/pcbg/ - PC Building General

Nah I just wanted to see how long it would take to draw you out.

Heh
No problem
I could wait until Christmas

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Is a 4770k and 980 still okay for 1080p gayming?

Or can I build something better for 500?

I have no idea what your saying or what that image is supposed to mean
Bad infograph

Replacing that 980 with something significantly better is going to cost you pretty much all of that 500.

What a punk motherfucker

$500 won't get you anything better. Go for that and spend your money on a delid for the CPU

What's a delid?

Taking off the nickel plated heat spreader so that you can replace the thermal paste with something more conductive. It does wonders on some of those older CPUs since the material Intel used was really bad.

DON'T BUY AN AIO mines leaked a week ago

Ohh okay thanks I'll put better thermal stuff on it!

Am I stupid for wanting to go with an aib 5700 xt even though I have a perfectly good gtx 1080? My rationale is that I could make most of the money I spent on the 1080 back by selling it and the 5700 xt is somewhat better for 1440p 144hz.

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A hustle ain't stupid if you actually pull it off.

I'll still be down $150ish regardless, but I worry that the difference between the two cards is too marginal to really make the effort worth it.

Anyone here has the Scythe Mugen 5 Rev B and could shed some light on its performance? I was thinking about getting it for my 3600 because the stock wraith stealth is fucking shit. I could buy it here in my Eastern Euro shithole for around $40-45. How does it fare in comparison to other coolers in the $30-50 price range?

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Yeah I doubt $150 better but on the other hand you'd have a card with brand new fans and warranty.

So I have to keep waiting....

>$30-50 price range
a noctua nh-u12s are only $10 more

There's a chump made every minute
It's possible

Imagine putting a giant aluminium Alzheimer's generator in your computer for the sake of saving money
This is your reminder that aluminum causes Alzheimer's

>still have a black screen with a white underscore
When is MSI finally bringing their AGESA ABB for B450 tomahawks holy fuck

The parts are slowly coming in, I'm gonna update this picture every day, until I get my last part. In the meantime I shall spend time praying for Canadian red devil stock that I can snag

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Tried re-seating your ram? Otherwise taking out CMOS battery for 1-2 minutes? I used to have similar issues that ended up being old cmos battery.

>he fell for the Ryzen meme
enjoy your shit performance, should have gone with the i5-9600k

>i5-9600k
Who?

Best build for 1080p 144hz ultra?

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AMD Ryzen 7 3700x
X570 motherboard
Nvidia RTX 2060 Super

So my 2080 Ti used to boost clock @1905-1920 MHz pretty consistently at stock values, 100% power limit, 84c and +0 manual OC, but recently i've noticed consistent clocks at around 1600 MHz. I play Black Desert a lot and i've also noticed that right when i pop the game back from tray, clock are up to 1900 and get around 120fps at certain settings, but after a few seconds the clock goes down to 1600 and fps to 90.

Why did this suddenly started to happen, is it normal?

Build is 9700k @ 4.8 1.275V, Z390 AORUS Ultra & 850W Gold

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>poozen

Somebody got clowned

84c is already thermally throttled

Those 3 values ( power limit, temp and +0 oc) meant my settings on afterburner, 84c is my temp limit setting, actual temps reach 70c at max when under heavy load.

I have an intel motherboard that should support slot 1 cpus up to 1ghz pentium iii coppermine. But slot 1 coppermines at 1ghz are rare and expensive. I was thinking about using some no name brand (slocket) slot 1 to 370 adapter that supports 66/100/133 fsb and says it supports coppermine cpus. With the heatsink, cpu, and slot adapter its like $55 bucks, but the 1ghz native slot 1 are either non existent or more than $500. Think this will work? I already measured and found a heatsink that will fit with the slocket adapter, there should be more than enough clearance.

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Looking mostly to play games like monster hunter world , the upcoming doom game, and some others on high settings at 1080, with the chance to upgrade to 1440p next year. Would rather not have to buy a new GPU since I bought a 2060 when my GPU died back in march. Will probably buy a new GPU next year though. Budget is around 1.3k USD but the cheaper I can get the better, what can I change?

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>Would rather not have to buy a new GPU since I bought a 2060 when my GPU died back in march
shouldn't have bought that shit to begin with. good waste of money. remember secondhand gpu's are the only gpu's that are actually worth there value.

Trust me when I say i'm not 100% happy with the 2060 but i'm not replacing it until some time next year.

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Wait, if you already have a rig and a 2060 why do you need to upgrade? specially if what you want to do is to play at 1080? whatever, you can make cuts in cpu if all you want is gaming, same in motherboard, ssd and power supply.

My current CPU is holding me back, and overall I would just like to build a new PC I guess, it's been since 2012 or so about since I built my current PC and aside from the odd graphics card upgrade it's lasted me well enough, but i'm starting to get stutters and slowdown in the games I do play and even with my 2060 I just assume that my current CPU is not going to be able to keep up much longer.

I would buy second hand if I trusted anyone of the people selling them, but not only do I have no idea in which quality are they selling their product but I have no idea how they used them.

a 3600 should be more than enough

please rate. Prices are Microcenter based.

pcpartpicker.com/list/z7ZWnH

looking good, but are you sure you need want to spend that much money on the ssd?

About $100 for a 1TB NVME SSD i about standard isn't it?

>but not only do I have no idea in which quality are they selling their product but I have no idea how they used them.
Well the good thing about the market is that most people aren't really into overclocking and on top of that nvidia and amd both have restricted the ability at which your able to overclock to lower the amount of idiot overclockers burning out their cards and returning them under warranty.
If you get a card with a warranty there isn't much to worry about really and getting it at half the price after 1-2 years is boss.
Bought myself a used mining card(1070ti) and couldn't be happier. still got half the warranty and seems to be in perfect working order.
That's another myth with mining. Real miners don't just overclock their cards to the max real miners go for efficiency and more than likely underclock their cards for this.
Another great thing about used cards is in the first 1-2 years and manufacturing defects tend to show themselves so anything older than 2 years is more than likely gonna outlive it's usefulness(much better, cheaper and more efficient cards being out in the future)

indeed, and might be the best thing if all you want is to save space, but for that money you could also get an hybrid storage and get more tb for your bucks, your choice.

>hybrid storage
even I know that's a meme. HDD's are good for bulk storage only

This guy is retarded .
9700K + 2060S would be far better, though you're still extremely unlikely to hit 144fps in most games at that point.
"Best" would be 9900K + 2080ti (or Titan RTX if you're just a millionaire and dgaf about about paying double for 3% extra performance lol), but like i said 9700K + 2070S to 2080S should do the job for a while.

Nobody?

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Well at least Intel still has the hobo market with the i5 9400F...
Oh wait.
tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-5-3500-matisse-zen-2,40227.html

You're kidding me. The only time I ever recommended Intel was the top tier 9900k or the dirt cheap 9400f. When getting the 9400f, your entire platform was usually cheaper because you only needed 2666MHz memory and a dirt cheap B365 board.

If AMD prices this thing at like $80-$100, I'd shit. Combine that with Microcenter's bundle deal of $30 off a board (a bundle that Intel doesn't offer on their non K series chips). Talk about twisting the knife.

What's wrong with the 9700K?
Muh threads is a non-argument, it performs significantly better than the equally as expensive AMD alternative in practically every game and will for a long time.

So does anybody here actually do VR shit with their PCs, or is the universal consensus that it's all a meme? I'm curious about it, and I'm wondering if it makes any sense to futureproof a new build now in case VR becomes worth it in 2-3 years.

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price. When I got my 9900k, it was only $60 more than the 9700k. Plus more threads is always a good thing if you're not sacrificing anything to get them. Other than money of course. Then again I encode/render quite a bit. If you're doing pure gaming, then yea 9700k is fine.

>I'm wondering if it makes any sense to futureproof a new build now in case VR becomes worth it in 2-3 years.
Pro-tip: it wont

fuck yea you must be a sysadmin

It's not a meme but it's still on early stages. Maybe in 2 to 3 years it might become more affordable, get better uses for it and the system themselves become better designed, for now is all transition tech and betatesting.

The new Steam VR headset is unironically pretty based if you have the money, i'd say VR is already leaving the meme phase.

was planning to get a 580 but I see too many people already owning one trying to upgrade to something better that it makes me thing it would be better to get something more powerful, what's the next best thing to get other than a sapphire 5700?

I technically have a "future proofed VR capable PC", pic related. I can drive VR easily but don't bother because of what said. Current VR games are mediocre at best simly because the devs are marketing to a very small portion of gamers compared to non VR devs. Development is slow.

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what's your use case? Resolution and desired FPS? The RX570/580/590 are very solid choices if you're only after say 75+ FPS at 1080p. The 590 even performs decently enough at 1440p when paired with a freesync panel.

It actually lowers intels cpus by 20 degrees
Even their top of the line
Because they purposely use shit thermal paste so that you will need to upgrade if you don't know how to delid

Good decision user, anyone unironically recommending a 580 in 2019 is very misinformed.
Can't even manage 1080p 60fps in new titles anymore.
5700 is a good choice, 2060 Super or 2060 (if you can find it cheaper than 5700) are nice too.

Nice specs porn, i like it.

Are AMD drivers still fucked? If so, how bad is it?

thanks, I want to have enough power for 1080 ultra at 60 fps or more if possible in case games get more demanding in the oncoming years so that my pc can keep up with them, futureproofing as much as possible in a way.

>Freesync monitor
>Want 2070 Super or 2080
The 5700 XT isn't too bad, but it gets so hot and loud compared to the 2070S.

My monitor is G-Sync compatible, but it's messy and I'm not even sure if it's always working, which also makes me wonder if I even notice any possible tearing at >120fps.

When the fuck are the AIBs for the 5700xt supposed to drop?

Next week.

>yes, lock yourself out of a 10th Gen Intel.

You're a fucktard. I'm an Intel fan and I'm patiently waiting for an LGA 1200 system. The 9th gen is dead, bury it.

Hello. I've got a question. I'm looking to switch from Intel to AMD Will a AMD 2600X work with a PRIME A320M-E motherboard?

do yourself a favor and just get a 2600 + B350 board, A320 is shit.

could be a /sqt/ kinda thing to ask, but why do NVMe/M.2 drives exist?
>is there any other point to them other than having your storage directly on the motherboard?

Does more and more cores actually matter most of the time?

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NVMe is faster than SATA.
M.2 is just a form factor. It cuts down the need for cable connections.

How much faster?
OP states that it doesn't matter for gaming.
Will it boost my OS load time?

What about the 2600 and a Gigabyte B450M Gaming Motherboard? Are they compatible right out of the box?

Pulse 5700XT for 440e or used kfa2 2070 super for 450 ?

Up to 6 times faster.
>Will it boost my OS load time?
Yup. Bear in mind TOTL SSDs already boot up real fast.

That's cool and all, but why does the OP say it doesn't affect performance in relation to gaming?

It's for convenience and not needing a separate addin card or cabling to access the pcie bus. Much like how most features are integrated on the board these days.
Not that U.2 and cabling is really a thing anymore for signal integrity reasons.

Pls help me guys. A motherboard supports these memories: dual channel DDR4 3200(OC)/3000(OC)/2800(OC)/2666/2400/2133MHz memory

My question is: what does OC mean exactly? do I have to overclock a 3200hz memory so it runs at 3200hz?

I'm guessing now but it's probably because SATA speeds aren't saturated by games in the first place.

If they're sold at a similar price in my cunt, is it better to buy an 860 EVO ove a MX500? 1TB btw.

What about the 2600 + Gigabyte B450M Gaming or ASUS PRIME B450M-K Motherboard? Are they compatible right out of the box? I'm on a tight budget.

Not an authority, but a 2600 and a B450 should just werk

Games do things with the data they're reading off disk and rarely need to sustain a stream at high speed continuously. This ultimately limits how much storage bandwidth they can effectively use. For now and at least the foreseeable future a few hundred MB/sec is about all that still makes a difference.
For more extreme examples, consider playing a movie or just an mp3 off such a drive. What exactly is supposed to improve in the playback by reading a 40 kilobyte/sec song off a disk at 4 gigabyte/sec?

>Speccy reads it at almost 90C idle
>HWinfo reads a maximum of 55C after several repetitive passes
Why is Speccy unironically such fucking garbage? How is it so bad?
On a side note, however, my new Ryzen 2700 is feeling far comfier than my 1300X was. This feels spectacular.

can a zotac 980 ti omega fit in one of those tiny mini itx shits,pic related to be more precise

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Don't use speccy you idiot!
Uninstall asap

I only used Speccy to see how bad it is, since I've read about how utter garbage it is.
I now see why people advise against it.
If I ever need temperature readings, I'll resort to using HWinfo anyway.

>How is it so bad?
The last update was over a year ago and they've been half-assed for years before that. The author gave up on it nearly a decade ago and only keeps at it because paying customers.

>Ryzen Master doesn't recognise my 3600
Another Massive Disappointment, desu