Want help? >State budget & CURRENCY >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs based on current pricing: >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on most mobos with the right BIOS) >R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming >R5 2600/X - Good gaming CPU with great value >R5 3600 - Great gaming CPU >R7 3700X - Overkill gaming CPU >R7 2700 - Budget video editing >R9 3900X - Professional tasks
RAM: >Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended >CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3200CL16 is ideal >AMD B and X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP
Graphics cards based on current pricing: >AAA or multiplatform games: Radeon card appropriate for your montior >PC centric or VR games: Nvidia card appropriate for your display >Used RX 570s can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty 1080p 16:9 >RX 570 8GB - good performance with great value >GTX 1660 - standard
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >Don't bother buying a new monitor for gaming unless it's high refresh with adaptive sync >A 250GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor >Bottleneck checkers are worthless
Previous: Beware of schizo user's posts like which generally call everyone who isn't an AMD fanboi a shill, a faker, a false flagger, or a ban evader despite repeated and constant evidence to the contrary
is that true? if so I wonder if threadripper will launch at the same time to compete
Blake Russell
I'm having trouble deciding between a 2700x, 3600x, i5 9600k , i7 8700 Which would you choose and why? I'm running an a10 5800k so it's finally time to upgrade.
Colton Wilson
3600 not close
Owen Powell
what does gpu scaling do? if I watch a 1080p video will it scale it up to 1440p if my resolution is set to that?
Jaxon Ortiz
>have everything except graphics card >can afford 2070s but want to go full amd this year >I just know they're not going to have enough stock again and sell out within an hour
R5 3600 because it's cheap and can max out any reasonable graphics card + monitor combo, the new consoles will be Zen, and you can double your multithreaded performance later if need be by dropping in a 3900X
Daniel Fisher
Will I be able to play games without issues when I buy a 5700 (XT) or will I just stare at BSODs/driver crashes?
Jeremiah White
amd no good no buy please do the needful buy 2060
Ayden Edwards
You should be more worried about drivers
Bentley Thomas
3600 without a doubt, best perf/price ratio with actually good performance >no bios issues >no temp issues just dont be amerijew and read the instructions before doing something, and update youre chipset drivers
I'm thinking of upgrading, this is what I budgeted this time. I didn't put much thought into it desu, just modified my previous one I did a few months earlier now that prices have changed.
My current build is: 3570k, overclocked to 4.2 Gigabyte mobo, forgot the model some udh z77x or whatever. 8GB wam 4 HDDs and 2 SDDs I think a 520W Seasonic PSU, bronze Gigabyte R9 270x
Things I do: Photoshop, Illustrator, Matlab/Fortran/C, watch chinese cartoons and sport streams, jack off to eroge, play terraria, factorio, and simracing.
I might move the old bits into a new cheapo case and take it to the office so that I don't have to use an old optiplex.
Being quite honest, the 3570k still runs, not sure why I'd upgrade besides the fact that: >fuck intel and their socket changes >I damaged the old mobo, one fan out and the 3.0 usb bit doesn't work now
I could simply get a gaymen gpu and new psu for it and be done with it, but I haven't done my research.
Need to upgrade CPU, GPU, ram, ssd and hdd AM4 socket and want to go full AMD thinking: >Ryzen 7 3700x >16Gb ddr4 3600 >500Gb ssd >2-4 Tb hdd >donno grafix
Nathaniel Anderson
Been going on /pcbg/ for the past month but I'm still not any smarter in regards to cpu. Will buy it probably this week. Been switching between amd and intel all the time. I know everything else I'm going to buy except that. Would have gone for the 9700k but since it seems new intel cpus are coming next year, for which I don't want to wait for, I'm not sure what to do. Will it still have good enough longevity as to not have to change it for at least 3 or more years if possible? I don't buy many new games, resi 2 this year and evil within prior to that and nothing else, mostly somewhat older games. But if I were to buy something new I'd at least want to be able to play it at 1440p60. The problem with amd for me would be the lower fps and the mobos, even if it's not much, every frame less is going to will keep me from a smooth 4k60 for older games. I don't and never will do any productivity on my pc.Gaming is the most taxing thing I do. I also don't care about the i7 costing more though the i9 would be too much.
Nathan Carter
An R5 2600 can easily keep everything at above 60FPS minimums, especially if we're talking corridor shooters. Check benchmarks. Resolution does not affect CPU requirements
Grayson Roberts
hows the benq ex3203r . looking for 32" 1440p monitor.
Luke Campbell
Got an RX570 8GB here. Worst possible model, MSI armor. Anything I could possibly do to make it "cooler" without outright buying a goddamn aftermarket cooler? I already use a case that is supposedly pretty decent with airflow, have tried every goddamn fan setup possible for that, I already reapplied thermal paste on it. I don't know if it would be a good idea to replace the thermal pads but since there's like 5 different thicknesses if I'm going to lurk for and buy each of those at that point I might as well buy a cooler.
Any other ideas?
Easton Williams
amd gpus have shit drivers and you cant play older games.
Jayden Miller
>blower might be ok though because its a 5700 and they're cheap as fuck if you get a reference design >650w good >asus b450 idk if this is any good but w/e >3200 ram good >2700 good I rate this build good/good
Nathan Taylor
i'll shill this for the last time AOC Q3279VWFD8 31.5" Widescreen IPS LED Black Monitor (2560x1440/5ms/VGA/HDMI/DP/DVI) and it's only £200
Aaron Diaz
Is the tomahawk max a good board? Is it good enough for a 3900x? Will never overclock anyway.
Jaxson Allen
radeon has poor driver support when they launch new cards historically, it always takes months for the drivers to be good, but once they are your card will be amazing when you buy an amd gpu, it can only ever get better, but you suffer if you buy early
Gabriel Lewis
You right . Fuck it I'll do a 3600x. The 9600 is 30 bucks cheaper but I think I'd rather have those extra threads for video editing and VR.
Isaac Brooks
Pay $400 for a part that doesn't even work properly on release. Yeah makes sense.
Owen Powell
I'm talking more mobos ($120 starting) and SFX PSUs.
Grayson Bailey
>3600x instead of a 3600x i would recommend a 3600 and a good aftermarket cooler whats good? im not sure the default one is decent and way quieter than what i had, a shame i couldnt mount my coolermster v6gt on the am4 board any idea what kind of bracket could i get to mount this? like is there any intel bracket thats close to am4 or somthing like that?
Kayden Roberts
I've never used Windows 10 before, are you able to make a local user account that isn't a Microsoft account? Is there some hoops you have to jump through or is it an easy option? I remember something about the option only being there if you disconnect the network cable when going through the Windows install, not sure if they changed that though.
Anthony Gomez
>waiting for the holiday to buy a new PC gonna be comfy. cannot wait. hopefully discounts will be good. prob going for 5700 xt red devil and r5 3600. can someone recommend 1080p and 1440p monitors to go with these?
Brody Martin
I never said you had to buy it right away or at all. I was just explaining something to that user.
Nathan Ward
the 3600X is widely considered to not be worth the extra money. it barely outperforms the 3600, compared to the difference between the 2600X/2600 or the 2700X/2700.
Noah Ross
yes just click "Domain join instead". it will prompt to create local account
Connor White
you could try getting rid of the whole plastic fan shroud assembly and ziptie some high airflow 90 or 120mm fans onto the bare heatsink. Kinda like a ghetto morpheus.
Can I get a water-cooling unit? They look rad. 3600 it is. I think that one's only like 200 bucks too.
Parker Thompson
At least in pro/enterprise you have to select "join domain" only to have an option to create local admin account instead, because MS could not figure out how to actually join domain during installation.
Robert Harris
pro minimum
Christopher Lewis
Dumb question. The rma office received my *maybe* dead mobo days ago. It's been one week since they got it and they still haven't said a thing or contacted. Do you think should I contact them tomorrow just to ask some info or do I sound like a needy faggot?
Asher Davis
>just pay RTX prices for early access drivers bro
Brody Hernandez
>botnet 10 barely lets you create a real accout wat what a bullet i dodged by just installing usb3 drivers for windows 7
Robert Sanchez
Why does the budget 4k machine need a more powerful psu?
Anthony James
these are decently priced if you want a bigass 144hz display
Why are only retards replying to me? As I told the other user who replied to me, Im just explaining the radeon driver stuff to someone. Personally, Id buy a 5700 because I know in 7 months it'll be a beast of a card.
Parker Brooks
>TN
might as well put them in the bin m8
Luke Roberts
Nothing wrong with following up. They're a business and you should expect to be able to receive a status update any time you want
Pretty much all monitors suck right now. A 27" version of the VG32VQ is basically all we can hope for, provided the ELMB sync on that monitor even works well. No reviews yet
Attempt an undervolt? Caring about chip temp for its own sake is mostly pointless. The important thing is that the card doesn't throttle or get too loud
Henry Hall
you're actually paying about the same as you would for quality ATX components. Plently of decent b450/x470 itx boards that are on par with their full size counterparts. Decent gold rated PSUs have risen in price recently, but there are a few reasonably priced SFX units. EVGA has a $90 550w that can easily sustain zen 2 + undervolted navi.
Isaac Parker
they're both VA which is a nice compromise between IPS and TN if you don't do any productivity work.
>need a 2080Ti to run decently wow what the fuck is this game
Jeremiah Wright
Control is that new rtx showcase game.
Chase Cox
5700xt.
Lucas Garcia
>your wattman settings have been reset due to an unexpected crash >literally just restarted my computer once by force using the hard reset button my case how do I prevent this
Logan Myers
Anyone know if the powercolor vega 56 red dragon is a good card? Does it have coil whine?
Camden Martinez
You can't! Fucking Amazing AMD drivers right? And just wait till it starts trying to force freesync on in games that don't support it, causing your PC to hard crash and you to need to restart it, which will reset Wattman settings. It's an awesome cycle, totally not a shit user experience.
Ayden Lee
>3700X >"overkill" >when there is a better gaming CPU for literally the exact same prize Stockholder-kun...
What are good hdd brands? I was going to get a seagate barracuda 3tb 7200rpm until i discovered it was a gamble if it would work or die. Also, is there a noticeable difference between 5200, 5900, and 7200 rpm?
Keep in mind that's at 1440p. Medium settings can provide a 30% perf boost and Low will provide a 100% perf boost. They probably target 1440p 30FPS with an RX 580 such that they can upscale to 4K on a PS4 Pro
All HDDs have small moving parts which is inherently a gamble unless you're personally transporting them from the factory to your computer.
Josiah Cruz
7200 rpm is hard to distinguish from an SSD
Jack Ward
>7200 rpm is hard to distinguish from an SSD Lmao what Maybe half a decade ago, even the cheapest modern SSD destroys any HDD money can buy.
Jaxson Long
HGST and Hitachi, but most brands have ironed out the kinks recently. Check the blackblaze stats
>he actually believes this I almost want to buy you an SSD
Landon Ross
pcpartpicker.com/list/q6FHvn Would you guys consider it a balanced build? I wanna go full AMD this time but i am not sure about what motherboard i should buy since i heard that msi still cant fix their shit and their bios is a hit or miss. Also any opinions about the Pulse 5700?
>falling for the AMD meme You're about to get clowned, don't be a punk motherfucker
Daniel Baker
Buy the B450 Tomahawk (or ideally its updated MAX version), that's generally the best B450 you can go for. Also i'd advice against going with an AMD GPU, the drivers are shit, they're awful for non-AAA shit or older games and you're guaranteed to run into some annoying bugs here and there. 2060S costs just slightly more and the standard 2060 costs less, so i'd say go for one of those.
Isaiah Russell
Who's this clown?
Chase Harris
Don't try to stop him, the only way he'll stop being a punk motherfucker is if he gets clowned badly enough.
Jason Cruz
Are those drivers really the deal breaker? I heard the only issue with them is that they suck at working with older games which is not a big issue to me. Unless there is more to it.
Mason King
Read through the thread, punkass. AMD drivers are literally garbage-tier.
Aiden King
It's not just that, a lot of people are experiencing really bizarre issues like random crashes, freesync problems, flickering, stuttering and so on. Sure there's a good chance you'll be fine, but there's clearly enough people having issues out there that i'd say it's not worth spending almost $400 on a product with such high failure rates.
Grayson Ortiz
I'm a bit short on cash and need a new monitor, so I was thinking about buying a VA panel one. Does anyone have any experience with either of those?
Not him, but people say "drivers" when the drivers aren't at fault at all. Some old games, yeah definitely a driver problem. With newer games it's generally a lack of support from devs/engines. If you're playing AAA you'll get decent perf comparable to (for instance) techpowerup averages, but if you're playing early access type titles or VR games the performance will be much lower. I loved my RX 470. I can't really comment on Navi, but in general, especially with AMD, buying in slightly later is better. Consider all the memory problems they finally worked out going from Ryzen 1000 to Ryzen 2000
Aaron Garcia
Does anyone know if Windows 7 got the Ryzen scheduler update that went out in Windows 10 1903 update?
Witcher: 35 seconds vs 25 seconds ME: Andromeda: 35 seconds vs 21 seconds Project Cars: 11 seconds vs 9 seconds
The HDD is a WD Blue, which is about 20% slower than a Black
Nathan Howard
I'm assuming the purpose of the build is gaming. -The Gaming Pro Carbon AC seems to me like overkill for that CPU. -Are you sure you will need that much storage space? Since SSD prices are constantly falling it might be a better idea to buy only the NVME SSD for now and to buy a second SSD when it becomes necessary.
