I own both models but heavily prefer the elitebook.
Both were neck and neck competitors back in 2011. but now 8 years have past and its time to discuss what is better option.
The I/O in the elitebook was much more forward thinking, includes 2 usb 3.0 ports ans 1 always on power usb 2.0 port which is able to fast charge my android phone from 2019, and displayport which can connect to hdmi TVs
The keyboard on the thinkpad is slightly better but elitebook is not bad at all. However the mouse nub (thing center in keyboard) is much better and more accurate than the thinkpad.
The accessories on elitebook and thinkpad are similar, both have a slate battery and docking station. However, the accessories are much cheaper (like 75% cheaper) for elitebook not to mention slate battery on elitebook lasts longer too.
Both laptops are business oriented therefore being modular by design, however it is easier to replace components on the elitebook.
Both devices are also able to run a coreboot bios.
>the mouse nub (thing center in keyboard) is much better and more accurate than the thinkpad I don't believe this.
Bentley Garcia
>2011 who gives a shit about your dinosaur typewriters grandpa
Alexander Brooks
So what's the best modern laptop? Dell Latitude?
James Sanchez
T420 also have display port. Do you even touched that laptop?
Ethan Cruz
God that era of HP Elitebook design was kino as fuck.
>tool free chassis >better build than the T420, had LCD rollcage that lenovo dropped after the T61 >glass touchpad
Lack of middle click trackpoint is a deal killer though
Mason Cooper
>The I/O in the elitebook was much more forward thinking, includes 2 usb 3.0 ports ans 1 always on power usb 2.0 port which is able to fast charge my android phone from 2019, and displayport which can connect to hdmi TVs T420 also have always on usb which you can toggle from bios, display port, and you can use an express card if you really want usb 3.0
also >HPoo has no fingerprint sensor >that shit keyboard fucken dropped
Chase Murphy
yes
Adam Morris
>2011 >dinosaur planned and obsolescent >Lack of middle click trackpoint is a deal killer though this and the chiclet keyboard looks like garbage with the keys crammed on the right kinda wish you could swap these from other models or something
Hunter Scott
>8460p What's wing we 2570p? Personally in think it's X230 killer
Jacob Flores
i have had 2 6460b's and 1 8460p It's the apex of HP laptops, it only goes downhill after that. I also have Broadwell proobook which is utter plastic shit
Jaxon Morris
>>HPoo has no fingerprint sensor mine has, wtf?
Jonathan Butler
Dell laptops are not they're all chalked up to be. I have the Dell Precision M4800 and its charging port allows too much wiggle room. The Laptop ends up turning off at random intervals when used without the battery.
Ethan Hernandez
i own 5 (five) thinkpads and a macbook air i use the macbook air only
Jeremiah Hernandez
I'm and my M4800 is maxed out specs wise. I find myself using a my Chromebook more often than not.
Logan James
Well for my occupation, its impossible for me to use a chromebook, minimum i need an i7 processor due to very intensive manipulation to dataframes and compiling programs in linux/python. I also find that tlp battery mode makes my machine very cool
Brandon Wood
I am autistic and care about coreboot compatibility but in theoey it is better than both machines
Aiden Murphy
Thinkpad autists should keep dreaming about get slate batteries this cheap.
>>that shit keyboard people overrate the shit out of the 20 series keyboards just because they don't look like chiclet and thus therefore must be better
i have an x220 and 2 HP Compaq models (business line). the HP models are so much better built than the thinkpad.
not that it means much these days as both are fucked. latitude is the way to go now.
Carson Sanchez
the keyboard isn't superior because of the individual keys only but because of the layout of the keys are superior.
Thomas Gonzalez
>Ubuntu 16.04 Stop running outdated software.
Jacob Murphy
Got latitude from previous Thinkpad. Thinpaf prices this days are just terrible, a new non workstation Thinkpad cost a lot of money. Unless you require a workstation latitudes are very good and dell support is both better than hp and Lenovo.
Luis Brooks
>Shitpad cucked BIOS at stock, unlocked BIOS is nice but >having to flash unlocked BIOS Also more expensive, looks better but built worse >Elitebook Fucking shit keyboard, nuff said. Also looks meh, but atleast has a decent build to it. >Latitude Easily the best, balance looks and build, no cucked whitelist, good I/O, superior dock, superior KB on vs later model shitpads, and mid tier price out of the 3
Camden Brown
>Latitude >Not Precision Poor as fuck
Isaiah Young
>768P can smell the pixels from here >CAD Mine was $19 USD NIB, with my old Zbook 17 G2 I could get around 6-7 hours
Thomas Martinez
M6800 (crystalwell chink modded) is for my shit tier drawing and AutoCAD meming, E6440 is my daily (as 15 hours battery with dual 9cells) and outside of the eh touchpad its very usable, shame it looks kinda ugly
Cooper Myers
Of course the dumb Redditor isn't interested in talking about modern hardware. HP's Elitebooks don't have soldered RAM like newer ThinkPads do.
Colton Flores
I got a Elitebook 2560p (I think its a 2012 device) and a T450s (2015?). The Elitebook has WAY better built quality. I know its not a direct comparison. I used a Elitebook 2170p, too, which is one year newer than 2560p and the built quality is already way worse than thr 2560p- The 2560p and the 8460p would have been perfect machines if only there was an IPS option...
I don't know why anyone pretending to want a durable laptop in 2015+ would buy a new Thinkpad The EliteBooks aren't meaningfully better, I don't see taking it apart.
>Precision Mobile Workstation Aww yeah, absolute beautiful brutes.
Dominic Murphy
Also, what is that, I can see it's the M4x00 15" model, but what gen is it?
Julian Hughes
>elitebook >ubuntu 16.04 >BRAVE browser
Justin Price
>Dell laptops are not they're all chalked up to be. >I have the Dell Precision M4800 and its charging port allows too much wiggle room. >The Laptop ends up turning off at random intervals when used without the battery.
You own an M4800, it's literally built to have anything and everything replaced and or upgraded.
How much does your LCD hinge wobble? My M4800 hinges are really loose and I can't figure out how to tighten them.
Joshua Lewis
The top of the display assembly moves about 6-8mm back and forth before being caught by the hinge. There are 3 screws on the top of the hinge, you can see the holes for them. 1 is on the bottom of the laptop and 1 on the back. Obviously you have to take the palmrest off to get to the top ones.
Andrew Wright
I should add, I didn't take the display assembly apart. I also have a T61p, it has something like 4-5 more screws attaching each hinge to the display and they all also have to be tightened. If you don't use thread locker when you put it back together like they do from the factory, you're just wasting your time. Each hinge probably has a total of 10 screws to tighten.
James Bennett
>2011 no thanks i want my laptop usable
Kevin Parker
>The top of the display assembly moves about 6-8mm back and forth before being caught by the hinge. Okay, so it's the M4800 hinge design being shitty. Thanks user.
Eli Baker
I own a 8470p and honestly except for the shit 1366x768 display (which is fine, its matte, but try looking at it every day for hours on end, especially when its the least bit sunny outside) - and the bottom THICC, its completely manageable.
The clasps on top are great, the chassis is rock solid, mine is made in the Czech Republic, not China, the keyboard is fantastic in my opinion, I don't use the nub, and there's no need to unscrew anything to open it up, except for 3 screws for the fan.
I use mine for charging my iPhone SE at 1A since I have English classes online (I teach via my phone), and it's conveniently placed on the right, while I mount the phone on the clasp above as pic related
too expensive, cant be bothered to dick around with it, especially since i plan on changing it in two to three years. i also have a 8460p at my dad's, so this one will probably go to my mom
Aaron Baker
I was suspecting so, based on the primary HDD tray, but those came through on the 4700s and 6700s as well.
I own an M6800, It mostly lives on its dock though. It's really a shame that Dell went and fagged up the Precisions after that gen.
Eli Kelly
what's wrong with the newer precisions
Charles Gray
>what's wrong with the newer precisions
Because they try to make them ultrabooks
Dylan Bell
How the fuck does this look like an ultrabook to you?
>Only one 2.5" bay, not even quick change >No real dock, have to use Thunderbolt or WiGig >Screwed in battery >No attachable extra battery modules
Are we building a professional grade workhorse, or are we building a high spec ultrabook for a department head who managed to bamboozle his boomer boss into buying him an expensive laptop?
Josiah Bailey
Your only valid complaints are the battery, and it's not like the M4800/6800 lasts any significant amount of time on its battery even with a slice. You'd have to cycle 4 or 5 batteries to match modern ultrabook battery life with it, which a laughably absurd scenario.
The 7730 can be specd with up to 4 SSD slots, so you get nowhere complaining about limited expandable storage and it has all the ports needed to make a dock unnecessary because it's not an ultrabook.
Charles Harris
>No real dock, have to use Thunderbolt or WiGig >2019 >wanting to buy proprietary docks
>Dell They fucking put DRM in chargers. Fuck them.
Blake Turner
Just because it is still supported doesn't mean it's not outdated. Install Ubuntu 19.04.
Angel King
Problem?
Colton Sanchez
>it's not like the M4800/6800 lasts any significant amount of time on its battery even with a slice. My M6800 gets somewhere around 2.5 hours on the main battery, and an extra three with the slice, could probably stretch it further if I ran it in hybrid GPU mode, instead of Quadro only.
>match modern ultrabook battery life Nobody was asking for that out of MOBILE FUCKING WORKSTATIONS
>up to 4 SSD slots, so you get nowhere complaining about limited expandable storage 1) There is no longer a toolless removable primary drive 2) The ability to have on board redundant magnetic storage is crucially important on a MOBILE FUCKING WORKSTATION
>it has all the ports needed to make a dock unnecessary because it's not an ultrabook You really don't know the reasons dock ports were put in the base of business laptops, do you?
Again, this is a specialized piece of business hardware, this is not just another laptop for some fuckstick in a cubicle, you buy those people Latitudes with i5s in them.
You buy theses things for your field service engineers, or if you are a professional photographer or videographer who's always on the road.
These things are like Armored Personnel Carriers, and fucknozzles like you and and are trying to sell me a goddamn minivan.
Nolan Ramirez
i have an x200 and a t420. layout aside, the tactile feel of the x200's keyboard (which i acquired first) is already very good but the high praise for the -20 series keyboard is well deserved.
Daniel Parker
The 8460p is still the standard-issue laptop at the large-scale US vehicle testing company that I work at. I've never had so many stability issues as I've had with these machines. Although that could be due to our IT team being half drugged-out and stuck in 2012.
Mason Nelson
T420 can run 4 monitors (panel and 3 external). how many can HP use?
Hudson Carter
The right mouse button functions as a scroll if you hold it down. I only realized that after being forced to use one for 3 years.
Brayden Morgan
lel look at that trackpoint interface no middle scroll button
you have to be a special type of special to unironically have design that shitty might as well not have a tackpoint at all