ATTENTION: Graphics card prices are excessive by historical standards; therefore, consumers should delay or completely forgo any midrange to high end graphics card purchases. The gouging has two root causes: lack of market competition and shortage/"new normal" pricing during the mining hayday.
Want help? >State budget & CURRENCY >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs based on current pricing: >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on most mobos with the right BIOS) >R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming >R5 2600 - Good gaming CPU with great value >R5 3600 - Great gaming CPU >R7 3700X - Overkill gaming CPU >R7 2700 - Budget video editing >R9 3900X - Professional tasks
RAM: >Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended >CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3200CL16 is ideal >AMD B and X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP
Graphics cards based on current pricing: >AAA or multiplatform games: Radeon card appropriate for your montior >PC centric or VR games: Nvidia card appropriate for your display >Used RX 570s can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty 1080p 16:9 >RX 570 8GB - good performance with great value >GTX 1660 - standard
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >Don't bother buying a new monitor for gaming unless it's high refresh with adaptive sync >A 250GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor >Bottleneck checkers are worthless
>last parts of build (gpu and monitor) arrive today I haven't had a pc in years, tonight I will be back in the game! Now I kick back and wait for the pussy
Owen Martin
the fact that theres room for improvement for everyone is pretty crazy
Ethan Wood
Avoid Adata ssds Avoid Evga and Gigabyte gpus Avoid Asrock and Asus mobos
Alexander Taylor
>he doesn't game at 360p upscaled to 480p
Lucas Reyes
>there are pepes who can't even understand CPU testing Not surprising
when you're a poor pajeet that can only play on his intel iGPU, i understand, but actual human beings can afford amd/nvidia and pull 144hz+ at 1440p
Connor Nguyen
Especially Gigabyte GPUs. They cheap out hard on the fans and if you use any kind of aggressive fan curve they'll legit fall off just after your warranty expires.
Landon Collins
THREADRIPPER WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN
Ethan Nguyen
but I love evga gpus and I've been buying them since the 00s, what's wrong with them?
>9900k only 3% faster than 3600 oof, maybe next year, intel
Logan Allen
>115 eur 2600 gives you 93% of the power of a 510 eur 9900k >paying 440% of the price to squeeze these extra 7% 2600 is the GOAT
Cameron Thomas
This is the PC building thread. I understand needing to lower your resolution to 720p for better framerates if you're playing on an older PC, but if you're BUILDING a PC, why the fuck are you buying hardware to target 720p?
Caleb Lopez
Which 2070 super card should I get?
Sebastian Martin
5700 xt pulse
Leo Sullivan
Just report the ban evading FUD spreader. Don't reply to him.
Buying ~$400 GPU of a generation when it's good price:performance relative to others, then selling it for ~$200 and buying the next $400 one in 2-3 years is vastly better than buying an overpriced $1100 GPU that'll be beaten by a $400-$600 one in 2-3 years.
Only reason you should pay $1000+ for a GPU is because you'll always buy the best the moment it comes out to always have the best, as money doesn't matter.
>3900X better at high settings >pozzed 9900k only good for low settings based
If you're going to overpay for a 2070S, you may a well overpay more and get the best one.
Daniel Butler
Great, where do I buy one?
Oliver Martin
>Just report the ban evading FUD spreader. Don't reply to him. I like how everybody in the thread probably agrees with this, but then if you point out who it is there would be a flame war
Wyatt Rivera
What's the best way to get Windows 10?
Julian Robinson
This. I was tempted to get a new ryzen but there's no fucking point. I'm keeping my 2600 for a long time.
Nathaniel Cook
evga>asus>msi>>>>>gigabyte>trash>the other brands
Julian Reed
>that OP fuck off. bring back the better version back, you schizo.
William Diaz
if you have a college email or account you can get one for free a lot of the time, for example using onthehub
Jordan King
by that logic, what ever you have right now is INFINTE value as you spend 0$ to keep using it.
Henry Bell
stupidly cheap key from ebay. They work.
Christopher Cook
>being a motherboardlet in 2019 ishygddt
Easton Hall
>as you spend 0$ to keep using it. i bough 2600 a couple of days ago over all the other meme cpu
Jaxon Bailey
the gtx 1080 ti was great value though it's same performance as 2080 super but has more vram
Ordered a arctic freezer 33 dual for my meshify c and only got the stock fans for it. Should i move the fans somewhere or leave them in the same place. Sorry for the dumb question, i'm dumb.
Samuel Brown
Does anyone have a good ~1-1.2k USD build I could piggyback off of? I'll give you kisses in return... c:
Out of stock and not expected for another month. Except at one place, who have hiked up the price to 2070S levels anyway.
Thanks.
Landon Jones
Damn, thanks but I don't. Unless I could forge a college email somehow
Tempted to do this, but how reliable are the keys? Should they work indefinitely or go unactivated randomly later on?
Also tempted to do this.
Will probably do one of the latter two options, seems too easy.
Camden Gray
>not expected for another month they get restocked next week, there was a big shipment yesterday too
Lucas Anderson
Electricity costs, user.
Kevin Baker
it's a gamble getting a cheap gray market key. there's always a chance microsoft eventually disables it. but you can buy so many gray market keys for the price of a real key, chances are you eventually get one that slips through the cracks no matter what. no idea what the rate of eventually disabling is, either. but there's a chance.
Daniel Cruz
I have a 3570k OC'd to 4.1 paired with a gtx 770. I want to be able to play Cyberpunk 2077 on at least low/mid settings. Should I drop $800 on a new CPU/GPU, like a 2600 or a 3600 (won't spend over $200 on CPU) and a RX 580 or see how it works with just a GPU upgrade?
Luke Gutierrez
Ah okay, thanks.
David Williams
by that logic, amd gpus are terrible value
Aiden Wilson
Received the card today, it's a PNY 2060 Super.
>Pros: - 340€ for a 2060 Super (which includes tax), which places around 2060 prices. - It's actually really quiet and (but?) targets a temp of 78°C. Much quieter than the Vega 56s Pulse and AREZ Strix I returned (the Pulse was the better one, don't fall for the AREZ Strix lies).
>Meh: - What do eggs and PNY share in common? The same packaging. It's cheaper than the Vega 56's packaging that already was bland cardboard. At least what can carry eggs safely should also be able to handle a GPU. - A true dual-slot card with one 6 pin, fins oriented parallel to the PCB. Good for smaller cases, less for overclockers. I don't care.
>Con(s): The I/O is spartan. One HDMI, one DP, one DVI. Nothing else, and certainly no USB-C even though Nvidia still asks (You) if you want the USB-C driver. So not for VR, and limited in multi-monitor setups. > No comfort features like dual BIOS or zero RPM; the price doesn't lie. Even idle it's still impressively quiet despite not having dual BIOS.
Overall? Well it's much cheaper than AIB 5700 and other 2060S for a reason, but it's actually a pretty good deal if you don't care about the I/O being what it is.
Well yeah you aren't supposed to make "I reported you" posts. That's also against the rules. It'd probably help if more than just 2-3 were reporting him though, idk, because the past few threads I haven't seen him dealt with.
I'm still probably going to upgrade for the improved performance in games that run the worst like Path of Exile, Oxygen Not Included, etc. I have a feeling that Dwarf Fortress runs extremely well on Zen2 as well, and that graphics pack release is coming "eventually". Hopefully when that Steam release comes, it'll be a good game to benchmark.
It was $800-$900 most of the time and is only about 10% faster than the lower power 5700 XT. You can OC a 5700 XT to perform the same while still using less power. So no, it was not >good value that is a coping mechanism that you have to lie to yourself comparing it to the overpriced 2080.
Grey market
Why didn't you get the Freezer 34..? anyway, don't understand your question
will do some programming and some light gaming on it (no aiming for max settings at 1080) thoughts? also does anybody have experince with nvme ssds? I mean is heat the problem, if i play games from it?
Samuel Cruz
you mean what should your case fan arrangement be? can you post the exact number of fans and draw your current arrangement along with the open slots? in general you want most fans on the front pushing air in, then fans on the back pushing out, and then fans on the top pushing up, and fans on the bottom pushing into the case
Liam Bennett
I'm gonna do it boys I'm gonna order the kingpin 2080 ti unless somebody stops me
Charles Green
dont be foolish, do you need it
Mason Diaz
amd shill in FULL force, lol Hows your stocks doing?
Leo Rogers
yeah but I just wanna play CP2077. Dota2 and CS:GO are my regular games. I don't wanna go overboard seeing as my current setup can run these games just fine. Will probably just upgrade my 770 to a 580
John Perez
I dont need it I'm depressed and trying to cheer myself up by buypigging
Agreed about the 2600, as the user who posts the TPU charts. I have one. I'm slightly jealous of the 3600 though. Pic related
>why the fuck are you buying hardware to target 720p? You're not, retard. You are fucking stupid though, so quit posting until you figure why 720p CPU tests are relevant
>Just report the ban evading FUD spreader. Take your meds, schizo
>I want to be able to play Cyberpunk 2077 on at least low/mid settings. Wait until the game releases, then ask again since apparently you have no need to upgrade now
>I haven't seen him dealt with. Take your meds, schitzo. Filing false reports is a bannable offense.
