What is Jow Forumsternet? mesh.gentoo.today/wiki/Purpose Jow Forumsternet would be our own decentralized p2p network running on our own infrastructure, totally disconnected from the clearnet. It will be a combination of DIY meshnets on a city wide basis, and a platform for interconnecting these city wide meshnets over p2p openvpn bridges and high powered wireless dishes for City to City relays. The Inter-Meshnet part of the project will allow any existing DIY meshnets to join our network by adding a bridge node or a city to city relay. The short term goal is to have a few anons set up their own local meshnet and link them together using the bridges as a proof of concept. A long term goal is gain a large enough user density that we can disable the brige nodes and have our own decentralized network idependent of the internet. >tl;dr we're gonna connect city meshes through the internet until we have enough people to disconnect from the internet entirely
Talk about: >Finding friends to link with >Linking meshes over VPN >Decentralization/distribution of all layers of protocol, from network itself to end-user applications Please try to keep names/logos to a minimum.
Links: >Map (for finding all your Jow Forumsternet pals and establishing nodes): DEAD, please help setting a new one up >IRC (contains news, it's the best way to talk to the dev): irc.jollo.org SSL port 9999, channel #gternet (nonactive) >Wiki (read and edit it): mesh.gentoo.today (not up to date, please contribute) >Git (sign up and contribute): git.gternet.me >Previous threads: qt.catbox.moe/4c6fb8 >Pastebin: qt.catbox.moe/638937
Protocol: BATMAN-adv for now using IPv6
Every well-intentioned contribution is valuable! Get your friends and neighbours in on this.
Well, true. That shit is expensive so that we need to make it in communities and introduce it to other people so they can join. Maybe some people and/or organizations will donate money for this, but right now it's more experimental.
Joshua Collins
There is definitely funding available for projects like this, a transatlantic cable will be expensive and difficult but there are easily a couple thousand I know of and maybe even a couple dozen I know personally that would contribute to a project like this (contribute connections and capital, not $20 for a lord of the flies type of deal educational non-profits)
Liam Russell
Nice, it just needs more recognition, more updates, and more people to join to be successful.
Robert Gonzalez
bump out of interest and support, I will spread the word on other tech forums
Joshua Garcia
Bumping out of interest while i read into it, what can a hobby sysadmin do yo contribute?
Leo Scott
I've got a fiber connection 1gb up/down no cap and a bunch of usff i7's with 16gb of ram sitting there idling on ubuntu server, give me some sort of package or something to install and you lads can use my bandwidth / that hardware. 2lazy2readeverything.
Nolan Baker
Well, you can join and create nodes, and introduce people to it. Just make sure you have some equipment that and/or the people that are interested, such as radio transmitters or cables. Then host a node.
Eli Cooper
mesh.gentoo.today/wiki/Deploy_Meshnet_Node Here is the guide. Make sure to let people join with your cables as well. Also, we need a map since the old ones account for frozen, so if you are willing to host a site to display a map of where nodes are, that will be gratefully appreciated and help the project grow.
Parker Peterson
>What is the difference and advantage to something like dn42? What problem does this try to solve? Answer please.
Wyatt Diaz
thanks user I have ((AT&T)) fiber, is there any port forwarding I need to do as well, ATT modem is pretty kiked down as far forwarding and such goes.
Cameron Cooper
Actually don't know. It is decentralized so you probably do need to.
Owen Watson
>>What is the difference and advantage to something like dn42? What problem does this try to solve? >Answer please. It is focused on anonymity, while dn42 is based on exploration of the technology
Noah Ward
(Please note, while the project does not focus on anonymity, the protocols help the user become anonymous)
Mason Moore
I'll make the logo
Jacob Parker
But we already have Freifunk. Why not just expanding the existing Freifunk network or build new ones where they not already are?
Luis Cooper
Is there any IRC channel of your project that isn't dead?
Anthony Jones
Freifunk is not fully decentralized, while Jow Forumsternet is.
John Turner
How?
Bentley Gomez
It is a meshnet, reliant on the centralized internet. Jow Forumsternet is just a replacement of the internet.
Connor Campbell
Just use baudot and a ham radio. Or sit a coupling model next to the mic and one on the other end.
Christian Gonzalez
Oh, ok. Are you planning to actually write custom software for automatic handling of your network or maybe leave it as it is (manual OpenVPN work)?
Kayden Butler
what kind of hardware would you even need for a meshnetwork? One with actual range. Could I use one of those huge ass dish antennas?
Jace Thompson
AFAIK any kind of connection between two PCs is enough to form a meshnet. You can even use WiFi routers for that purpose AFAIK.
Anthony Perry
Once I get a proper laptop I will contribute. Right now I can barely do anything with it.
Jaxon Evans
Nice. I might take a look if it's worth to contribute after I finish my own project. Good luck.
Noah Cruz
yeah i mean i get the whole concept but what's the point of it if you can't connect to it without physical access?
Jeremiah Baker
if you dont build ontop a new tech and just plain copy what already is there you just building a bubble network with bridges to the internet wow its nothing no special usecase and no technical challange since it has the exactly same problems the internet needs to solve
Luis Walker
oh wow there are acually mesh dishes. You guys think i could repurpose my old ass huge fucking tv dish for that ?
Lucas Perry
think about it as your own pirate radio station but instead of that it's a whole pirate network with your own rules
Isaiah Johnson
The idea is to temporarily use tunneling to simulate physical connections between machines, and when then mesh is big enough and has enough resources we start slowly building physical infrastructure replacing the temporary connections between the nodes.
Charles Wood
Freifunk is also decentralized and can operate on its own. Only the exits and nodes that cannot be reached via WiFi are connected via VPN tunnels over the internet. But things like syncthing or bittorrent with DHT and LPD would work as always. In Berlin they have a pretty big meshed network hopglass.berlin.freifunk.net/
Ryan Long
>build vpn to bridge physical link >replace vpn with parallel physical links
freifunk does that on the physical layer tor does it on the wiith anonymity
>seems it sure is still summer here if you dont even know freifunk why are you even thinking about trying to setup anything else then your wifi password?
Sebastian Long
did I trigger your tism incel?
William Kelly
dont worry about it i just for a moment thought you might be a person who knows what he is talking about and not an hyped undergraduate
