Breaks your encryption

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I can break aes by spying on your computer power consumption (ie with an oscilloscope) when idle

Veracrypt aimed to solve that problem by having a dummy key that decrypts not your computer but a special partition with an os and nothing suspicious

Someone in the position of being jailed indefinitely or tortured for the key needs to have plausible deniability.
99.9999% of people don't need to worry about their communications being intercepted and a thug being dispatched to beat the key out of them

OTP is uncrackable

Just being accused of being a pedo or a druggie is enough. If you need encryption then youre fucked, if not then youre not

Doesn't work for me because I can just destroy my key file and then nobody can access the files, not even me.
The password is worthless without the keyfile

>make shitty argument to get proper solutions from autists
This is a thinly-veiled datamining thread about mitigation techniques against attacks on encryption.

Go away NSA.

Yes, but not for the reasons of them being able to break the encryption.
The weakest link is the human element.

What are you on about?

>Just being accused of being a pedo or a druggie is enough. If you need encryption then youre fucked, if not then youre not
Welcome to burgerstan. The land of the free and the home of the brave, amirite?

You seriously think the NSA is consulting Jow Forums for ways that encryption attacks can be thwarted?
They employ an army of computer scientists and crypto nerds... a bit more knowledgeable than paranoid pedos trying to avoid prosecution for their CP stash.

As long as you don't submit personal information on sites, TOR is basically enough to guarantee anonymity. Virtually impossible for anybody to trace the nodes back to you.

Yeah, that was the joke.

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>proceeds to browse Tor with javascript enabled

So is your life

O-oh
haha I totally knew that

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Poor troll attempt, even if you lower it from 10,000,000 million years computational time to 1000 years. Humanity will be gone by then.

Also consider: Exponential time increase. I add a few flippy bits and your time increases non-linear.

Basic maths, a retard could never grasp.

>I can just destroy my key file and then nobody can access the files, not even me.
Sure, and you can enjoy prison for evidence tampering and obstruction of justice regardless of the contents of your device.

>What are you on about?
Not him but you can measure the correct keypresses by it. Dunno if it was leaked too but its certainy possible

You misspelled 'backdoored as mandatory for all US companies'.

This, you just cant win
>De facto life for not complying
>De jure for tampering
>De jure for getting caught
They will throw you into the locker for years on mere suspicion

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>tfw ywn be a citizen of a country that won't penalize you for not testifying against yourself or helping the investigators to find dirt on you
You guys are so fucked.

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Just dont host cp or drug sites, how hard is not to break the law?

>"give us the password"
>why
>"or else you'll go to jail"
>sure officer
>"theres nothing illegal here, why are your drives encrypted in the first place"
>its my right
works every time, have you guys considered not breaking the law?

Tell that to Alex Jones or the gazillion other people who have gotten framed for having CP for character assassination purposes.

Or you could simply not be a pedo.

youre not a "character" and you will never be relevant enough for someone to fucking frame you, grow up

Not ONCE in my life has a policeman asked for me to show him anything on my device, are you black or something?

>have 4th and 5th amendment violated
>officer, would you please do a cavity search on me with the baton, please

This. At this point they have physical access to the machine and more worryingly physical access to you, which is even easier to break

>lol this abuse won't probably affect you so it's not a problem
wtf I hate encryption now

actually yes I am
>he'd rather go to jail than take 2 minutes clear up a simple misunderstanding
the absolute state if you
dont get me wrong I don't like it, but I'd rather just prove my innocence in a jiffy than go to jail

Yeah look at the hit job on the Clintons with Eipstein

OP is a glower, not a shower.

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>2 minutes to clear up a simple misunderstanding
In what universe do you think all your tech won't be confiscated on the spot, while you're handcuffed in the back of a patrol car until they've walked out all digital media and electronic devices in your house, only to have them returned to you several months or years later - if even then - without so much as an apology?

Also see I don't have to worry about any of that shit.

because Im a third worlder and things work differently here
however, hard drives have been checked on two different occasions when travelling to the usa
its annoying
the first time they got confiscated for like 3 weeks and shipped to me in a fucked up box

You would need a cluster of those, that's a lot of liquid nitrogen.

i wonder why luks doesnt do this. i also wonder if theyd suspect anything

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except in reality there is no real way of knowing if the address 1tyv78bt8bw5bw7w578tw really belongs to mr .John Smith
I'm willing to bet this comic artist is a nocoiner

now show it actually breaking a SHA-256 key
go ahead

Ethereum has had the possibility to encrypt against quantum computers for a while now.

why would liquid nitrogen help with breaking encryption?

It’s easier to shatter the encryption with a hammer if you freeze it first.

Show me ONE INSTANCE of a cold boot attack actually being used against anyone by law enforcement, ever.
It's just a stupid proof-of-concept.

>a chip specifically designed to neutralise threats and popular attack vectors
versus
>some jackass's sperm encrusted 15 year old laptop running unaudited amateur BIOS and some open source bloat

Tampering of evidence carries a far, far shorter sentence than anything you would want to tamper evidence for.

Besides, plausible deniability shoots that out the fucking window anyway. Fortunately (at least in court) the burden of proof is still on the accuser. "Prove the evidence is on the empty part of this hard drive, which is just filled with deleted files and junk anyway because it's been in use for years. Oh, you can't." and the judge lets you walk.

Provided you shut the fuck up when the cops show up and hire a lawyer. It's easy to fuck the defense up, and 99.999% of the time that happens because the suspect (read: political dissident or """""problematic""""" citizen) talked to the police or feds. Be polite, be compliant, and be quiet.

Can't say the same for countries with no bill of rights like the UK, Sweden, or Germany though. lmoa ur goin to prison forever if you say "why would a country losing a 3-front war dedicate so much of their resources to burning fucking bodies?"

That's exactly it, it's a theoretical attack that anti-public astroturfers from the CIA, FBI, Mossad, etc can use to try to scare people into believing encryption is pointless.

If it's so easy to break encryption, why are so many intelligence and police agencies trying to get it banned?

Because it's fucking hard (read: impossible) to break given proper opsec. This makes them livid. Which makes anyone who actually cares about stopping evil people and organizations, happy. Math's a bitch :^)

>Plausible Deniability
I thought they can hold you in contempt of court till you decrypt the hard drive?

What's point of having a house if an artillery shell can open its door?
-You

Not only that, it's only useful against a running machine, or a TPM-Shitlocker arrangement

Only if they can convincingly allege that you 1) did encrypt the device, and 2) have decrypted the device.

Otherwise we could just jail anyone who gets Wannacry'd

>You seriously think the NSA is consulting Jow Forums for ways that encryption attacks can be thwarted?
no shortage of FBI agents that lurk on this site. why not NSA also? isn't that right, mr. policeman?

> be state actors
> still unable to break proven secure algorithms even with billion dollar super computers
killing yourself would do humanity a huge favor. please.. just do it.

I use hand-written one-time pads with a geiger counter to produce the random numbers. How have they broken this?

Differential Power Analysis?

>breaks your encryption
the encryption isn't broken at all.
cryogenic memory dumps is a way of accessing the key in RAM.
this allows an attacker to gain access to the key, but that doesn't mean there's anything wrong with the encryption.

>AES + Serpent + Camellia
the keys can still be extracted from RAM using any of these.

you can side-channel a computer you have hardware access to? congratulations. I still don't think YOU could do it.

fails through entropy analysis.

a digital OTP would still be vulnerable to cold-boot, as the key would remain in memory.

>If you need encryption then youre fucked
>Or you could simply not be a pedo.
so any burglar or thief should have full access to all of my computer/phone data? got it.

OP is most likely not about CPU overclocking.

>rig a rocket and ignition to be triggered on a keypress to detonate your RAM
Is there anything three letter agencies can do about this? Other than stalking you and grabbing your PC when you leave for the toilet

It doesnt have to be used, it exists and works on most systems

Kys retard. Coldboot only works if you're stupid enough to let your PC get captured while powered, and most stupid cops would try to switch it off anyway.

If they have suspicion to confiscate your hard drives then youre still spending years in the locker assuming you dont get busted from the original crime. The court will always side with the state in cases like this, youre just some fucking nobody and not Epstein

>works on most systems
Only on running or suspended systems, you shitlicker

Then just turn the PC on you fucking spas

all my keys are each encrypted with different algorithms , put on separate dongles and shoved up a several rhinos asses at the zoo I now currently work in.

that is incredibly common and basic and you're gonna get busted. They literally check the rhinos first faggot

>Then just turn the PC on you fucking spas
That would only work in a TPM-Bitlocker style arrangement

>implying they dont work together.

What the fuck are you guys hiding from the government? Porn? State secrets? Secret state porn?

The best anecdote was during the SHA-3 competition where this guy interviewed one of the scientists behind Blake.

"Yes it's all just a laugh, we're doing this for fun"
"What, you mean this is secure right"
"No not at all, all the hardware is backdoored"

based

If the government wants you in prison you're going to prison. Nothing you do is going to stop that. Theyll just repartion the drive, load your laptop with CP, and say they found it that way.
>Vault 7

But theoretically the algorithm is secure right?

>implying that's not how it works everywhere
Atleast I wont go to prison for being upset that a Muslim rape my daughter.

>humanity will be gone by then
Try 30 years, friend.

yes that's the 'fun' part.
but it doesn't matter because every piece of electronic equipment you own is fully backdoored and written as a pile of shit, even the entire X86 arch is a pile of shit actually. That's what he meant. "This is great but let's not get retarded, everything you use is junk that a dozen or so nation state corporations have backdoored since 10+years ago". OpenBSD has the same opinion if you read their thread about laptop security.

>most insecure system on the market
>uncrackable
Hey why don't you boot up your mac in single with cmd+s, mount /, delete the "applesetupdone" file, rerun the setup and create yourself an admin account on ANY "uncrackable" mac

but you can buy non-backdoored hardware right? Or at least patch it somehow? Like libreboot.

No.
Read DJ Bernstein's posts on CFRG (crypto forum research group). There's hacks even in the fucking sillicon that can bypass whatever it is you're doing. Absolutely nothing is secure, though you can take measures against 'passive' surveillance but 'active' surveillance literally there is no possible way to stop it unless you throw out everything electronic.

A lot of these cryptographer's write about the things in the IETF working groups, you should read their posts. Of course now every idiot will say "hahaha, nobody will care about your "insert dissident/illegal activity" but that's not true either, how do you think cops get promotions? Their quantico buddy who now works at the NSA will pass them some stuff about whatever drug dealer or something. Then a huge bust happens and that guy goes into private contracting like General Alexander (remember him? 1 million dollars per day he's charging).

>implying those rules actually apply to the peasants.

So my encrypted hard drive is not encrypted at all because of hardware backdoors? I don't even see how that could work. Either way they gotta decrypt it.

So, it's completely out if the question to avoid active surveillence? Is there anyway to capitalize on these backdoors moving in the opposite direction?

You'll notice that these type of demoralization posts always flood any discussion of strong encryption, traffic anonymization, or content decentralization.
These are shills, shills quoting shills, their job is to turn people away from knowledge of such systems.

>fails through entropy analysis.
Only if they have multiple copies that have been changed. Op sec on an offline computer defeats this so stop trying to sound smart, dumbass.

See

>implying that's not how it works everywhere
It doesn't.

>le plausible deniability meme
It's honestly painful to read something like this, you're so fucking stupid and the level of your thinking reflects that. Without directly helping a pedo like you to evade LEOs
>protip: plausible deniability isn't a magical clause that makes common sense "fly out fucking the window"

But which is a more morally defensible occupation, pedophile, or federal agent?

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>Everyone who doesnt agree with me is Hitler

I believe there was one guy imprisoned in the US for not decrypting, but that's just waiting for SCOTUS to rule that forced decryption is a violation of the 5th. It'll be a 9-0 slam dunk, too.

If Jeffrey fucking Epstein and an FBI, CIA, or Mossad agent were about to be shot in the head, and I could only save one, I would save Epstein every single time with absolutely no guilt.

>Without directly helping a pedo like you to evade LEOs
I would literally trust a convicted child rapist more than a criminal like you. At least a pedo can only ruin a small handful of innocent lives close to himself. The CIA and FBI have already ruined millions.

You aren't even a $40/hr agent. You must be making like $20, $25 tops.

Is that really worth the backlash you're going to face for being an enemy of the public? Think hard about this. You're watching it from the inside, you already know what the public thinks of people like you. The only question is, when will you face the reality that you really, truly, are not the good guy, and never have been?

>Everyone who questions my paranoia is a fed
Please go outside more.

There also has to be a compelling reason to believe that there is CP or whatever on the hard drive.
By the time you're in jail and they're trying to decrypt your hard drive, you're fucked. You've already been caught doing something. They're just trying to get more evidence so they can put you away for a long time.