ATTENTION: Graphics card prices are excessive by historical standards; therefore, consumers should delay or completely forgo any midrange to high end graphics card purchases. The gouging has two root causes: lack of market competition and shortage/"new normal" pricing during the mining hayday.
Want help? >State budget & CURRENCY >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs based on current pricing: >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on most mobos with the right BIOS) >R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming >R5 2600/X - Good gaming CPU with great value >R5 3600 - Great gaming CPU >R7 3700X - Overkill gaming CPU >R7 2700 - Budget video editing >R9 3900X - Professional tasks
RAM: >Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended >CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3200CL16 is ideal >AMD B and X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP
Graphics cards based on current pricing: >AAA or multiplatform games: Radeon card appropriate for your montior >PC centric or VR games: Nvidia card appropriate for your display >Used RX 570s can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty 1080p 16:9 >RX 570 8GB - good performance with great value >GTX 1660 - standard
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >Don't bother buying a new monitor for gaming unless it's high refresh with adaptive sync >A 250GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor >Bottleneck checkers are worthless
Refurbished actually. Why not? It has i5-3570 and 8Gb ram. I thought It'd be pretty good for 160 euros
Dominic Howard
gaming, but I also use Davinci Resolve/some Adobe suite programs to edit work. I make recordings from my games, stuff from my DSLR, etc. As it is, I have a Phenom II x6 1100T CPU and radeon 7950 3GB GPU. Editing is really slow and gaming is garbage right now. The platinum is only $9 more than the gold of the same wattage/brand type.
Blake Reyes
Heads up for anyone making a dedicated gaming build, tomorrow Intel starts having a bunch of sales on their stuff. If they have the 9700K or 9900K on sale for decent prices, they won't just be the best gaming CPUs, but might also have okay value for once.
Nicholas Nguyen
4 cores and 8gb of ram won't give you smooth gaming, it's kind of a decent deal if you are giving that pc to a child who plays fortnite, emulating or as a office pc if you slap an ssd but not for gaming
Dominic Barnes
>the op line about price gouging is back based
Alexander Campbell
Well you're definitely in desperate need of a major upgrade. For the money you're spending I'd like to see a monitor with more features and better picture quality than a TN. You could save money by dropping to the 3700x, going with a sata ssd, and spending the savings towards a better monitor
Chase Rivera
Yeah but the Prime is better
Jason Ross
Well you're definitely in desperate need of a major upgrade. For the money you're spending I'd like to see a monitor with more features and better picture quality than a TN. You could save money by dropping to the 3700x, going with a sata ssd (unless you need that nvme speed as a scratch drive), and devoting the savings to a better monitor. Also get one of the aib 5700xts
Jaxson Thomas
If I don't really game anymore should I still get a 3700x meme for futureproofing? I have a 2500k still. So I use shit forever. But I'm feeling the itch
Connor Lopez
Yeah but the Prime is better
I have a i5-4570 and it's already choking on games
Brayden Jenkins
>upgrading for no reason Don't bother. Simply ask yourself if your current build is good enough for your use cases. If anything look elsewhere for potential upgrades. Need more SSD space? More RAM?
Julian Evans
if you don't need it now, you don't need it futureproofing is a meme if you wait until you actually need it, you will get a cheaper, better performing cpu than if you "futureproof" now
Zachary Harris
"Never Obsolete"
Hunter Allen
Get and SSD if you don't have one
>tomorrow Intel starts having a bunch of sales on their stuff. Source?
Mediocre if it's used
Looks good although at your budget you should get something higher performing than an RX 5700XT. Having said that, prices are garbage right now so the XT is fine
Probably not because likely the PSU cannot support either of those cards
Eli Cooper
Wait at least until next year before upgrading, 10th gen Intel will be out by then and minimum requirements of new games will likely spike a bit.
William Garcia
best air cooler for the 3900X that's sub-$100?
John Young
>Looks good although at your budget you should get something higher performing than an RX 5700XT. Nah. The Vega 64 performs on par with a 2080Ti when it comes to rendering in Davinci Resolve. So the 5700Xt should perform similarly at lower power usage. And for gaming purposes, it's more than enough.
Also is anyone else getting posting errors?
Henry Hill
I'm retarded, does gpu suck or blow air through their fans? I guess they suck air, to blow it on the cooler, no? I'm thinking of putting a side intake fan, because setting it on the front implies moving several HHDs. Don't be a cheapskate and invest in proper cases, bros. I fucked up with the cheapest raidmax lmao
Leo Mitchell
>Sub $100 Noctua NH-D15 BQ! Dark Rock Pro 4
Literally any top tier air cooler.
Owen Fisher
Vega is a different arch id check a benchmark of it
Isaiah Martin
NH-U14S
Zachary Wilson
Keep going back in the threads until you see C&C Generals. There's a list. No reason to test anything though, because most cases are well documented.
Really? I'm not familiar with DaVinci Resolve, but pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/DaVinci-Resolve-GPU-Roundup-NVIDIA-SUPER-vs-AMD-RX-5700-XT-1563/ >The performance with the 5700 XT reminds us a lot of what we saw in our Photoshop testing. In that case, our contacts at AMD noted that the Radeon RX 5700 XT currently includes software optimizations for gaming, but not yet for office/professional workloads. While it is possible that post launch software optimizations will improve performance in applications, we will have to wait to see if that happens. >What this means is that with the exception of the AMD Radeon VII 16GB (which is no longer being made), NVIDIA GPUs are the clear choice for anyone using DaVinci Resolve.
Mason Robinson
>because most cases are well documented. not on linux
Blake Martinez
what mobos can I use with a ryzen 5 3600 that won't need a bios update to work
Blake Stewart
Well, fans move air in the direction they have pockets towards. The curvatur of the blade, or however you want to describe them. From the first and best google image search with visible fanblades, the curves are inwards towards the card.
Which means its creating over pressure inside the casing, allowing air to flow out and dissipate heat.
Jack Jones
I'm about to pull the trigger on the evga 2070s xc ultra.
Am I going full retard? Was planning to get a pulse or red devil but fuck it I don't wanna wait another month.
May as well just get the 3600. It's twice as good as your 2500k as it is. If your usage is so light that a 2500k lasted you 8 years, then the 3600 should last you 8 years as well.
>will a top of the line gpu pair well with a top of the line cpu no you get a heavy bottleneck and can only run games at 1080p 30fps
Jack Jenkins
How activate windows for free, I cant enjoy my 1440p 155hz gaymen with that uggo watermark
Jaxon Nguyen
How activate windows for free, I cant enjoy my 1440p 155hz gaymen with that uggo watermark
Easton Barnes
HWIDgen. Mimics the upgrade process as if you're trying to go from 7 to 10. Gives you a unique hardware fingerprint based actually legit Windows 10 key
Nathan Smith
hwidgen
Joseph Kelly
How activate windows for free, I cant enjoy my 1440p 155hz gaymen with that uggo watermark
Jayden Stewart
Just buy a chink key of Ebay for 8 bux.
Colton Cook
What's the best/most affordable x570 mobo to pair with a 3700x? Preferably one where you don't have to hear the fucking fan on it all the time.
Hunter Ross
is the b450 tomahawk a good board for a 3700x?
Jeremiah Myers
what is an air cooler that isn't sub $100?
Elijah Campbell
How do i run zen2 on stock on an asus board without their shit aftermarket tuning
Michael Perry
When the fuck are we getting B550 mobos already I can't wait any longer and X570 mobos are overpriced as fuck.
Jaxon Campbell
How activate windows for free, I cant enjoy my 1440p 155hz gaymen with that uggo watermark
Robert Williams
buy an x470 and update the bios
Alexander Hill
Just buy a windows code on ebay for $5
Xavier Jenkins
>no PCIE 4
Cameron Roberts
please respond. I'm thinking of buying the gigabyte aorus elite, is it any decent?
Michael James
Was playing rise of the tomb raider to run the benchmark cause its free with gamepass. The sound was working fine, but then my tv(using it for a monitor since i dont have my powerline adaper yet) turned off due to a gay eco energy saving power bar that turns devices off at random even if you are using them. pc was fine, i plugged it into a diferent socket, but after i turned the tv back on, the sound for the game just didnt work. i dont know what to do
Brayden Ross
kinguin has windows keys for 25 bucks
Juan Parker
You can get one for less than $175, what are you talking about?
Kayden Hughes
Any noticeable difference between the i7- 9700k and the i9- 9900k for gaming?
this is my current build, and i'm looking for a new keyboard. wireless, with good key feel, good build quality, but i don't know if i should go with ten keys, or tenkeyless.
Cameron Mitchell
I have the same mouse. It's sex. Get something better than 60hz for a monitor, at least 120 in this day and age or you are literally wasting money on your GPU.
I bought a Das Keyboard Professional with brown soft-touch switches. After experiencing keyboards, I finally settled on comfort and a more silent keystroke. After a few weeks your loud bright keyboard becomes a horrid chore.
Cooper Moore
Thinking of getting a new GPU, haven't bought anything in almost a decade. What's a good card to go with the 2500k + 430W PSU? Not sure if being old has made the power supply less efficient but I don't want to push it too badly
Jace Sanchez
what are you going to use it for?
Carson Mitchell
RX 570
Jason Powell
1700. No idea why that retard recommended the 2400g over it.
I've never seen someone be so wrong. 1700 crushes the 2400g in gaming and all productivity workloads.
Kevin Bennett
Holy shit lads, I'm so sorry, I kept thinking my post wasnt going through since it gave me an error message. The chan is being mega fucky today
Luke Nelson
You'd need to factor in a new PSU as the supplied one won't have the connectors nor meet the requirements of a dGPU.
And then you need to make sure they don't use some special non standard power connection to the mobo. AND THEN you need to confirm HP has a BIOS update that will support a newer GPU.
I had a dumpster dived HP that never got a bios update and thus would not boot with any newer GPU.
Elijah Martinez
Around 2012 I built my first PC. I managed to get it to work, but in the beginning I had blue screens because I got a bad motherboard. It was very frustrating, especially since Gigabyte sent me the board back saying there was nothing wrong with it. What are the odds of getting another bad part? How common is that with PC building?
Benjamin Mitchell
look at the list in the good OP. check previous threads for the link. This retard keeps removing the useful FAQ to pimp his shitty pcpp builds.
Just get 5700 blower. They're cheap and are just as quiet as the average Nvidia card. Not worth paying another TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS for 15% higher performance over the 5700.
I would be surprised if configurable chipset fan isn't a feature added to the BIOS of all of them.
Soldering heat pipes into a car radiator and using a car radiator fan, but honestly you could probably do it for under $100 if you already have the equipment.
Gabriel Baker
Around 2012 I built my first PC. I managed to get it to work, but in the beginning I had blue screens because I got a bad motherboard. It was very frustrating, especially since Gigabyte sent me the board back saying there was nothing wrong with it. What are the odds of getting another bad part? How common is that with PC building?
Jacob Roberts
What's the correct way to undervolt ryzen 3000?
Do I use an offset in bios? or do I just set a static voltage in ryzen master
Daniel James
So I've been having problems with a videogame. Specifically Destiny 2.
It doesn't matter whether my settings are ultra high, or ultra Low, the fps remains the same at around 100. I asked this on Reddit and what the comments told me where surprising.
>It's your R5 2600, it's bad for gaming and will bottleneck your 1660Ti and D2
Is this true? I have high doubts but I wonder if my 2600 is bottlenecking my 1660Ti bros?
Levi Moore
That game doesn't even run correctly above 60fps. But no, they're full of shit. You can get 150fps+ fine with a 2600 in Destiny 2.
Hudson Bailey
>just buy a 5700 blower Lmfao what a fucking retarded shill. Daily reminder everyone hates you
Levi Gray
would like some help picking a motherboard for my new build, pretty set on a r5 3600 and i'm switching from intel so don't have an old cpu to flash is there any reason to wait for a tomahawk max? or just flash a regular one a usb stick? or are the x570's worth it? trying not to spend more than 100-120ish
Connor Gomez
Is kinguin still a reliable site to purchase windows keys from? last time I bought one from them was 3 years ago, it has served me well.
Chase Reyes
>That game doesn't even run correctly above 60fps. Care to explain dear user
Grayson Bennett
I got a hand me down Saphire Vapor X R9 280X and I have a AOC G22260VWQ6. The problem is between those two and windows10 they don't seem to want to play along. I get terrible screen tearing, a bit of ghosting and when I alt tab my blues turn to orange and my oranges to blue for a split second. I know my GPU doesn't support freesync. Any advice?
Isaac Edwards
Air cooling a 3900x has so far been very dissapointing, I would get the largest AIO your case will fit instead. If air cooling is really important to you I would get a single chiplet CPU instead of the 3900x
Christopher Long
Test
Alexander Brown
I want to buy 580, but I also want to play BoTW and Xenoblade X on cemu. Should I waitâ„¢ for vulkan support? The cheapest 1660 (the non-ti one) costs $80 more so it's a much worse deal. I'm not in a rush to play those games, I just want to make sure they'll run 50-60fps on 1080p with no or minimum graphical bugs
Mason Ward
Where you from
Jackson Ward
What are the advantages and disadvantages of an all-in-one water cooler compared to an air cooler?
Water cooling seems popular these days but air coolers seem to post respectable temperatures at low noise and a lower price.
Kevin Richardson
yeah, spend 3x the money for more noise and the same cooling performance, brilliant
Nathan Torres
>AIO's Size Looks
>Air Cooler Temps Noise Price
Camden Morgan
Im planning on buying a pc on a budget of 1100 ish dollars for low level VR gaming, playing games, photoshop painting and editing, and streaming to friends while playing games. I already made a build, but I'm not sure if the parts fit together or if its even capable of doing any of the things I want it to do.
CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7 GHz Dual-Core Processor CPU Cooler: Thermaltake Water 3.0 Performer C + LNC 81.32 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z170 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3 GB SC GAMING Video Card Case: Apevia X-Mirage ATX Mid Tower Case Power Supply: EVGA BV 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC-3000 PWM 158.5 CFM 140 mm Fan
Alexander Davis
Im planning on buying a pc on a budget of 1100 ish dollars for low level VR gaming, playing games, photoshop painting and editing, and streaming to friends while playing games. I already made a build, but I'm not sure if the parts fit together or if its even capable of doing any of the things I want it to do.
CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7 GHz Dual-Core Processor CPU Cooler: Thermaltake Water 3.0 Performer C + LNC 81.32 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z170 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3 GB SC GAMING Video Card Case: Apevia X-Mirage ATX Mid Tower Case Power Supply: EVGA BV 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit Case Fan: Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC-3000 PWM 158.5 CFM 140 mm Fan
Grayson Gray
1700 hands down. Pretty much all 1700s run at 3.6 GHz without even increasing the voltage.
Jaxon Thomas
Uh, dude. There's no way that's a $1100 build. I've got an i5 6500k/GTX 1070 build up on craigslist for $680 that isn't moving.
Hunter Edwards
Ones cheaper the other more expensive but prices vary with sales. I have an evga clc 280 with two noctuas from a previous build in the radiator and I got the aio on sale so it was no dent in my wallet and I had spare good fans. Others go air because they have cases to fit bigger air coolers, or they need it to make certain case air flow configs work (aio also shares that), aio prices are fucked in their region and other reasons.
Some people dont live in places where getting a warranty and shipping an RMA is easy or they don't feel confident with aios and just want a one and done.
James Williams
Nope, the raven ridge APUs have 1st gen zen cores.