Cuckoldry aside, why wouldn't I pick an iphone over an android device?

Cuckoldry aside, why wouldn't I pick an iphone over an android device?
I like annoymity and security more than anything but it doesn't seem like this is an option with android.
But is there any parametre where android is better than ios?

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flash lineageos to your android and dont flash gapps. then you install F-droid to download microG to get notifications to work and yalp store to download cuck apps if you need them without using the play store. its not perfect but better for privacy than iOS

>I like annoymity and security more than anything
then why the fuck would you buy appleshit
retarded nigger

this.

Default android might not be private enough but unlike iOS, you can modify it.
and please stop thinking apple doesn't spy on users

there is nothing android can do that ios cannot do.
android = for incels
ios = normal people

also android is a hot mess.

niggers will steal your iphone anyways

The main reason I've never considered buying an iPhone is that Apple controls which apps you can install and Android lets you install whatever you want. I have a few apps on my phone that aren't allowed on the Play Store, like NewPipe and Clover. Apple also ban things on the App Store that are allowed on the Play Store like video game emulators and alternate web browsers (that aren't just Safari wrappers.) Yes, you can install non-store apps on jailbroken iPhones, but there's a higher barrier to entry, and hence a smaller market for non-store apps and fewer high quality ones than on Android.

So yeah, if you want to get cucked by Apple, buy an iPhone.

>apple
>privacy

Where did this meme come from anyhow? Apple is as much an advertising company as any of the other big tech corps. It's free money and marketing data to pass up on.

Because iPhones have proprietary software, while you can flash free software ROMs on Android devices. They usually come with proprietary drivers, but at least it's not the whole OS, like on iPhones.
If you care about privacy you should buy a Pixel, flash GrapheneOS and lock the bootloader.

people are stupid and think that paying cash for a product means that the company will say "Oh, well, we made our money, no need for the ads then!". In reality what happens is that you pay for the product and then the company keeps the ads and spyware to make additional money. See also: Cable television, the smart TVs its watched on, and paywalled news websites.

>Where did this meme come from anyhow?
From Apple themselves. I'm more surprised it hasn't died since the Fappening and that FaceTime fiasco.
Here are some sources on what Apple does and you can't do anything to prevent it:
warosu.org/g/thread/S72379333#p72380650

Kek most of the world has android, retard

Iphone is better than android. It's locked down, but not much more than android, and I have a laptop with me 80% of the time that I can use for any real computing needs.
The legion of retards buying a new $1000 model every year ensures that Apple can make its profits without spying. That's the big advantage of it.
That's a lot of fucking work. I'd rather use my time to learn regular linux or programming or anything else.
In the end nobody has time to get into ALL of the Jow Forums rabbit holes. You gotta choose the ones that are more appealing to you. And personally, all that work just to end up with a shitty looking Android phone, even if it's 100% free and secure, it's not worth it.

The secret to making it easy is to not do much with a phone. Treat the thing like a landline. I have a phone flashed with gappsless Lineage, and I didn't even bother with the MicroG crap. It sits on my desk when I go out and all it really does is run Signal. Which handles messaging and voice calls, really the only things you should be using a phone for.

This is a consequence of the fact that the carriers are hostile, and sell location information to basically anyone who asks, gleaned from which towers can hear your phone. No phone can defend against that whenever its not in airplane mode - not an iPhone, not a stock Android, not a flashed Android, not that fancy Librem phone that will supposedly exist soon. And if you're gonna keep your phone in airplane mode you might as well not bother taking it. People forget that up until ten years ago everybody lived like that - if someone called or messaged or whatever, well, you'd see it when you got home, and call back then.

Just buy an iPhone, Android is fucking garbage.

the price
i dont even use my smartshit so that's why its an up for me

beincrypto.com/apple-sued-for-selling-user-data-highlighting-need-for-decentralized-blockchain-solutions/

You're not going to get that on an iPhone either. Pic related is the BIGGEST reason why you should avoid iPhones like the plague. Also price will drop to around $100 next year as the final 2TB card is made.

They collect BSSIDs and GPS data for their network location service.
consumerist.com/2010/06/21/privacy-change-apple-knows-your-phone-is-and-is-telling-people/

They neglected fixing a security vulnerability for three years so law enforcement could use it as a backdoor. Who says they don't the same with iOS?
telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/8912714/Apple-iTunes-flaw-allowed-government-spying-for-3-years.html

They also have a backdoor to remotely wipe phones.
telegraph.co.uk/technology/3358134/Apples-Jobs-confirms-iPhone-kill-switch.html

Apple proposed integrating the fingerprint scanner into the screen so you can't use the phone without giving away your fingerprint.
theguardian.com/technology/2017/feb/15/apple-removing-iphone-home-button-fingerprint-scanning-screen

Apple collects all your call history.
theintercept.com/2016/11/17/iphones-secretly-send-call-history-to-apple-security-firm-says/

We had the fappening happen because it uploads all your images to iCloud. It even sends the files to the cloud without asking for permission.
theguardian.com/technology/2014/nov/04/apple-data-privacy-icloud

Most iCloud data and some data from passcode-locked devices can be provided.
arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/05/new-guidelines-outline-what-iphone-data-apple-can-give-to-police/

tl;dr: Apple is just as bad as Google

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oh no my data. i wasn't gonna do anything with it anyways, but oh no my data.

>parametre
Yes, there is one I can think of: Android allows user-land to view MAC addresses. If I use my iphone to scan my home LAN, I get hosts IPv4's & v6's but no MAC address. Apple, in it's infinite anal retentiveness decided that no iCuck should ever be able to see "technical stuff". It's their way of warding off The HackerMan I guess.

Its not a huge deal, but it's the principal of the matter that gets me.

Why do iPhones lag so much irl anyway? My whole family has them (I have an S10+) and ALL of them lag so bad it makes using them a pain. They're all 8+, X, and XS models too.

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This. It's always been the first thing that comes to mind when people mention iPhones. These things have so little RAM iOS is constantly having to kill apps left and right. Not only that but over time said apps generate cache which cause even MORE aggressive killing of apps.

in my country only teenage girls have iphones

Isn't the CEO of apple -literally- gay?

this
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That's batshit insane how we've managed to cram that much data onto such a small form factor. I remembering paying ~$100 for a 256MB SD card to use with my PDA way back in the day. Fuck I'm old.

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>It's locked down, but not much more than android
Call me when you can do anything like this:
I'll be hearing from you never. And no, it doesn't take hours of your day every day to use a custom ROM, fuck off. Even a pretend tech guru like Linus can do it.
Also:
>The legion of retards buying a new $1000 model every year ensures that Apple can make its profits without spying. That's the big advantage of it
This is demonstrably not true:

>lag so bad
>app takes 2 more seconds to open
wow, so much lag

Cope

>lag so bad
>app takes 2 more seconds to open
>wow, so much lag
And you paid double the price for that, along with not having a micro SD card slot and a headphone jack. Do you think this makes you smarter or something? Not to mention that this isn't the only downside.

Shit adds up and people have shit to do beside waiting for their iLag phone to take it's sweet time to do basic tasks. Those 2 seconds turn into minutes per day and those minutes per day turn into hours per week and those hours per week turn into days per year of fucking waiting.

Some of us actually have lives and jobs, we can't spend days waiting for a piece of shit fruity phone to reload that app we opened up a few seconds ago.

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>Headphone jack
>Still using wired headphones
oh no no no no

>he prefers high quality audio instead of butchered low latency low bitrate bluetooth audio or having to use a dongle like a gay
got em

Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes.
And you know why? Because Bluetooth audio isn't either an alternative or a replacement. Also, why not have both? I mean, you can, but not with Apple.
youtu.be/FxTjwbxRZfQ

>audiophiles
oh no no no no

>let's just derail with buzzwords and bullshit when I have to question if I'm actually right
Great...

If you had watched even 2 minutes of that video you wouldn't look like such a jackass right now.

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>Spending time taking tangled wires out of bag and plugging in phone
>Willingly wastes 20 seconds everyday just to get 2% better audio quality

Wireless chads:
>Take phone out of bag, turn on headphones, automatically connected to phone, took less than 5 seconds

oh no no no no

Haha, epicly meme'd bro!
Hopefully this shuts you up or whatever.

GOT EM!

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Name one bad thing with wireless headphones other than
>muh audio

>USB-C is a hot mess
>not all USB-C cables support both file transfers and audio reproduction
>they aren't standardizded or universal meaning not at plug&play level
>USB-C and wireless headphones are overpriced for no good reason (for the consumer anyway)
>there's one more thing to charge
>and of course don't mention the main thing wrong with it, we don't do that

Honestly though all shit flinging aside wireless is the future but the piss poor implementation of it delayed adoption for me indefinitely. Just look at the fucking latency of this shit.

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iphone users more likely to be gay

>using usb-c
>can’t afford $300
oh no no no

>yes goy, hardware manufacturer apple Just As Bad™ as google whos core business is spying

>Android

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All over again:

>I like anonymity and security more than anything
Then don't get a phone or get a cheap android and flash a new OS
>any parametre where android is better
Freedom to install whatever applications you'd like, freedom to install another OS, and more often than not android phones tend to have more useful hardware/software.

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Apple LITERALLY got caught selling "encrypted" "secure" user data more than once and of spying on users of course. When they feel the burner under their ass they throw the contractors THEY hired to spy/mine user data under the bus and wipe their hands clean only to do it again and again.

At least with Android you can install lineage OS and never install gapps to avoid the google botnet. Now you can't even jailbreak iPhones anymore without removing the apple botnet core soldered onto iPhones via """""security""""" chips.

hongkongfp.com/2017/06/08/china-uncovers-massive-underground-network-apple-employees-selling-customers-personal-d

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>not worth it
says you dude. and btw, 100% free and secure is a lot harder than you think it is, imagine when you actually know something.

The simple fact that I cant use mp3 as ringing signal is enough for me.

ios = depending on the operating system, it's difficult to jailbreak, no expansion, stuck using itunes (unless jailbroken)
android = as there's so many makes and models, getting root access is usually a painless process using TWRP or other tools. use any computer to transfer data.
those are my only reasons.
>ios = normal people
you're right. normies love that shit.. and computer illiterates.

>there is nothing android can do that ios cannot do.
>android = for incels
>ios = normal people
>also android is a hot mess.
Find me a decent alternative to Solid Explorer on iOS then.

>Too poor to afford a REAL phone
>Too poor to afford REAL headphones
It must suck being so poor, hope it gets better faggot.

It's actually WORSE on iPhones, iPhone's 8 BC chip had latency as high as 500ms even when the bluetooth headphones were 12 inches apart.

see
Wake me up once bluetooth does 1.4Mbps lossless audio with 40ms of latency or less.

>oh no my data. i wasn't gonna do anything with it anyways, but oh no my data.
If feel sorry for you that your whole digital life is worthless

>the only things you should be using a phone for
>should
What does this mean? What determines which functionalities of a given device "should" or shouldn't be used? I genuinely do not understand how this statement is supposed to be interpreted and would appreciate if you could try to elaborate for me.

>there is nothing android can do that ios cannot do.
>android = for incels
>ios = normal people
>also android is a hot mess.
Syncthing isn't possible on iOS, so it's shit. You don't control your own files lol

You can wake up now.

Ok what does your digit life contain then? You have a 400 player guild on WoW? Wow dude, your data must be worth much more than mine.

>I like annoymity and security more than anything but it doesn't seem like this is an option with android.
Neither is it with applel.

You don't need lossless you fucking tard ass audiophool.

APPLE IS AN AMERICAN COMPANY YUROPOO

Not him but the maim crux of bluetooth audio codecs is it has to encode lossless audio and then quickly be decoded by a pair of bluetooth headphones in less than 1 ms while using virtually 0 battery life (why music playback on a modern smartphone through bluetooth is 24-72 hours).

This comes with a price of lower quality audio even at exceedingly high 500kbps high latency formats. Compare this to relatively computational expensive (for a phone) Opus audio encoded with level 10 compression (most aggressive audio artifact masking).

The only way around all this is to just losslessly send 16-bit 48KHz sampled audio from the phone to the bluetooth headset but this increases the latency to above 1,000ms AND reduces range to inches instead of feet.

>tl;dr
bluetooth still blows and has a lot of insane engineering problems that must be solved

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Right which supports THE GAYS and their agenda.

Why not just stop being poor and get both.
They each have advantages and disadvantages. Shit it's 2019 just tether one to the other and boom there you have it

see
I like having high quality 4K tranny clown frog porn with me wherever I go. Don't see a 1+ TB iPhone yet.

If you don't like anything the iPhone does, then don't get both???

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fair enough, can't wait for the 2TB card to upgrade to 8K video

THE GAYS HAVE A LOT OF DISPOSABLE INCOME

THEY ARE FREE OF THE ROAST AND HER FRIVOLOUS WAYS

Not if you take into account all the AIDS medication they need to survive. Even the ones that do use it to destroy the white man. Are you ok with that?

>iPhone is better because you have more privacy!
>*Apple is found selling user data*
>lol who cares about privacy XD

>not using VLC app to play youtube ripped mp3s on Android
>buying music from iTunes to sync in iPhone
SHHHHHEEEEEEEEIIIITT
youtu.be/xrFDTkQWzRo

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/fa/ ASFUCK

WHERE2COP CDC PRISONER PANTS

why the fuck do you need disposable income if you're going to get hiv/aids or commit suicide by the age of 30

>This comes with a price of lower quality audio even at exceedingly high 500kbps high latency formats.

There is no proof of this. Even the base codec for bluetooth is practically transparent at 500kbps.

Oh my god it's another dumb person who thinks that security and privacy are acquired by buying apple products when they have been proven otherwise 37000 times before

OP you have no fucking option. Only thing coming out that comes any close to that (by the way it's a piece of shit) is that librem thing. Apple sells your data like the biggest motherfucker there is. I am appalled that people who happen to stumble upon this fucking board don't even know this.

APPLE CONTROLS ALL THEIR HARDWARE AND FIRMWARE, PLUS TOTAL NAZIS ON THEIR SOFTWARE ECOSYSTEM
ITS THE MOST SECURELY LOCKED DOWN DEVICE YOU CAN GET, EVEN THEIR LABTOBS NOW WITH T2 CHIP

ICLOUD HACKS EXIST BUT THEY ARE INCREASINGLY COMPLICATED AS APPLE CONTINUES TO PATCH
AND ALMOST ALWAYS LEADS TO TOTAL DATALOSS JUST ALLOWING RESALE OF THE DEVICE

WHAT THE COMPANY DOES ON THE BACKEND WITH YOUR DATA IS ANOTHER ISSUE
BUT THEY ALL DO IT TO SOME EXTENT SO THAT PARTS A WASH

he thinks iphone dont spy on him

Nope, see hydrogen audio ABX tests. Multiple confirmed 12/16s. How else do you think your phone is able to convert audio on-the-fly with essentially 0 battery drain to your bluetooth headphones which also decode said audio on-the-fly with essentially 0 battery drain? In fact the biggest drain is ironically the transmission of the radio signals and headphone drivers.

See
Also I unlock iPhones including the latest XS Max for protfit. AMA

My job gives me a new iphone every year, never use it. Sits in a drawer until they send me the old one back. Its literally unusable though. Just turning the fucking thing off requires 3+ clicks , a scroll and a swipe, and a swipe. Saying you use an iphone however is a great tell for everyone else to know you are a brainlet not to be trusted to use anything.

Can confirm.

t. personal tech for macfag/iToddler family hopelessly in perpetual debt

iPhone doesnt have clover. Thats enough for me

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>I like annoymity and security more than anything but it doesn't seem like this is an option with android.
neither is that an option with ios retard

Because they're poor, not because it's better

That's the biggest paradox ever if you think about it. Most americans have their iTrash through credit (ie money they literally don't have). Isn't that why apple released a credit card? To help

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It's the BIGGEST downside for me switching to an iPhone. How do you iToddlers deal with so much lag 24/7? I would honestly considering blowing my brains out if I had to deal with THAT much constant reloading and loading time.

Because iOS is a piece of shit if you want to do more than check facebook and install shovelware games from the app store

>Kernel-level locking of the HTML DOM while the screen is touched
>The platform itself feels like a schizophrenic kafka-esque maze of decisions because the average user can't be trusted to not fuck their shit up
>Severe lack of poweruser software for the platform, the phone feels less like a computer, more like a media player.
>Can't install software from third party sources without hacking the phone
>No alternative to Objective-C and Swift for development
>Xcode is basically mandatory for development, which only runs on OSX
>Apple retains the ability to manage your apps remotely, including uninstalling Apps it removes from the store.

The only reason to have an iPhone is to test applications you publish to the App store. The only reason to publish shit to the App store is because Apple users dump a little bit more money into the software on the phone.

I really wanted to not hate Apple. For the longest time I just denied myself from admitting my true feelings about this shitty fucking ecosystem. Yeah, as a platform where "safety" is defined as "somewhat hard to install malware unknowingly", the iPhone okay. But that's the only thing it's okay at. It's shit for everything else.

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>buy a pixel
Are you serious?