30+ children die in hot cars every summer. Is CSSP a feasible tech solution?

Child Seat Safety Protocol (CSSP) will be an industry standard message format used to enhance safe usage of automotive child seats.

CSSP will standardize the format of messages exchanged between automotive child seats, the vehicles in which the seats are installed, back-end web services, and smart phone applications.

CSSP will be designed by a committee of automotive engineers, child seat engineers, communication engineers, pediatricians, and safety experts.

Any CSSP-compliant child seat will be able to communicate with any CSSP-compliant automobile.

A CSSP-compliant child seat will use a combination of weight detectors, motion detectors, microphones, video cameras, and artificial intelligence to determine if a child is present in the seat.

The purpose of CSSP-compliant devices is to send out Child In Hot Car Alarms (CIHCAs).

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What are your criticisms of the proposal?

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>promoting nanny state bs
>inviting more botnets into cars
No

How about you don't leave your child unattended in the car to begin with, you absolute twat?

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>promoting nanny state bs

The proposal does not mandate CSSP.

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Why so hostile to protecting innocent children from absent-minded parents?

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>dumbshits cull their own slug spawn
>nanny state wants their tax dollars

Have some Tuna op.

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Do we really need this in 2019? If this is something what is needed then we need to revamp society.

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>triple honk

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>hey, buy our child seat, it supports a protocol that encourages nosey middle aged bitches to breathe down your neck

Fucking botnet

I’m with this guy. If you’re too stupid to remember your child is in the car and it’s hot outside, you shouldn’t be reproducing in the first place. Let nature take its course.

>triple honk

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I'm confused about the function of the pin. Unless your toes are out, surely stepping on it is not enough to pull it out. Why is it there?

Removing the pin arms it.

I see.

Just don’t leave your fucking kids in the car

>Let nature take its course.
Take its course from what? A child that was forced into a situation he physically cannot do anything about is now "natural selection"?
Not sperging about "muh someone thinks about the children" but if some parents are too retarded to care then such fault shouldn't fall back on the child.

not defending the teenager nihilism presented here but technically it is natural selection

>camera
>microphone

>parents buy cheap chinese smart seat
>kid pisses self and gets electrocuted

>two for the price of one
can beat chink quality

Protecting children is a very strong and primal inclination. "Just think of the children" is probably the most tried and true political strategy in existence.

Simple pressure sensor in child seat.
Pair your phone to it.
Phone alerts you if you go out of range bluetooth range of the pressure sensor while it is detecting weight.

I'll take my patent now.

the state of burgerland

Is that a MOTHERFUCKING TWINGO

>artificial intelligence
Why would it need that?
To make sure it's a human child and not a pet because fuck dogs let them boil?

Children can't vote

they wanted AI because they read about it on the Financial Times

when cesarean section deliveries became possible, many women and children were able to be save from dying during birth.
what has happened as a result of this, however, is that statistically more and more women are unable to birth naturally (as this defective trait is able to be passed on).
all shit like this does is make us more and more retarded and vulnerable.

If a parent is stupid enough to kill their kid doing the exact thing shitloads of sources (including but not limited to common sense, PSAs, and every goddamn parenting resource on the planet) tell them not to do, I really don't see why we should put forth any effort into saving their genetic offspring. Adopted kids deserve a fighting chance, sure, but is it really so wrong to let stupid genes weed themselves out?

the same can be said about all medicine, from band-aids to gene therapy

>30 children
>per year
>in a fucking 300 million nation
wow, it's fucking nothing

100+ baby boys die from a needless cosmetic surgery every year, maybe we should focus more on that.

Gene therapy would make us stronger and smarter though.

if you consider the retardation needed to manifest itself in a person capable of driving and yielding offspring in order for it to happen, it's a lot

it's technically 30+ children, so really for all we know 300 million children die in hot car seats in the united states alone, per year

this
the concept of gene therapy usually refers to inserting genes into somatic cells like hepatocytes, not gonads so it's not like your offspring doesn't inherit the defective genes

>300 million children die in hot car seats in the united states alone, per year
$50 says if you tried posting this statistic on Twitter you'd be trending within the hour.

I doubt the kind of parent who leave their children in cars are the kind of parents who would buy such a thing.
Unless they plan on giving them for free with the purchase of some crack cocaine.

2 free with every 40oz of malt liquor

30 children is virtually a 0 considering total number of children deaths

there are far more important underfinanced areas where you could save lives, not this bullshit

That's why my idea is much more realistic.
A simple pressure sensor and BLE module device could be sold for under $10 and even poorfags have smartphones.

this we cant let bad parents run free

>it's not mandatory!
>it's only for convicted neglectful parents!
>it's only for likely neglectful parents!
>you aren't doing anything wrong in your car, so why is it a problem if everyone has it installed?
Like fucking clockwork you authoritarian fucking shill

you forgot about grills in africaca that get (((circumsized)))

Retarded wahmenz do tho.

What about niggers getting AIDs.

people who leave their kids in cars deserve to lose them and the kids will have to take one for darwinism

Because it doesn't go to the root of the problem.

You're trying to patch-up the societal and moral failures of a nation through Technology. This is the wrong tool.

The right tool is through the hearts and minds of a nation and by having strong, well known leaders in your community.

This is politics not Technology and CSSP won't solve the problem when the parents in question get a slap on the wrist, get the kid home and start beating them to death.

This would stop accidents though, and these aren’t accidents these are people who are sick of their kids.
Proof: funny no one ever leaves kids in the car all day in the winter.

Hackable, annoying, exploitive but even more damning, invasion of privacy. At this rate why even drive? Also, I don't have kids why do I have to pay for this? Oh right, same reason I can't buy a truck with a stick nowadays, cause amerifats can't drive stick. Just like they only know how to raise their kids like the Nazis dealt with the Jews by putting them in an oven.

I have a cheaper solution. Lock them in the car and let them wait for their toddler to come let them out.

Because people in colder weather don't get dehydrated and retarded little niglet. Try it sometime.

If you cant remember your child you dont deserve your child.

Let em bake.

It wouldn’t be a bad idea if they hadn’t gone full panopticon on the sensor suite. All you need is a couple of pressure sensors and thermometers (more than one each just for redundancy). The only people who’d buy a seat with a lot of expensive tech probably aren’t the same people leaving their kids in the car, so this is likely just some Jews looking for a quick buck from paranoid soccer moms while they gather and sell all the data the damn thing is collecting.

Not being a complete irresponsible retard is feasible tech as well

>car detects baby/child in car
>activated air conditioning
Wow this was hard.
No botnet or data transmission needed

Stop trying to save the children of idiots. We don't want these people in our gene pool.

For wat (You) need so many children, retard? Childs love only alpha fuckers in goverment

The pressure sensor + alarm idea has been proposed since the 90's but no car manufacturer wanted to install it because it adds additional costs just to cover a rare accident. This new IoT design presumably covers the extra cost by allowing them to harvest data that can be sold or used.

Yeah but that kids parents have passed the genes of shitty, negligent niggerdom on to the child. If the child dies it's the same result as the stupid parents dying.

No training wheels for retards. You let your kid die, you go to jail. Coddling is what made adults complacent enough to forget their own offspring.

>A child that was forced into a situation he physically cannot do anything about is now "natural selection"?
yes, are you retarded? their children dying because of their stupidity has the exact same effect on the gene pool as them dying and not being able to make children

>Via BLE

already dead on arrival.

WAIT

WAIT

WAIT

Are these level 1 responders expected to just walk around with bluetooth active and connecting to every device within 100m?! What the fuck is this? Who designed this?

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That makes too much sense, user. The more reasonable idea to to fucking smash their windows or car doors open instead.

>Are these level 1 responders expected to just walk around with bluetooth active and connecting to every device within 100m?!

Good question.

No, the phone running the CSSP App does not pair with the child seat. It just sees the BLE advertisement message from the child seat and uses that alone to activate the alert.

Also, the Level 1 volunteers are not "responders".
They just turn on the app when they are out running errands or whatever.

>small solar panel on roof to power exhaust fans
problem solved?

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why are convicted neglectful parents allowed to have children?

Deeply engrained breeder apologia in society

add an alarm and it would be better

>not thinking to mandate botnet to crossovers and minivans exclusively

so how about simpler solution like:
dog/annoying-shit mode where:
-you activate it by button or infotainment/phone
-remove key/leave car
-car still runs at idle (or from battery if you have prius or tesla) just to support ac
-throttle pedal gets deactivated temporaly
-car locks doors
-car engages parking brake
-car sets ac to lets say 70-73F
-optional car detects co2 level inside
-you come back
-car unlocks it self
-you deactivate "annoying-shit mode" assuming you've paired your phone, have proximity fob or set 8-digit pin
-everyone is happy. your little-shit because it sits in air conditioned can. you, because nobody broke your window. car manufacturers because it's dirt-chip to implement (assuming you have automatic ac, electronic parking brake or just plain automatic transmission)

it would be way fucking easier than supporting whole privacy-invading architecture infrastructure

>changing laws and waste millions on expenses on 30 meagre kids
>the kids are prob genetically deadweight too
Bluepilled

Cars and neglectful parents should just stop being a thing.

I taught its was steve

RIP in peace

Teslas have this today.

>advocating big brother bullshit
There's too many goddamn children in this overpopulated shit world anyway.

>technically it is natural selection
Only if forgetting ones children is selected for, very unlikely.

>30+ children
Oh what a world. I bet more children choke to death on their own saliva every year.

Are you retarded? You can say the same about swimming pools and power sockets.
Parents not caring for their offspring has always been a selection factor.

I think it would be more efficient to develop some sort of kit that adresses everything from practical to tactical to legal issues.

If someone was slowly strangling a child you don't need any permission from anyone to save the child using force.

HOWEVER! that means that you can't disregard the tactics (what if the strangler has an accomplice standing point guard) or the law (braining the strangler may be too much).

Too bad for the children but they're just the result of their parents being naturally selected

Why should a child suffer because the husband of its mother is 'tard?

>swimming pools
It is an underrated hazard. I'd rather have children play unattended in an old melee weapons arsenal than unattended by a pool.

>power sockets
We've got both "tamper proof" sockets and socket plugs.

Not failsafe, but makes it a bit harder.