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I wonder why the 3700X is so low.
Not enough stock
Sold out so often.
i have 4690k overclocked to 4.3
will Ryzen 3600 be better?
>another punked and clowned AMDrone thread
sigh...
Yes. You get an overall better platform.
desktop cpu market is a joke, they are getting reamed everywhere else
please take your meds rabbi
>desktop cpu market is a joke, they are getting reamed everywhere else
>increasing CPU market share
>increasing server market share
>increasing GPU market share
>All consoles utilize AMD hardware
Yeah, Intel needs to step up their shit.
3600 is the best value, best choice for most people
Yawn.shit cpu
what do you have?
8700k the last cpu I'll need for years
fair enough, does not make the 3600 bad value tho, or a shit product
It would be about 22% performance increase at the absolute minimum with the Ryzen 3600 when compared to the 4690k stock. What kind of software do you typically run?
You forgot to mention that Samsung recently licensed GPU ip for future use.
Even phones with be AMD powered in the future.
>punked and clowned
It's no fun trying to guess who's a paid shill if you make it this easy.
But... which one is better for adobe stuff??
I'm surprised pissmark is actually less pozzed these days than intelbenchmark
Damn AMD really is annihilating Intel
delid dis
Probably because the 3700 is just as good and is cheaper.
Your GPU
What specific software and what is your budget?
honestly intel need to learn that no one is paying 200+$ to have only 6 threads
and i'm coming from a 2700k cpu, no way i'm downgrading after 8 years
>#1: i7-9700k
???
Incorrect. CPU gets used when rendering out.
> Source - I'm a wedding photographer.
What CPU are you considering to get for an upgrade?
i'm on a r5 2600 since anything else is wasted money considering i'm GPU bound
and i don't trust ayymd claims that 1.45V is safe with their zen2 cpu
i'll skip this generation
There is no 3700 (yet?), they're branding the R7 chips differently compared to Zen+.
Zen+: 2700, 2700X
Zen2: 3700X, 3800X
I fucking love this image.
Yeah that's weird on amazon.com since the Intel Core i7-9700K is first with 229 reviews while the AMD Ryzen 5 2600 is second with 904 reviews. I wonder how the places are calculated, by reviews alone you would think the AMD Ryzen 5 2600 should be first.
I see. I only upgrade every 10 years. So pretty much any CPU will be a big upgrade for me performance wise at this point. The 3600 looks very, very promising performance and performance/price wise. But since I want something that will last 10 years at the very least I will probably wait another year to make sure the 3600 is solid, and to see what is coming in the near future.
if you want to mast another 10 years i'd suggest at least a 8c16t
new consoles are 8cores so 6 cores is about to be obsolete
Current consoles are already 8 core machines.
That's a good point. Thanks
grab a used 2700
I went with a 3700X in the hope that I won't need anything else for 10 years also
If I have a 4770k will 3700x be better?
At least it has 8 threads but it's not gonna last for too long
Literally atom-tier cores
The ryzen 3700x is a very good cpu. But again, what software do you typically run and what is your budget?
Music bee
Sc2 and csgo
Billion tabs on firefox
Microsoft access and excel
Wallpaper engine
I cant currently do all that at once. Have to close programs to run games and music.
get yourself a 3900x
best CPU to play cs go and has plenty of threads to do everything you need without ever closing a single program
Hmm thanks. You don't think 3700x would be enough?
yes but 3900xt will give you more peace of mind
I can see that, but worth 200 dollars extra?
it's all up to you to decide how much do you need the 50% increase of cores and threads
Not everyone is a content producer.
Depends of what you do.
I still have my 4690K rock solid, still use it for gaming, my ryzen upgrade was only for my post production workflow. if you're only gaming in 60fps there is no need.
Hmm I'll think about it. Not sure if I like x570 platform desu. The little fan bothers me alot.
b450 tomahawk max comes pre flashed and ready to go
God I love my 3600.
Thanks AMD for making PC the actual masterrace again
>tfw going from an i7 3770 to a r5 3600
>more than 50% fps gain in some games and no stuttering anymore
What's the difference between the 3700X and 3800X? The latter has a much higher tdp, so I wonder if it overclocks better or something? Is that 65w vs 105w a hard limit of power draw or just by default?
I figure that most peoplewill either need a 3600X for low budgets, either 3700x or 3800x for most gaming and overclocking, or wait for the soon to arrive 3950x which is the full 16 core part . The 3900x is currently available but I don't think it will be a good value or performance vs either the better 8 core or the upcoming 16 core
went from 2500k to 3600. my computer doesn't freeze when i make webms anymore.
>What's the difference between the 3700X and 3800X?
Silicon binning. They should be called the 3700 and 3700X respectively. Naming them like they're different tiers was unnecessary marketing BS.
>The latter has a much higher tdp, so I wonder if it overclocks better or something?
It basically already is an overclocked 3700X. The jump in TDP is what happens when you try to squeeze out a few more mhz at the top end of what the silicon can do.
>I figure that most peoplewill either need a 3600X
Nobody needs a 3600X, or a 3800X for that matter. They're only marginally OC'd versions of their base counterparts.
Shame my 3700X does not score as good in games.
>Music bee
>Sc2 and csgo
>Microsoft access and excel
>Wallpaper engine
The 3700X will be more than enough for all those things, even the 3600 would be a considerable upgrade for you performance wise. The 3700X has 8 cores and the 3900X has 12 cores. I dont thing you will make good use of those 4 or 8 extra cores. Except for:
>Billion tabs on firefox
>I cant currently do all that at once. Have to close programs to run games and music.
I would speculate the 3900X might let you do all that at at once. But don't quote me on that.
I'm looking to buy the 3600 and I'm curious about your experience. On what games did you experience this? Also did you kept the same GPU?
>what games
Total War titles mostly. Could barely run 3 Kingdoms before, now I get 45 fps (campaign map) and 35 fps (battle) avg on ultra settings. Witcher 3 also runs amazing for my graphics card, about 45 fps with everything maxed out and hairworks on. I'm still running the same GPU, yeah - a gtx 1060, though it's showing its age.
interesting
slightly better, but worth.
What's the correct way to undervolt this?
People telling me just enable pbo and auto oc
Some say bios voltage offset
What the best way to figure out your max boost clock?
Undervolting probably won't do anything positive since it throttles its own voltage. If you set a negative voltage offset you'll reduce max performance. Setting a static voltage is even worse since you still limit max performance but also waste power by stopping the cpu from dropping voltage on idle.
So what should I do?
Nothing? Ryzen 3000 effectively manages its own core clock and voltages. Optimizing timings for your memory and the IF in the chip is way more effective at improving performance.
>tfw got a 3700x during a 30m availability window 2 weeks ago
feels good man
I see. Is 3600cl16 better or 3200cl14
It very marginally worse. 8.88 ns vs 8.75 ns.
They have nearly the same latency. CL is in clock cycles, which the 3600 has more of per second while also having higher total bandwidth.
It is, i just upgraded from a 4690k, feels great
I stopped getting weird stuttering in games when I went to 3700X from a 4790k.
That feel when on default settings my 3600 only reaches single core boost clock speeds of 4.1ghz
Gib my 100mhz Lisa ! Reeeeee
I have an i7 3770 with a 1080ti and a 3440x1440 120hz monitor. Battlefield 1 murders my CPU because it will stay at about 60 fps or so and it feels like shit playing like that. I want to keep as close to 120 fps as possible. Will the ryzen 3600 be enough?
I currently have Ryzen 5 2600 on my pre-built PC.
If I buy the 3600, will it be easy to just switch it? I am not very experienced with PC building. did it once.
Can these just be put in plug and play, or do you need to play with thermal pastes and shit like that?
G A M E C A C H E
I had a 4770k overclocked to 4.5 and it felt slow, don't know it windows applied mitigations or not
3900X has been more or less sold out constantly here in Norway. What do people need all those cores for?
What do I need all those cores for?
>Will the ryzen 3600 be enough
Yes. Even if you had a 2080 ti you would be good.
For the near future where, since more cores are affordable and both sides up the core count drastically, programmers finally code for them, instead of single core.
I guess multi core meme is not a meme anymore
Can someone please reply this
Yes
Why is this place full of assholes...
You'll need to do a bios update first. When that completes, you swap out the 2600, and install the 3600. If you use the same cooler as with the 2600 you'll first need to wipe it clean with alcohol and apply new thermal paste on the 3600 before placing said cooler. If you use the new cooler that comes with the 3600, that one has pre-applied paste so you just install it over the cpu and you are good to go. Cheers
It was only a meme because intel sold you overpriced trash bin cpus with 2 and 4 cores and you were on the front line shitposting that bulldozer cores are not real cores so it's still a 4 core cpu. Thus everyone coded for single thread performance and now we are here in 2019 with affordable 12 cores but shit software.
The average poster here is retarded. It's easy to be an asshole when you're posting as Anonymous.
You went from 4770k overclocked to 4.5 to Ryzen 3600 and it felt slow in compariosn? I was wondering if I should "upgrade" my Xeon 1230v3 to a 4770k with OC.
Dude I just went from 4690k to ryzen 2600. The improvement is fucking huge. Don't just look at single core performance, only retards do that.
hmm i wonder why
Imagine if this place had IDs
Thanks so much!
I guess it sounds sensible to just use the new cooler since it comes ready and all, I think they both use exactly same Wraith Stealth one.
If you don't plan to overclock the cpu, the box cooler is perfectly fine, but if you do, you'd want to go with an aftermarket solution.
a 4770k shouldn't be failing you then, you probably just need more RAM
and a browser that's actually built for handling billions of tabs, but I digress
Get something like "the great suspender", tab suspender that unloads them after x amount of minutes with exceptions. Saves some memory