Muh OLED burn-in!

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Here's if you keep any sort of static UI, aka start button/taskbar from windows.

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Mine are still mostly alright

>moving pictures
>burn-in
What is this faggatory?
Burn ins aren't news for those who owned (or still own) CRT Monitors. The solution to burn ins, or at least streching the lasting period was to use // screen saver \\ !
Yep, putting something moving on the screen prevented burn ins.

OLED burn in is different, you toilet
The only thing that matters is how long a pixel is lit, there is no recovery time from temporary burn in like with CRTs.

Source?

I'm a month into OLED with windows, still no issues.

Do u guys honestly spend that much on technology? These are literally just toys
I'm still waiting on mass production and first real price drops

Screensaver is for when you leave your monitor on for an extended period of time while doing absolutely nothing, which you could just turn that damn screen off to save electricity.

LG actually altered the subpixel sizes each generation, at least up the 2018 model that I'm aware of, to reduce the burn in caused by magenta/red

They have enough capacity to wear level away small differences. That's why Vincent says to keep it on standby rather than cold off, because the wear leveling works on standby.

It is mass produced retard. TVs make about as much as the entire monitor industry despite being almost entire consumer oriented, while monitors are mostly business oriented.

You think these are not mass production or something? As in a grandpa making OLED panels in his personal workshop somewhere?

dumb poorfag

Nobody talks about burn in, it's the degradation everyone cares about. I have an LCD TV from 2013 with nearly 10,000 hours uptime, and it looks the same as it did in 2013. I even went to a friend's place a similar model TV with 4,000 hours, and guess what? The difference is imperceivable, and I have no reason to get rid of the TV for at least another 4 years. If the LEDs fail or they start dimming much further, it's just a days work to replace them.

>le 56%

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The conclusion I draw from this video is that you should stop watching CNN.

That's 100% pure chink, baby doll.

Or get a tv that doesn't suck, either goes

In shops there are different scenarios. Phone screens are not meant for a constant use. You need yi give these screens some rest as the video in OP.

Some phones, like the motorola ones, that have the fingerprint sensor work as the back/home/open aps button have an option to display the buttons on the screen full time. They never go away, and will burn in.
oled is a shit technology for general use. It would be fine for niche uses, but craming it into every phone, montior, and tv is retarded.

doesn't burn in happen from elements that are constantly on the screen tho like a hud in a game? he should have left the service menu up the whole time bet that would cause burn in

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Been using AMOLED displays since the Razr HD and never experienced degraded colors or burn-in. I refuse to use any phone that doesn't have one. You shouldn't be using TVs in place of a monitor anyways so all you faggots can shut the fuck up. I won't be buying one anytime soon since I mainly watch anime and have to do mental gymnastics to justify the price of OLED TVs.

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>work for a big Korean electronics company
>phone stores keep asking for replacements on the demo units due to screen burn-in few months after the release

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There... literally is? OLED tvs run pixel refreshing when in standby, my 2015 OLED is still without burn in and I use it for TV/films and console vidya.

This. They should just be working or LCD tech to make it work better and have pixels that turn off for pure black. OLED is not a long term solution, if for no other reason than that is is controlled by pretty much a single player.

So micro led?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MicroLED

TICK TOCK, OLED CUC_KS

apart from stores and lobby use what scenarios would screen burn in of a menu being up 24/7 for months on end happen?

I honestly don't understand, is it just an american thing where they have become so lazy they don't know what a power switch is?

Literally anything with a UI has permanent features, like a task bar on desktop, or navigation bar on phones.

>pixel refreshing
Based retard.

If burnin is real, why have I never seen it on my Samsung phones?
Checkmate LCD virgins.

The 3 channels he rotated have very small low contrast logos, no news crawler, and no static content. RTINGS findings are still of concern.

>If burnin is real, why have I never seen it on my Samsung phones?
>Checkmate LCD virgins.
I know this is bait, but Android has actually seen various methods of shifting pixels and static elements along with other features for preventing burn-in. You can't really do the same on your TV.

Because you don't stare at the home screen of your phone for hours on end. Really silly question.

However, I do.

>screen savers are so out of fashion that people think burn-in is a legitimate issue in 2019

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Sometimes it's better to just move on when you have been given an answer than being a child.

i have a heavily burned in s8.

Honestly even with the slight burn in OLED is 100X better than the most expensive IPS or TN panel mainly because it outperforms them BOTH and does not retain their drawbacks.

You get:
>Very fast response times of 1ms or less so no ghosting or other motion artifacts even at 120Hz
>Insanely accurate colors, so much so after calibration it can be used for professional color grading films
>very wide viewing angles
>TV mentioned by OP can do 4:4:4 10-bit at 120Hz which can be taken advantage of by AMD's Navi RIS 78% scale 4K gaming right now on the 5700XT or just to interpolate 4K content to 90-120 FPS

It's basically an all-in-one device that can be used for general computing, watching videos/movies/tv, playing vidya, and even doing professional color grading work or video editing/3D stuff.

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Actually these smert TVs have similar mitigations for burn in. That's why it took so much abuse on rtings to get the burn in they achieved and even then it's possible to fix some or most of the burn in incurred by cycling the pixels throughout different colors.

>dishonestly linking a video that concludes that 99% of people won't have a problem with burn-in as if it supports your argument

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for the love of god kill yourself

> it's possible to fix some or most of the burn in incurred by cycling the pixels throughout different colors
It's irreversible damage, brainlet, What you call burn-in is OLED subpixels losing brightness and eventually going black. You can't fix this.

> Android has actually seen various methods of shifting pixels and static elements along with other features for preventing burn-in
That's not preventing burn-in, but making it more distributed across the screen. If you play a looped video long enough you'll get a different burn-in pattern. Just face it, OLED is pure crap that lasts less than a fucking tire.

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YES PREASE BUY LG NO BURN-IN OLED IS THE BEST SOUTH KOREA ROCKS SUPPORT OUR ECONOMY GWEILO

I have a 55" Vizio LCD tv from 2010 still running strong with a picture as good as the day I bought it. My "normal" usecases would burn-in an OLED within 2-3 year of use. Fuck OLED, I'll happily wait for mLED or qLED so I can get perfect contrast without the horrendous burn-in.

I bought an LG C9 OLED in April when it was released and have used it for about an hour a day or so since then and no burn in.

literally use a screen-saver

I'm planning on buying an x900f for my dad when black friday comes, since oleds require some care. if it were for me though, I'd prolly get oled.

I love how all these OLED shills keep suggesting coping mechanisms as solutions.

cope harder

>and dilate

Might as well have not used it at all

b-b-but you're using it wrong!

I have a life outside watching movies and tv shows

so..watching tranny porn while dilating?

sorry youre too poor to afford an OLED might want to work on those mental issues

>barely used
Going to get the same TV once the price drops around Christmas. Have you tested VRR?

enjoy staring at your tv turned off, oledfag

I dont have an xbone or ps4 (assuming thats what uses VRR?) so I cant speak for that. 4k movies of course look great, HDR suport and Dolby Atmos (if you need it). OTA tv is hit and miss but mostly good. You get a TON of video customization options to get the best picture. just turn off realmotion/soap opera mode so everything isnt 60fps speedy and youre good.
And honestly true blacks is a HUGE plus. especially watching letterboxed (4:3 or 2.35) films at night, you dont even noticed the edges of the TV screen, which is basically a huge plate of glass.

Oled monitors already have tech to eliminate burn in, if you use a 62" TV as a monitor you are a retard.

Nice argument

You just embarrassed him, user. Ignore him.

Samsung is starting production of large oled next year. Chinese companies are also expanding, but they've historically had low supply so that's not saying much. Samsung was producing tons of panels for their phones and 3rd parties so they're better prepared to take LG on in a TV market. In fact Samsung has been supplying several of the laptop oled panels but that may be more of a trial run

Yes you can, by wear leveling so everything evens out. OLEDs arent run at their max brightness so they have capacity to wear level a lot. But you have to keep it on standby to let it do its job because it's not a very intelligent system

I keep my OLED at either 75 or 80 brightness which is plenty. Anyone who keeps it at 100 is a fool

To those who would say that OLED is the superior technology, do you prefer matte or glossy finishes on plastic enclosures?

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>enclosure
my OLED is frameless

I meant in general, not just on TVs.

matte. glossy black reminds of cheap tech

This. Gloss also attracts dust and fingerprints like nobody's business and it's not like anyone's really looking at the enclosure while using the screen.

>Harro everyone Vincent Teoh from hedge tee tee wee test here I'm a tee wee wee viewer and professional calibrateh

I'm pretty sure none of those are real professions

Yes, I would absolutely use a 62" OLED as a monitor if I could. Why wouldn't I?
I could place it at exactly the correct distance such that it subtends exactly the same angle in my field-of-vision as a smaller, closer monitor. Then I would have:
>the same effective pixel density
>less eyestrain
>a subjectively more impressive image (after all, we know how large something is even if it subtends the same angle)
>and of course, OLED-tier contrast/HDR support
Unfortunately it seems burnin is still a real risk. I could do the above with a VA, of course, but it's hard to justify buying a high-end VA panel when you know how much better OLED looks.

>Deprecate superior plasma technology because of burn in
>Create OLED tech to match black levels and burn in of plasma
Fuck, humans are stupid. We went full circle. The only thing we gained was motion blur and power efficiency. Plasma was the superior tech tree.

2016 lg b6 owner checking in. No burn in whatsoever. But then again I only play games and watch movies/tv shows. I also take precautions and turn off my oled tv when im not using it.

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>like a task bar on desktop
it being permanent is an option

and I will ask again, why would a consumer desktop PC not only be on 24/7 for months on end but the OLED screen also?

>wear leveling soon to be dead pixels that won't light up anymore
The state of OLEDfag cope

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Why is it so hard for people on here to admit the simple truth that OLED is, outside of a few valid but niche use cases, the best display tech out there? There isn't any good reason to get so worked up about the truth that you have to resort to calling any effort to inform you as "cope." You'd think people on a technology board would be curious about learning how things work!

OLEDis here to stay at the top for quite some time to come, as Samsung is now heavily investing into it while MicroLED progress has completely stalled. You might as well learn about how they work and how they minimize/eliminate image retention. Watch the last 5 minutes of the video in the OP for a great explanation.

There's too much dumb shit in this thread to address, but I will clear up one other thing for those who are curious: the talking point about "losing brightness" and "degredation" is dumb too, due to ignorance about how OLED works. FIrst off, it's silly to pretend that OLED is the only display that degrades over time. Second, while it is true that the compensations cycles that eliminate burn-in do lower peak brigthness of each pixel over time, this will be effectively invisible to you for tens of thousands of hours. Why? The absolute peak brightness of a pixel on an OLED TV is around 750-900 nits, but you will only see those pixels reach 300-400 maxed out during normal usage due to ABL (auto brightness limiter that caps total light output to voltage levels). The pixels can only get that bright in HDR content, and only small sections of the screen at that. So, that "max" brightness that can get cut off over time is nowhere close to what you will be seeing even if you max out the brightness all the time (which you shouldn't because that's really bright even in SDR). What you would be losing after tens of thousands of hours would not be detectable during normal veiwing, but instead would manifest as somewhat weaker peak brightness in some HDR content. Much less of a big deal!

>was going to wait to buy LG C9 until after Yule for price drop
>Norwegian currency now expected to fall a lot at that time
>could have gotten it for 19900 NOK
I'm still going to wait in hope.

>Oled monitors already have tech to eliminate burn in
No they don't. All the pixel refresher does is delay the appearance of burn in. Burn in is happening whenever there are static images on the screen - period. You just can't see it because the pixel refresher compensates for it, but it can only do that for a limited amount of burn in.

2030 at earliest

>while MicroLED progress has completely stalled.
ledinside.com/news/2019/5/vuereal_30000ppi_microled_display_highyield_ready_sample_shipment
>VueReal, the Canada-based Micro LED developer, announced its achievement in Micro LED display production. With its self-aligned technology, VueReal has reached a high yield in Micro LED display production. VueReal will start accepting orders for Micro LED display samples by June 2019.

amazing how they can somehow make a 30000 ppi 10000 nits display but not a 100ppi 300 nits television

depends if you use it at max brightness all the time or not

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