ATTENTION: Graphics card prices are excessive by historical standards; therefore, consumers should delay or completely forgo any midrange to high end graphics card purchases. The gouging has two root causes: lack of market competition and shortage/"new normal" pricing during the mining hayday.
Want help? >State budget & CURRENCY >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs based on current pricing: >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on most mobos with the right BIOS) >R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming >R5 2600/X - Good gaming CPU with great value >R5 3600 - Great gaming CPU >R7 3700X - Overkill gaming CPU >R7 2700 - Budget video editing >R9 3900X - Professional tasks
RAM: >Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended >CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3200CL16 is ideal >AMD B and X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP
Graphics cards based on current pricing: >AAA or multiplatform games: Radeon card appropriate for your montior >PC centric or VR games: Nvidia card appropriate for your display >Used RX 570s can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty 1080p 16:9 >RX 570 8GB - good performance with great value >GTX 1660 - standard
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >Don't bother buying a new monitor for gaming unless it's high refresh with adaptive sync >A 250GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor >Bottleneck checkers are worthless
Is it true Corsair ram should be avoided with AMD build? Anyone got an alternative to offer?
James Miller
not anymore, but it works, gotta edit some regs though
Mason Johnson
Do you remember the Hz value in your OSD jumping around a bunch? It seems to work fine, but I'm just wondering if it actually is.
Ian Gray
Also, did you switch Monitor or GPU?
Brandon Perry
Just put the 9700K on the list. It's a good buy depending on the use case.
Colton Reed
yeah, ant lag doesn't work when your processing time is under 15ms already, you are not a superhuman to feel that can you run more than 2 games at stable 144hz though? oh and youa re still pushing "it's been around for ages" meme, just like nvidia anti lag that been around for 10 years right?
Anthony Perez
I guess if you don't care about gaming/image quality, you can go with a TN since that should be cheapest. I don't think ultrawide is a meme if you simply want space. I guess it doesn't need to be high refresh rate either and just 60Hz will do.
The issue with gaming usually is that it's often not supported by games and can be fucky.
Samuel Edwards
GPU
you mean not synced to FPS? it flickered in loading screens for me, that's it
Ryan Kelly
just say gaming
Jordan Rogers
The back of the my 2080 super says min requirements are 650w. I have a seasonic 750w on the way. Is that enough?
How can I improve my build, also what case would be appropriate - the bigger the better, must have front bays for CD drive, accessible USB 3.0 would be very handy as well. Will likely be a 3950X instead of the 3900. Solely for high end music production and film scoring - I am aware of the latency of the 3900 (and presumably the 3950) - I use high enough buffer settings to not be effected.
Are there any 64gb RAM kits with good timings that are under 500$ (maybe 600) ?
Ryan Williams
Yeah, like it will jump 20Hz lower than FPS randomly like in this video, where it jumps to 119Hz, but I didn't notice anything "bad" or tearing, so just wondering if that's normal or if it should always be synched like with Freesync
hm, may be because you essentially overclock it, FS range is 35-90 by default try running stable 144hz at 60fps, I promise you won't notice a difference.
Justin Lopez
Lads, will a 3600 be enough for the next few years for 1440p gaming?
Ah, I guess you didn't overclock? Maybe it just needs a bit more tweaking. Thanks for the help. Really hard to get such specific info and no one seems to care anymore since it's been available.
Owen Rodriguez
depends what PSU at what rating but you can't go wrong with seasonic.
Oliver Hill
Pic related seems like a pretty good deal Has decent reviews too.
Your build looks fine. You should get the phanteks enthoo case - really nice stuff. The only thing is your video card is underpowered. You should get a minimum of a rx 500 series (maybe a 560) unless you’re using very old software; if you’re using old DAWs why even get such an overkill build for them. VSTs are a little more demanding on graphics than they were a few years ago, especially when you have multiple windows open. As far as ram kits you may have luck getting a used one at that price unless there’s a huge drop
Camden Gutierrez
>I guess you didn't overclock? I didn't run it for long, so it may behaved same way as yours. As I said I can't tell the difference between running freesync and stable 144hz at 60fps, I even think stable 144hz looks a bit better. am I just blind or you experience the same with this monitor?
Luis Young
I see, any reason why? My estimated wattage is 404w right now, so I admit a 650 feels like it could be kind of low? But i've never built a PC before so i'm a bit worried over it all.
ah also, because seasonic actually produces PSUs, EVGA just rebrands them
Cooper Morgan
Tbh, yeah, I have the same experience and also wonder if I'm just blind. I notice it in tests like the windmill thing, but in games running things at 60 fps @144Hz everything looks just fine and for the longest time I wasn't convinced that freesync was even working.
Nicholas Roberts
650 is enough, specially gold one.
Camden Rogers
My old 1060 actually is a huge bottleneck whenever I have more than 3/4 fabfilter/high gfx VSTs on screen with my master analysers, especially when they are on different screens, dropouts galore. What would be a suitable GPU for dual monitors, potentially having say 20/30 Pro Q's/Span/Totalyser/Insight on fast movements open at once (just for the sake of argument). I am using Ableton, which is terribly optimised but the workflow is good (for me). I would not be opposed to spending decent money on a decent GPU as long as it is quiet and performs well for the next few years.
That case looks nice - do you know if it has dust filters?
John Lewis
Replaced my 2070s and got a red devil. Not bad and I got 90$ back
I ran native freesync for couple days since getting 5700xt, and switched back to 144hz today. nope still can't tell the difference aside from desktop feels way better at 144hz than 90hz. so I guess gsync/freesync is only good for low end monitors of around 75hz.
Noah Cox
how do you guys fix your GPU sag is buying something like this worth it
hmm if your old 1060 is giving you issues, i'd go with the radeon rx 5700 with 8gb. I personally use an rx 560 with 4 gb and don't have any issues, but i'm also on Cubase 7 from 2013 so >werks on my machineTM
and yes, the case does have dust filters. I used it to help my friend with a threadripper build for grad school and it's awesome. it looks way better than the photos online would have you believe, too. great case all the way around. make sure you get whatever the model is with sound dampening
William Miller
Do you happen to have Ark Survival Evolved and feel like comparing your performance with this youtu.be/xH3TQn3sotI?t=578
Just wondering if it's really that abysmal (1440p, High settings with max resolution scale)
Ethan Morris
in my experience the new 1060 6gb punches well above its weight if you fully overclock it, not expensive
Jace Lee
my GPUs don't sag. I ran mostly Asus and Sapphire for the last 7 years, maybe that's why
Noah Rogers
Haha, same. I turned off freesync at some point (before OCing) because desktop at 144Hz feels so much better.
Sadly I do not but I'm playing MHW at max setting on 1440p and I'm around 60-65 which is normal unless I had that nivida setting on
Justin Myers
1.Price 2.All my monitors are free sync (I'm aware of gysnc but the guessing game is going to be a pain in the ass when getting a better monitor in the future) 3. Hackintosh for work, I work in mobile apps and I refuse to get ass raped on a macbook
Joshua Rivera
yeah cubase is a lot better optimised, i guess because of the ASIO buffer - but also Ableton is just terrible at it. I'm not really concerned with the way it looks, just noise levels and airflow. I'll look into the newer RX series'. Thanks a lot.
Robert Morris
>AA - Epic found your performance idiocy. I bet the game runs at 120fps+ at least at 1080p without that AA level.
Jonathan Ortiz
is the 2700X worh it? looking at camelcamelcamel it seems like it's never been cheaper on amazon I only do programming (heavy multithread stuff, want 8C/16T) and light gaming, potentially edit photos from time to time
Angel Long
>is the 2700X worh it? for cheap? absolutely
Caleb Gonzalez
I'm finally ready to buy parts and get a new PC built. I had already come here previously for a parts list since I was picking out monitors and wanted to get an idea of what to aim for, but things have changed a lot since then for CPUs and GPUs, especially with the new Ryzen chips.
So, can someone help me with a build? I'm looking for a build that can power 1440p 100+ FPS while ALSO streaming/multitasking. My budget is flexible but I'm looking for something in the range of $2k USD. I'll post the previous parts list an user gave me before the new Ryzen stuff came out to give you an idea of what I was aiming for:
To give some more detailed info on what I'd like help with: >CPU and GPU obviously need to be changed. I'd like to be able to hit 100FPS in most games even when streaming, though I don't often play excessively demanding AAA games anyway. >I do need a case, my current one is trash. Preferably something with easy access for cleaning or troubleshooting. >Ignore the HDD, I'm planning to go full SSD. 2-3TB of storage is plenty for my needs, but I'm curious if NVMe is worth considering or not
>but are two fan models alright? no, the chip is giant
Jacob Jones
Post feminine penis
Christian Ramirez
Rx5700 by a mile.
Bentley Barnes
post feminine feet
Jace Perry
so basically hold off on buying them until a 3 fan model is in stock?
Xavier Powell
how is this even a question? regular 5700 is 2060S level +-2%
Cameron Wright
I doubt it. The AA doesn't seem to change much in this game. It's just an unoptimized mess. Shadows have a much greater impact. Also, I was specifically asking about 1440p.
Asus 2070 super (3 fan model) or EVGA 20760 super (also 3 fan model)?
Dylan Cooper
>The AA doesn't seem to change much in this game. it usually does, and it doesn't look like FXAA don't have the game either, so can't tell for sure how it would run on my settings
Angel Phillips
5700xt 2 fan model.
Tyler Gray
>1440p max settings >60-65 What a badly optimized game. Hopefully Iceborne is better performance wise.
Henry Bennett
Apart from the ram speed and timings, what brand should I get and does it even matter? I'll be using a 3600
Isaac Collins
Okay but if I have to get a 2070 super, which one? >But why do you have to get a 2070 super Just answer the question
Xavier Ross
evga>asus in terms of quality control and customer support
Noah Bell
What's a good aftermarket cooler for the 3600? I want something better than stock but still affordable.
Camden Anderson
hyper 212 evo
Austin Hernandez
Hyper 212 Evo
Jack Bennett
>capcom >fixing shit Without that nivida only setting the game will run like a console, I gave up on even attempting to bother with higher frame rate due to how off shit looked in dliss mode
Jeremiah Lewis
Try not to go any slower than 3200 cl16
Jackson Watson
PCcooler GI-X5B is probably one of the best budget coolers around
if asus is strix then asus if lower model than evga but really evga RMA is so good only because you have to RMA half of them.
Josiah Hughes
Thanks, this is about what I expected and it looks like it'll work perfectly fine. One thing though, I still want to swap out the HDD for an SSD. What's a good 1TB or 2TB SSD? I want to compare the prices of the two.
Camden Morales
You've got another m.2 slot you could use, so you could go Intel 660p. 1TB is currently $95 and 2TB is $185 on newegg.
Jose James
I see, thanks. I'm just trying to work out how to round out the rest of my build and right now CPU cooler is the only thing eluding me I guess. I might go with a 212 evo I guess.
Jacob Nguyen
Pls respond bro.
Brandon Hill
try dark rock pro 4 or noctua nhd 15 it's overkill but chances are it will cool passively at 0 Db most of the time and you can reuse it if you decide to upgrade your cpu
Landon Reed
>seagate hdd oof >RGayB ram switch it for ballistix sports 3200mhz cl 16 >NVMEme get a bigger 2.5" sata for the same price
Brayden Rodriguez
I'm using Corsair RAM with my 3700X right now.
Brody Turner
Thanks user, that's perfect, and it comes in at just the right price point.
Dominic Mitchell
What's wrong with seagate?
Jeremiah Bennett
nothing only issue I have with your build is expensive cooler when one half the price would do you better
Alexander Gomez
It's not my build but I was thinking of getting a seagate HDD.
Ethan Clark
Don't know how it works but does the tomahawk max have enough fan headers to power the 3 fans from the meshify s2?
Christopher Diaz
Bear in mind that it is QLC NAND, so as long as you're using it more for storage rather than a primary drive, you should be good to go.
Ian Long
It's my build. Could you recommend me a cooler?
Ryder Ross
I haven't seen people complaining about high voltages and/or burnout on their ryzen cpus in a few weeks. Was that all a meme?
what would you suggest if I cant get my hand on a SSD Adata ? I thought about Samsung SSD 860 EVO 500 Gb + Crucial MX500 2 Tb. Samsung for main drive and Crucial for Games.
Connor Mitchell
Noctua NH-U14S
Daniel Peterson
How does the 5700XT ROG-STRIX Asus compare to Saphire pulse and Red Devil ? its more pricey so it should be better right ??
