its a good idea for people who want a fair priced product.

Isaac Ward
Isaac Ward

Right now im on 3440x1440p with 75hz freesync. Love the Vega 56 for it, its been a great card. My goal in the future is probably to get higher hz and low response time 3440x1440p, and as much as I wanted the 5700xt to be an ideal card for that, its not.. And I wouldn't stress over the ~$200 between graphics cards at that point when I upgrade. 5700xt is badass but its not like there isn't a place for a 2080 where its still a practical purchase.

Evan Gonzalez
Evan Gonzalez

Why don't overclocks scale anymore? With GCN2.0 you pretty much had linear performance increase with OC now you're lucky if you get 3% higher performance out of a 10% frequency OC

Christian Morales
Christian Morales

Sounds standard. Does no one remember the foundry edition memes?

Jackson Parker
Jackson Parker

Seems like a cute card, OP, really it does, But I had significantly better performance for 18 months already.

Connor Rivera
Connor Rivera

Why would I buy some AMD trash that can't outperform my last gen nvidia GPU?

Levi Robinson
Levi Robinson

This post was brought to you by a the Fermi Housefire shill brigade. Remember, it's okay when AMD does it!

Leo Evans
Leo Evans

use reference blower cooler
extreme gpu test
surprised blower cooler can't keep up

Cooper Lopez
Cooper Lopez

I have a 2080 Super.

Ian Bell
Ian Bell

Why would I buy a 5700XT when Intel GPUs are coming out next year?

Logan Cook
Logan Cook

Holy shit these threads are sad to read.

Gabriel Cox
Gabriel Cox

It's better than 450, and at least your not also being fucked by 250 dollar locked quadcores and expensive ram

Carson Scott
Carson Scott

Why should I care if it can meet the temps without long term damage?

Xavier Hernandez
Xavier Hernandez

Some, I saw the sapphire one one newegg last night, sold out. No idea if it was updated yet.

Ryder Fisher
Ryder Fisher

My 580 is still good enough, theres no point in spending more than $200 on a gpu in 2019

Hudson Powell
Hudson Powell

hexus.net/media/uploaded/2019/8/c01b4af4-43cb-4a76-a67a-d08a685ae80f.png
He doesn't know
Radeon GPUs are not only bad but also terrible budget wise.
Also not posting actual pictures myself because Hiro been trying to jew Bongs into Jow Forums pass by banning ip ranges from posting pictures due to "abuse".

Tyler Rodriguez
Tyler Rodriguez

I'm not a hardcore gaymer so a RX 570 8GB i enough for me.

Though I have my doubts if the 8GB on this card can ever actually be used for anything.

Jaxon Ramirez
Jaxon Ramirez

I'm team waiting forever and Navi is an existing product which means it's no longer cool enough for me.

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Hudson Morris
Hudson Morris

expensive ram
Ummm actually if you're not a retard and want to squeeze all the performance from your CPU Zen processors are very sensitive to actual timings and frequencies of your memory modules so if anything AMD requires more expensive memory if you know what you're doing instead of cheapest corsair kits.

Jackson Sanders
Jackson Sanders

High five my Just Wait™ brother!

Wyatt Stewart
Wyatt Stewart

Looks like the one single GPU fans OEM figured out static pressure optimization and every GPU cooler has it now. What a time to be alive.

Elijah Flores
Elijah Flores

waiting for it to work on linux

Nolan Garcia
Nolan Garcia

5700XT or 2070S?

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Nicholas King
Nicholas King

Respond pls I seriously think in leafland the difference is gonna be less than 200$.

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Blake Roberts
Blake Roberts

doesn't know the difference between hot spot and edge temps

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Ayden Rodriguez
Ayden Rodriguez

The difference in performance is worth like 30$ (and that's being generous). The actual price difference is $100+.
5700XT is the obvious winner.

Carter Roberts
Carter Roberts

Yes we buy AMD products how could you tell

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Connor Watson
Connor Watson

It's 450 euros in my country, same price as a regular 2070. I don't care about raytracing but it neither seems like a worthwhile upgrade over my 1070 for 4k.

Evan Hall
Evan Hall

this
plus I clocked mine at around 5700 levels anyway so it's whatever

Noah Wilson
Noah Wilson

The fat stax from all the money they saved

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Tyler Green
Tyler Green

But indians buy intel.

Brayden Miller
Brayden Miller

But indians buy Intel.

Robert Ross
Robert Ross

I mean no shit
it just came out

Levi Garcia
Levi Garcia

Ahhh, the obligatory "X is better than Y" thread. I also love AMD and have recently bought a 5700 XT, but this post wasn't very convincing.

inb4 ayyyyyymd is worse than nvidio

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Alexander Kelly
Alexander Kelly

Using more temperature probes so you can clock higher without damage
If Nvidia did this and marketed it as "Ultra OC Thermal Technology" you would praise it like it was free blowjobs and beer

Aiden Nguyen
Aiden Nguyen

Even a decent 3000 Mhz 32GB kit with decent timings is about the same price that an equivalent 16GB kit was a year ago

Charles Parker
Charles Parker

No. I've started to realize there is a huge Indian population on Jow Forums, this explains everything from AMD shilling to people who use Linux as a desktop OS.

Jason Garcia
Jason Garcia

aahhh the obligatory why are people discussing GPUs on a board about tech post

Ian Ross
Ian Ross

You'd be a degenerative fanboy to not consider 5700XT. It beats Rtx2070 for $100 less

Thomas Edwards
Thomas Edwards

I got a 2080, no thanks

James Torres
James Torres

I bought an rx570 on january so I dont need to replace it

Daniel Fisher
Daniel Fisher

I've bought 1070 for $550 once and I'm not getting memed by those ridiculous GPU prices again.

Jacob Lee
Jacob Lee

2080s is going to be better for 1440 than 5700xt
a more expensive card is going to perform slightly better
Is this how retarded nvidiots actually are ?

Michael White
Michael White

I got scammed by buying a gsync monitor. It was $270 for a dell 27" 1440p 144hz gsync monitor in early 2018.
The 5700XT is the only card worth having but i don't want to have to buy a new monitor and selling monitors is hopeless.
Every single nvidia card from pascal on is and will forever be so locked down that you would have to be an idiot to buy one. I'd rather have the 5700xt than a 2080ti because the radeon will do what I tell it to.
Its a shame because I wanted to love the 1080ti(fuck Turing half the die is wasted) but its just too locked down.

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Angel Cox
Angel Cox

The 5700XT is a $250 gpu in a competitive market. Do NOT buy a card right now unless you absolutely have to and even then go for a miners 570/580/1070 to bide time.
2080ti perf should be about $400 and when the market corrects you will hate yourself for buying a $400 5700xt, a 2080ti, or anything else

Wyatt Russell
Wyatt Russell

the fuck do you care what I buy?
what do you get out of it?

I wish company wars threads were just auto moved to /trash/

Luke Anderson
Luke Anderson

Middle will never be $200 again, inflation is a thing after all. But still the reasonable price for a 5700 XT would be $300, not $450 (which will turn into $600 outside US).

Caleb Moore
Caleb Moore

I have a 1060.
Call me in like 4 years.

Chase King
Chase King

XT costs like 500 € here so no thanks. Overpriced shit like 2060S suddenly looks like great value kek.

Jeremiah Davis
Jeremiah Davis

Paper launch so fuck off shill

Ian Johnson
Ian Johnson

AIB isn't $400
ok it's 410
2080 or super for less than $800
ok it's 750
you are still a retard comparing 2 different price categories

Oliver Scott
Oliver Scott

shill give me a good reason to buy your product?

Tyler Diaz
Tyler Diaz

really depends if you want to spend an extra 100$ for like 8 fps more

Levi Reyes
Levi Reyes

It's 450 euros in my country, same price as a regular 2070
yeah but it's faster than a 2070
4k
no card except the 2080ti does 4k

Grayson White
Grayson White

Middle will never be $200 again

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Ian Hall
Ian Hall

Inflation might push it to 250 but yeah the only reasons the performance is about what it should be and price is double is lack of competition.
In a competitive market if the 2080ti were to be $700 then it would be the same gigantic die size but with 100% of it dedicated to rasterization with hbm2. That would make it easily twice as fast as the 14nm gddr6 $1200 piece of garbage it is.
With AMD actually making money, nvidia feeling the fuck up of Turing, and Intel entering the market I think we will see competition again.

Bentley Harris
Bentley Harris

The reason nvidia went with bullshit instead of rasterization is that they didn't want to fuck themselves up into a corner like intel did with 2500k once. They didn't want to make a card they couldn't easily beat themselves but still had to introduce a gimmick to gimp older cards.

Brandon Long
Brandon Long

2080ti cannot into 4k either. It is advertised to handle DLSS "4k" which is in fact ugly upscaled 1440p. If you want upscale, you might as well get a 5700 xt for it as AMDs sharpening filter does wonders.

Easton Ortiz
Easton Ortiz

its barely makes it sure
4k is a meme for now anyway

Ryan Hughes
Ryan Hughes

is xfx a good brand? I've always had nvidia so the amd cards are all new to me. about to upgrade my 1060 6gb to a 5700xt

Easton Lee
Easton Lee

can't buy anything until monday
sapphire already sold out everywhere
powercolo comes out thursday and probably will sell out everywhere within 24 hours too
don't really want the non-thicc version of the XFX card
ASUS
MSI
Gigabyte
ASRock
HIS
Fucking christ I don't want to wait til September I need to replace my broken GPU now

Adam Williams
Adam Williams

It's too long for my case matx tower

Anthony Thompson
Anthony Thompson

It's funny that the AMD exclusive companies have a better reputation than those companies that don't

Dominic James
Dominic James

Now read the rest where I mention 3440x1440p idiot

Wyatt Martinez
Wyatt Martinez

Imagine having a $700+ monitor then trying to save under $250 for a video card and costing yourself performance. This is what Jow Forums actually tries to argue though cause they're full of shit.
Right over your fucking head. And I'm saying 5700xt is a great card and you guys still have to bitch like NO ITS THE ONLY CARD
Ridiculous

Ryan Brooks
Ryan Brooks

if you think 8% more performance is worth an extra $90(its not) go ahead.

Ian Gray
Ian Gray

But the drivers are broken. Or am i wrong? Can a coping 5700xt blower fanboy refute this for me? Is it good to go?

Parker Walker
Parker Walker

AIB cards cost between 490-590€ here
2070 Super starts from 560€, non shit models sit around 600€

This pricing is fucking retarded. It's like they don't want people to buy AMD.
There's now like 50€ difference between a good 5700 XT model and an ok 2070 Super.
Hell, you can buy an overpriced waterblock and slap it on the 5700 XT reference model and it's still 10€ cheaper than the fucking Asus Strix.
Worst part is that people are going to buy the shit out of these cards at these prices.

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Thomas Price
Thomas Price

5700 XT has no raytracing

I mean.....

Nathan Collins
Nathan Collins

Ohhhhh yet another CPUfag thread. How useful and interesting! Fanboi fucking circle jerk niggotry. Great.

Mods, can we please, once and for all, just get four pinned threads. One for each of the following:

- Browsers
- CPUs
- Distros
- Shitposting about trannies and sjwfags and whatever other trends are getting people all riled up in tech

Why the fuck do we need these useless threads every day when they can all be handled with three pinned ones? For fuck sake. Mashallah, as the most valued member of this community, all Jow Forumsentoomen know that I am correct, and that my words are beyond reproach. Please, modulators and janissaries, do the needful.

Noah Taylor
Noah Taylor

No.
user, all the top selling processors in India, ALL of them, are intel

Jason Brooks
Jason Brooks

I have one, vram usage gets up to 7Gb in Fallout 4.

Nicholas Allen
Nicholas Allen

I have one, vram usage gets up to 7Gb in Fallout 4
and it will get up to 3.5gb in a 4gb vram card
games just use what is available its not an indicator of an minimum

Nicholas Jenkins
Nicholas Jenkins

no HBM no buy

Noah Anderson
Noah Anderson

I wish I hadn't.
I have to use a specific version of the firmware with a kernel branched from one of the AMD driver writers and git versions of llvm and mesa. And even then I get crashes in games, I have to reboot 20 times a day between the crashes and the fucking piece of shit mobo/CPU/whatever that reboots to a black screen and after realizing it's not coming back on its own I have to reboot it again with the physical button.

What a fucking shitshow. I was comfy with my 8320 and 970, I just had to go and think I should buy the latest hardware just because I'm a wagekek. At least I can say, that the extra shit I need compiles fast with 24 logical cores and *when* the GPU is working it keeps Overwatch at a buttery smooth constant 144 FPS even though I'm running it through DXVK.

Maybe I should just play single player games while they stabilize this crap.

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Tyler Martin
Tyler Martin

Lol did you guy one of those shitty fury cards and this is how you cope? Hbm is a waste of money

Kayden Brooks
Kayden Brooks

Did you compile llvm with gcc or clang (with -O3 and LTO)?

Joshua Reyes
Joshua Reyes

I think the PKGBUILD I first used builds with gcc, but I didn't pay attention and now I'm using binary packages from someone else since it also hosts a frequently updated mesa-git.
Right now I only have to compile the kernel myself.

Jordan Peterson
Jordan Peterson

fuck sake now I'm even more pissed off about sapphire being out of stock everywhere

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Daniel Thompson
Daniel Thompson

There's nothing to play that needs it though. There's no point in shilling cards if there's no games that need them.

Easton Carter
Easton Carter

Try checking. The later clang lto build is about 12x faster in normal compile test and eliminated the stuttering issues caused by shader compiles I was having with proton.

When gcc is being build it does a hacky scripted "bootstrapping" of itself, but llvm doesn't do that and since all its associated tools need to be build the exact same way for them to function correctly it kinda is a pita to compile llvm and then compile it again with itself. Thus unfortunatelly many builds of llvm tend to be just made with system default gcc and be terribly slow

Isaac Collins
Isaac Collins

jowforums.com/thread/72313142/technology
Fuck off Amd shills

Carson Collins
Carson Collins

Looking at the elf comment section, the repo binaries are compiled with gcc 9. I don't think it's a bootstrapping issue, the repo I'm using is 3rd party but the package is probably just following system defaults.

Regardless, thanks for the heads up user, I will give it a try. Exporting CC=$(where clang) and CXX=$(where clang++) before running cmake should be enough, right? Or do I have to manually specify llvm linkers and so on? I'm more of a high level pleb, I only know enough Make to run phony targets.

Christian Martin
Christian Martin

You need to do far more than just a simple CC= if you want to LTO it as well. llvm.org had somewhere in its documentations a general guideline how to bootstrap with lto. On gentoo this was quite simple as I just do a custom env that has everything needed defined and have all the seperate llvm packages use that (and do a bit of build, build with new settings but don't install, install all at once juggling when installing it for the first time)

Ryder Young
Ryder Young

Specifically all these are set in my build with clang/llvm env

CC="clang"
CXX="clang++"
AR="llvm-ar"
NM="llvm-nm"
RANLIB="llvm-ranlib"
CFLAGS="-O3 -march=native -pipe -flto=thin"
CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"
LDFLAGS="-fuse-ld=lld -Wl,--thinlto-jobs=16 -Wl,--as-needed"

Levi Sanders
Levi Sanders

Not just using an ex miner 580 8gb that you bought cheap as fuck and repasted.

Christian Morales
Christian Morales

Lol

Andrew Baker
Andrew Baker

397 euros vs 338 for a ref
Nope.

Joseph Hall
Joseph Hall

Thank you user, I'll try those. I had a Python exception for some reason when trying to compile with a similar set of flags and then the fucking system hung when compiling to gcc when testing if git tip was actually compilable in the first place. I blame Poozen 3000.

Kayden Young
Kayden Young

Is the 1080ti still the card to beat?

Connor Scott
Connor Scott

buying xfx
ever

Christopher Cook
Christopher Cook

nope, 2080ti

Brody Taylor
Brody Taylor

Is this the THICC or the non Thick ver? doesn't it get 101c on some other AIB'c cards? i heard AMD issue an statement that this is """totally safe and fine"""""

William Martinez
William Martinez

buying the first gen of any new tech
thanks for making shit cheaper I guess

Jose Powell
Jose Powell

using stock coolers ever
not strictly buying a GPU and a PCB

Leo Phillips
Leo Phillips

20 games that most surely nobody will play
thinks its a good metric

so if i play lets say 5 out of 25 does that means the 25 average matter most than the 5 average I PLAY?

Caleb Morgan
Caleb Morgan

stop being a brainlet and make responsible decision after looking through ALL the graphs from every outlet you know and comparing them
and no, 2 or 4 fps difference means it's teh same performance. heck even 8fps is same performance depending on game, specially open world because a lot of things happen randomly in the game

Jaxon Reyes
Jaxon Reyes

I would if it can mine ethereum

Noah Lopez
Noah Lopez

that's the one, can tell by that silver bezel on PCB

Nathan Murphy
Nathan Murphy

I only game at 1080p on a 60Hz monitor. What possible reason would I need to upgrade my RX 570?

Carson Perez
Carson Perez

Hiro been trying to jew Bongs into Jow Forums pass by banning ip ranges from posting pictures due to "abuse".
Yup. Considering another Chan desu, but since infinity got kike'd I'm out of luck

Daniel Diaz
Daniel Diaz

So, apparently the AIBs are shit.
What should I buy to cool the VRMs if I go Accelero 4 route?

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Mason Nelson
Mason Nelson

I can't get locked 60 fps on ace combat 7.
Rx 570 4gb 1400mhz, 2050mhz vram.

Also, try oc your monitor to 75hz.

Matthew Martinez
Matthew Martinez

Why would if I already own pic related?

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Dominic Ross
Dominic Ross

you already overpaid so you do not need to pay more.

William Harris
William Harris

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Jonathan Edwards
Jonathan Edwards

Waiting until the end of the month then going to do a full system upgrade, will be grabbing one just going to see what AIB variant is best. Upgrading from a 2500k at 4.5ghz/r9 290x 4gb (blower cooler which runs hot and loud). Hopefully will be upgrading to a r7 3700x and 5700XT.

Julian Rodriguez
Julian Rodriguez

overpaid for a 1080ti
You are fucking retarded.

Landon Bell
Landon Bell

If I wanted to burn my house down I just get a GTX 480.

Also work on your English you mutt, your grammar is third world level.

Ayden Torres
Ayden Torres

obnoxious bongs getting greek pill
nice going, Hiro--san

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David Reyes
David Reyes

i want that panda one so i can mount it vertically

Jayden Murphy
Jayden Murphy

i just don't see the point when my two 980tis still work fine and i can usually finagle SLI compatibility bits to some degree
next time i'm just going to buy the top-of-the-line card instead of going dual GPU
so i'm waiting for the 5900 cards that are supposedly coming out

Jacob Parker
Jacob Parker

yeston cards are unironically cute as hell but i'm worried about getting fucked over

Alexander Myers
Alexander Myers

I just bought a new 2080 in clearance for 400, so no, I don't.

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