Is Intel dying?

I'd say its a safe bet that AMD is going to try to keep focusing on IPC instead of pushing clocks higher. I don't think 4 way SMT has much chance of materializing though. Sure it may be technically possible, but it'd be an enormous headache for anything not extremely well threaded. The 2nd logical thread on each Zen core can provide 38%~ uplift, threads 3 and 4 might only offer 15% and then 10% or lower. Scheduling anything to those threads would be killing performance unless every other core and thread were utilized already. The usage case outside of enterprise is just far too niche to be worth the power draw.

aren't some people talking about a magical hardware scheduler though
not that I buy into it, the 4way smt sounds weird to me

It's a sterelization party. Food is for the amateur surgeons.

People always hype up shit that never exists/happens. Thats how the entire Bulldozer family came to disappoint everyone with each iteration.

give me the rundown on this image

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>The usage case outside of enterprise is just far too niche to be worth the power draw.
They use the same core chiplets on epyc, ryzen, and soon(?) threadripper.
If they choose to add SMT4 then it'll probably be for the server market and later trickle down to ryzen but only for the R9 and maybe R7 if they feel generous.

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>RyZeN rEmAiNs FaStEr
>Even a 7700k outperforms the new Ryzen in any practical application
Really makes you think.

no, theyre just getting started!

as a political organization

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Only in the desktop and server markets.

18 cores? Good lord.

Till AMD releases a cheap Atom/Celeron tier CPU for cheap.

Why would Intel be dying when it outperforms AMD in FPS in the most popular games. Don't make me bring out the graphs

Because nobody wants to pay $2000 for a CPU when there is a $400-800 option that is almost as good and does the job.

by how much in 144p sir
sir how much more AVX-512 code should we put into games please sir my family is starving sir

Someone please post the list of things that don't matter to Intel anymore.

Ever play an RTS game where you get resource-locked or forget to develop something in the tech-tree, and get stalled for several minutes as you modernize your infrastructure again?
That's Intel.

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Enjoy your 15 fps games or slower rendering because it doesnt matter if you have 8 more threads and they're still shit :)

Sunny cope is good but it should have come out years ago instead of coffeelake. Then again 14nm should have been 8cores from the start as well, imagine if skylake was 8cores, desktop ryzen 1000 would have landed flat and then followed soon after by a 14nm sunny cove. Sure enterprise would still goto zen2, it just wouldn't be so tilted as it is now.

Only until the current contracts with the OEMs run out.

>>RyZeN rEmAiNs FaStEr
>>Even a 7700k outperforms the new Ryzen in any practical application
>Really makes you think.

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>Faster rendering performance
>15fps

3dcenter.org/news/ryzen-3000-launchreviews-die-anwendungs-performance-im-ueberblick
3dcenter.org/news/ryzen-3000-launchreviews-die-spiele-performance-im-ueberblick

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delid dis post sir buy intel ples

Yes of course. Intel will be gone by 2025.

>if skylake was 8cores
Still the same $500 price tag due to ringbus scaling like shit

jesus fucking christ the absolute state

The price is intel never wanting to drop margins that grew when they kept everything at 4core. Nehelam 4cores were over 200mm^2 and skylake 4cores were ~130mm^2.
Ringbus scaling meme is a thing for server chips. 8core rings are okay, when haswell had too many cores in it's high core count dies they had to introduce double ring buses. This caused buffers and extra latency when traversing between rings and introduced numa problems.
Microsoft patched in an update to windows that allowed it to recognise 2 NUMA nodes per socket to help with this ringbus mess.
Funnily enough that same patch also made windows see the 2990wx as a max of 2NUMA nodes instead of 4 which was what caused the performance problems at it's launch.

I don't know why Jow Forums gets their panties in a bunch over this stuff. The market doesn't give a fuck how 'inclusive' a company is. If hiring unqalified personnel for the sake of inclusiveness renders them uncompetitive, they'll either soon go back to meritocracy or they will die.

lol, how naive.

Enjoy getting eaten by China.

thats an over simplified way of putting the consequences. what if theyre the only company that makes a certain thing you enjoy? then the thing you enjoy is shit and there is no alternative. and no one said the market gives a shit, even though it actually sometimes does. people post this because they know its the infection that keeps tearing companies apart and they want to laugh about it or expose it. youre not really enlightened, stop thinking so highly of yourself.

AMD has the superior product once a decade. The rest of the time Intel is always the superior and more expensive choice.
Now it's obviously that time for AMD and only a fool would buy an Intel processor at the moment.

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there women. That's all they have in common

Except there are alternatives, so they can get fucked if they decide to poison themselves.

>stating the obvious is enlightenment

Jeffrey Epstein had the blue prints for their new processors now that he's gone Intel will go belly up.

Save this

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These are people. They exist.
Why do some celebrate this?
Why do others get angry?

What the actual fuck

can't believe AMD killed him.

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>AMD has the superior product once a decade
Except for gaming, which composes most of the mainstream market. Literally no point in getting a ryzen given intel's superior offerings such as the 9400f (best price to performance) and the 9700k (second best gaming CPU in the world).

oh no no no no no no no

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>Why do others get angry?
try actually reading the post then you'll know why someone would get angry about it. "culture of inclusion" implies theyre hiring people based on diversity and not on skill. being an epic centrist doesnt make you enlightened.

AMD has always been the CPU for non-gaming. Even Bulldozer was like that.

imagine actually believing this

>>RyZeN rEmAiNs FaStEr
>>Even a 7700k outperforms the new Ryzen in any practical application
>Really makes you think.

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Too bad Intel gets BTFO in CSGO

Bulldozer 8c always came out ahead in workstations, just not gaming.

Imagine 3700x beating 9900k

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anandtech.com/bench/product/2255?vs=2520
Pick literally any 720p bench.

My benchmark > your benchmark

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>2019
>720p
I'm sorry are you gaming on a laptop?

720p, intel fanboy's "premium" gaming resolution.

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>only 1 product worth buying
>not dying

1 product that barely wins, closer to margin of error.

Wait until he drops 480p benchmarks

t. zoomer

>Even a 7700k outperforms the new Ryzen

Ok two things wrong here:
>intel is faster than Zen 2 meme
False
>implying there's a significant difference between 7700k and newer chips, clock for clock.
lol

>not benchmarking in 144p

youtube.com/watch?v=we2oePtTGMM

where?

>techspot

>israel

>they'll either soon go back to meritocracy or they will die.
or bribe all OEM to peddle their inferior garbage thus reaping benefits to repay the same OEM next year etc

Yeah they've been trying to repeat that but surprisingly this time around the DOJ and EU-Com are having none of it.

Wait for renoir

Should be out before mid year 2020, no idea on what level of performance we'll see form it though.

>Ryzen given significantly faster memory

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They know they can never get more hertz. Theyaill still use 14nm on desktops leaving new techniques for laptop and enterprise if they can pay.

>t. I saw a thread on Jow Forumsso now I know everything about it
You could read the rest of the Wikipedia article, you know?

I think no because people will keep buying from them because they think it’s the only good company out there.

Government corruption.

Thank you based intel for more feminism, pajeets and trannies.

That artwork is insipid.

kek