Previous thread: Don't buy anything OTHER THAN IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T, X, and W/P Series if you want the Real Business Experience™ >Other business laptops are welcome in /tpg/ (Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
Why ThinkPad? >Used machines are plentiful and cheap >Excellent keyboards >Great durability (excl L and E series) >Utilitarian design >Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop >Most models are easy to repair, upgrade & maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model and spare parts are easy & cheap to obtain >The best TrackPoint™, easier to use when typing >Good for Hackintoshing
Models before *40 series can be Corebooted
Modern models: >X220/X230 - 12", 768p, cheap >T420/T430 - 14", 900p, widely available for a good price, socketed CPU (Ivy Bridge CPU support on T420); Quad Core Compatible >T520/530; W520/530 - 15", 1080p, DTR, 32GB RAM on quadcore models, USB 3.0 >T440s - best price/performance ultra portable >T440p/540p; W540/1 - Last Thinkpads with socketed processors, easily replaceable trackpad (W541 doesn't need trackpad replacement)
There's now 3 general threads. Good job, you idiot.
Andrew Scott
You seem to have forgotten where you are. Retard haven
Kayden Miller
what quad core did you use? i7-47xx or i7-48xx?
James Russell
If I get this job I'm intervieweing for should I set aside $200 every month in my budget to buy a T420?
Justin Sanchez
Ordered an x395 today. Was wondering if the type C charging port can be used with a USB-C hub that will charge it as well as add HDMI/USB/LAN ports
Carson Jenkins
Yes.
Jose Morris
It will
Caleb Baker
Thinking about some of the new X models. X390 looks nice. Without Yoga. Any thoughts?
Easton Turner
Not sure if here is where to ask, but looking for a laptop for school. Would like to have the ability to run some basic games like cuphead, csgo, hotline Miami, etc. But other than that basic school work, excel spreadsheets, etc. Not sure what to look for and what is a good price. My problem is when it gets to the point where I think something looks good, it's in the $1000+ range which at that point I figure I could just build a new PC
Justin Garcia
>build a new PC Do that instead.
Andrew Morales
I mean, my current pc is still working well, but if getting a laptop is not worth it I will probably do that, if that's the case any suggestions for the cheapest laptop that can handle microsoft office i.e. excel, powerpoint etc. and do other basic things like stream, preferably around the $500 or lower range? The cheaper the better, just means more $$ saved that can go towards upgrades/new pc build/ savings
John Ortiz
get a t480 or t480s
Easton Reed
2 part question
1. Are any of the thinkpad pens worth a damn for notes and or sketching on.the go.
2. Anyone have or try one of the thinkpad chromebooks, they look fun and are stupidly cheap on ebay.
Charles Powell
why would u want that many?
Oliver Morgan
Question? What is the most powerfull thinkpads that can run libreboot?
Also what is coreboot? BTW, pic is the thinkpad of camera, imhomo
I want a Thinkpad for Uni. I need something that can hold two or three VMs at the same time (server and clients), but I want it to be as lightweight as possible.
I probably need at least 16GB of RAM and an upgradable option for both RAM and disk drive.
Also I prefer smaller laptops (between 13'' and 15'' is fine).
What should I go for? I would pay up to 1200€ for one.
Charles Carter
Hey fellas, I'm looking at a t440s for about 300$CAD, reasonable deal?
It's off ebay, used, light wear and tear.
lmk if you want additional details.
Thanks.
Nathan Torres
Used P50 or P51. That's alright if the screen is FHD and has at least 8GB RAM.
Christopher Lewis
Hey, CS:GO is surprisingly gpu heavy, I was surprised to find that(I used to play a lot of CS:S which could run on any average pc at the time) Cuphead and hotline miami will be much easier to accomodate.
You should look for something second hand if you want to play vidya, best bang for your buck. lol "14 HD+ anti-glare (1600 x 900)" sounds HD enough, but idfk much about monitors.
Mason Morris
That screen's pretty shit and a FHD one is another $70USD.
Colton White
Is it bad enough that it would be a horrible experience to use, or just not ideal? desu as long as it's like 7/10 I'm fine with a mediocre screen.
Samuel Nelson
x200, x201 or x220 ?
Lucas Butler
Anything older than 220 is wasted money Even the x220 is practically obsolete if you care about mobility and have more money
Angel Russell
Why the fuck does Lenovo insist on putting trackpoints on Thinkpad laptops when the trackpoint has been useless for decades now? The recent X390 still has the stupid nipple when they should have made a better and larger touchpad instead.
Cameron Peterson
HP and Dell still have them too on their nonshit machines. There's clearly some demand for it.
Nicholas Thomas
>using zenmap instead of a CLI Based
Liam Sanders
>Used P50 or P51. Will look for it, thank you
Brody Ramirez
Thank you, im actually leanrning bou kali linux, recently i started getting around msfconsole
Christian Gutierrez
Whats the best thinkpad for /sec/ reasons? Assume a trial run of a completely secure laptop
Adam Edwards
Notebooks are supposed to be crippled shit. If you don't need mobility, build a PC for performance and buy a cheap Thinkpad for portability. Doing everything with one machine is limiting! I have a P52/Xeon/70GB RAM but bought it because I like VMs and overkill. I'll still never give up my desktop.
Jaxson Clark
Fun until the internet needs 128GB per browser Windo then your pile will be as relevant as my T61 fleet.
Dylan Morales
There is a big difference between 1066 and 1333mhz for ram ?
Thomas Lewis
Yeah you are right, any good cheap recommendations for a basic office/excel/netflix laptop? I dont know much about secondhand laptops or laptops in general, I've always stuck to desktop minus a macbook I had 10 years ago in hs
Jayden Allen
I found a T430 for $290, T440p for $330, and a T440p with an i7 and 12GB ram for $430, all refurbished
Ayden Edwards
You should be aware that laptop panels degrade over time; you will need to be ready to replace their polarizer filters. Watch this fully, to understand the problem: the keywords for it are "vinegar syndrome". youtube.com/watch?v=zbrW7uUYpkw You often find very old ThinkPads with this problem. If it is not the lamp, it might be this. Replacement of a damaged polarizer filter is essential to fix old panels, together with LED strips or CCFL lamps.
Liam Gray
Trying to game on a laptop is what throws off your budget. I personally would recommend gaming on a dedicated device if you are that driven to play game on the go. Buy a psp, ipad, or nintendo handheld.
What is your total budget? You can get a solid laptop for around ~400. either a decked up t440p, or you can buy a 2012 macbook pro-those are pretty awesome with upgradeable ram and harddrive. downside is the screen, but it has the current mac os. I would buy a solid laptop, and game on a different device.
why are you shilling this video so hard?
probably a pre-blob laptop with core 2. IDK if libreboot of the other open source firmwares get rid of that shit. I wonder how deep you need to go before CIA niggers are remotely booting up your bios or whatever.
Grayson Campbell
i was thinking of trying for a tx10 line, or maybe even a t60.
why are t60's so expensive?
Oliver Rodriguez
Yeah, I responded before at this point I just want a school laptop for excel and basic things, dropped gaming, what specs should I be looking for a T440p, I found a i7, 12GB ram, 512 SSD and I assume a 1366x768 resolution screen for $430 refurbished, or for $330 it is an i5 with 8GB ram refurbished
Justin Robinson
I bought a t440p on ebay for $125. There are differences between serial numbers. You can upgrade the processor, so you will probably save money buying a i5 and putting in your own i7. These laptops had models with dedicated graphics, 730 graphics or something like that. It is respectable for it's age. However, it doesn't play nice with linux or mac os.
I have a totally decked out 440p and it was around $400. You can get an awesome screen off ebay for like $40 bucks or so.
Jacob Hall
Okay and is it pretty easy to work on, etc? I dont need to be able to solder or anything right? Sorry new to this, that price was from microcenter near me refurbished but if I can find on Ebay for around $100 do you think it will be easy enough/worth? If so I assume it cant be much harder than building a PC, adult legos
Andrew Kelly
Also sorry for asking a bunch if questions, just dont want to buy a beater for $100/not know how to upgrade or fix it and it be useless to me then end up just getting the $400 one anyways or be better off getting a shitty $500 new Dell laptop. Want to get as much info before I decide
Ryder Foster
I'm not sure, and I hate this. 15" 4:3 is the ultimate form factor.
Asher Stewart
Where did you find these?
Jayden Murphy
Microcenter Only the last one had a i7 and 12GB ram, the other two were i5s with 8GB ram
Isaac Ramirez
everything is pretty simple to replace on a t440p. The hardest thing to replace is the trackpad. The screen is very easy to replace. Seriously consider a 2012 mac pro. I use one with a dual core i7 and it does everything I need it to, and mac os is pretty kickass.
Henry Young
I asked in the sqt and everyone ignored me, but i guess this is a good place to ask. I bought a ddr3 ram 1.5v and wanted to put it into my t450. Now it seems it's incompatible seems like it needs exclusively ddr3l at 1.3v. My question is: if it's possible to use the RAM i bought and of it isn't there is a harm leaving in the socket while i sell it or put it in n another machine?
James Lewis
that's not a bad deal if you don't want to work on it yourself.
Jose Lee
Well I have a 2012 macbook pro but my Screen is cracked and Harddrive failed. I never tried to find a replacement screen and didnt know how easy a HDD replacement on mac would be. I was quoted $900 by apple which I know is bs
Kayden Ramirez
Yeah I think I may do that, and just upgrade the screen, I will go in store and check them out if they have them at my local microcenter
Jeremiah Garcia
>pentesting based
Ayden Clark
T440p owners, any of you changed the WiFi card and didn't mod the BIOS? There's this T440p guide that says BIOS version 2.32 didn't have the whitelist. I'm on 2.22 so I'm wondering if he's memeing or if it's real. Not having AC sucks and I wanna change it without fucking around with coreboot because I have no idea how to do it, both hardware and software. Thank you.
Matthew Cruz
T440p with a 4980HQ off taobao.
Jaxon Allen
Don't do it doesn't fucking work, I tried it myself. From 2.32-2.35 there is no such bug that bypasses the whitelist, it only applies for the T440/s models.
Jordan Hughes
Don't even consider x201 first gen I series are shit.
Logan Cox
Because every hipster thinks like you.
Eli Edwards
Assuming non retina model, HDD is easy, just 10 screws for the bottom cover and another 2 to remove the HDD. You'll need a 6 sided star shaped screwdriver to remove the 4 retaining screws on the HDD though. No idea about the screen so can't help you with it.
Jacob Garcia
Thanks user, I'll stick to this for a while then.
Aaron Turner
Thinkpads are such a meme. Each one has some engineering issues, some have pretty bad ones T4x series: mainboard bends and gets killed if you hold the laptop wrong T60: GPU RAM desolders itself, IPS screen breaks if you move the screen on one side only T61: Shitty screens only from this point, Nvidia GPUs all died T500 and T510 series: USB connectors break off and short out the chipset X61 tablet: glue in the screen leaks, leaves huge air bubbles X220, X230: screens break with vertical lines X220 tablet, x230 tablet: keyboard presses on screen, causes heavy scratches W520: some BIOS chips are faulty T420: horrible screens only x30 series and beyond: unusable keyboard layouts only x40 series: With early BIOS versions the laptop gets bricked if you try booting linux All older models: Plastic is brittle and breaks off at weaker parts over time
Landon Bell
all though I usually would agree, nmap is just one of those tools that gain little to know benefit from a gui.
What games would a fully speced x395 be able to run? CSGO? RSS?
William Collins
noob here, is it fine to put 8 + 4gb of compatible ram in a 440p if they were made by different manufacturers?
i did it anyway and it seems to work fine
Camden Gonzalez
Bump
Bentley Roberts
You just don't get dual channel for different sizes but yeah, different sizes and manufacturers were never a thing unless you're autistic.
Brayden Garcia
1. Only have experience with the X201T. It's a nice little package and the wacom is good for what it does. You won't go wrong with it but I use Win 7 with mine, no idea how it works on Linux.
2. No idea about those but if they are stupidly cheap why not buy one to play around with.
Liam Kelly
Any battery packs I can use for the X220 that are small? I would rather not carry around a full 120V battery bank with my charger. The idea of using USB-C banks is awesome but not sure how to utilize them on older systems without C.
Daniel Bailey
trying to get into programming which is a lot comfier than on a desktop
I think I have decided on this, I will get this, install a new screen/touchpad then upgrade slowly over time. My question is will this actually work for most tasks, office programs and basic streaming/youtube? Or would I just be better off buying a $150 one off ebay and buying new CPU, Ram, and SSD for that?
$330 for below Lenovo ThinkPad T440p 14" Laptop Computer Refurbished - Black Intel Core i5-4300U Processor 1.9GHz; 8GB RAM; 512GB Solid State Drive; Intel HD Graphics 4600
Michael Sanders
My grandparents want a new laptop for home use, with a big screen (15.6") and that will them last for a while. I looked at the W520/530 so far, but are there any better options?
Benjamin Robinson
You can get the $150 eBay one, 16GB ram and a 500GB SSD for under $330. The included 8GB is probably 2x4 so you still have to upgrade them eventually.
Jeremiah Green
T5xx is cheaper. They don't need the GPU in W series. Also, >they want new >buy used hackermemeshit They gonna be disappointed.
Nathaniel Thompson
Okay, my issue is I am having trouble finding a Grade A or Grade B on ebay that is under $200
I already did. Check with them if they want new "new" or new "I'm sick of the current one just get me something that just werks" or new "Bob's grandson got him a sparkling new Macbook Pro I hope we get one too".
I hate buying shit for people.
Jeremiah Peterson
>200 fucking dollars for a thinkpad battery bank
Thanks for the link but no thanks....
Gabriel Murphy
Is there a good long term fix to the random GPU corruption/glitching problems the X220 has? I've seen it with Windows and Linux alike so I'm pretty sure it's not (just?) a driver bug.
Jack Rivera
A relative gave it to me for Christmas and while I wouldn't pay for it it's really handy, obviously I don't use it just for the thinkpad but you asked for something small that can charge your thinkpad, you didn't exactly give a budget.
Brandon Powell
Send the dead t420 to me.
Kayden Cox
My bad. It's a shame that you can't simply just take USB-C and convert it to a plug for a Thinkpad. The battery banks for Macbook Pro's for example are very cheap, sub $100.
Chase Gonzalez
lurk more
Jacob White
Can I remove the spacebar from my T410 keyboard without breaking it and reattaching it later? It's only responsive now if i press on the right side and I want to see if I can fix it.
Caleb Foster
Do you even electrical engineering?
Chase Roberts
What are good practices on making a t440 battery have a decent lifetime? Is there a straight forward way to set battery reserves? I've so far read that it shouldn't be left in while you're running on ac for a while but surely these have overcharge protection right? if I'm not using the battery should I just take it out? I read somewhere that the battery has performance related function or something
Landon Lopez
If you're running 7, Lenovo power manager is Max comfy, just set it to charge max at 50 or 80 depending on how often you bring it out.
Gavin Long
Haven't brought a laptop in years back when all screen were terrible. Am i gonna regret buying 1600 x 900 T440s more Uni and anime?