/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>Assemble a part list
pcpartpicker.com/
>How to assemble a PC
youtube.com/watch?&v=IhX0fOUYd8Q

Want help?
>State budget & CURRENCY
>Post at least some attempt at a parts list
>List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)

CPUs
>Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on most mobos with the right BIOS)
>R3 2200G - Minimum 30-60fps gaming. 2400G/3400G may be worth to less likely require a CPU upgrade when adding a dGPU
>R5 2600 - 60fps+ gaming CPU with great value
>R5 3600 - Great gaming CPU
>R7 3700X - Overkill gaming CPU
>Wait for Threadripper gen3 - Extreme overkill gaming with its larger cache
>R7 1700 - Budget production
>R9 3900X - Professional tasks

RAM
>Do not use a single DIMM. 2 sticks for a typical dual channel CPU
>CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 3200CL16 or Micron E-die ("AES" in P/N) recommended
>AMD B & X chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP

GPUs
1080p
>RX 570/580 8GB - Can be found on sale/used for cheap. Look for 570s which are >1240MHz boost
>GTX 1660TI / Vega56 - higher fps / more demanding games; only worth it on sale as normal MSRP is too high
>RX 5700 - higher FPS
1440p
>RX 5700 - standard, 70-100FPS+ gaming
>RX 5700XT - higher fps
2160p (4K)
>RX 5700XT - budget option. Upscale with RIS
>2080Ti - best for 4K, but poor value

>Navi AIB models have low availability. 5700 non-XT blower is alright, due to low power.

General
>Yes, adaptive sync (g/free-sync) is important for gaming
>NVMe isn't better than SATA SSD for gaming
>QLC is for storage, NOT for main drive
>Don't use Speccy
>Beware sites which rank CPUs by arbitrary, obfuscated scores (eg userbenchmark, passmark, cpuboss)
>Beware posts spamming benches of averages, without 1% minimums
>AM4 VRMs, Monitors & SSD Guide under "more"

more rentry.co/pcbg-more

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Other urls found in this thread:

pcpartpicker.com/list/4BznsZ
rakuten.com/shop/adata/product/AD4U300038G16-DS10/?sku=AD4U300038G16-DS10
newegg.com/cooler-master-r4-sfnl-14pk-r1-case-fan/p/N82E16835103206?Description=static pressure&cm_re=static_pressure-_-35-103-206-_-Product
pcpartpicker.com/list/DnhDbX
notebookcheck.net/GeForce-RTX-2080-Max-Q-vs-GeForce-RTX-2060-Desktop-vs-GeForce-RTX-2060-Max-Q_9621_9556_9631.247598.0.html
techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-2080-mobile.c3312
theverge.com/2019/7/12/20691638/acer-predator-triton-900-review-price-specs-features
twitter.com/SFWRedditGifs

>3950x or wait for threadripper

Yes. That SSD choice is fine but like... it's a high performance one. You just want something cheap, don't you? I see ones on sale for $25-$30 all the time. But maybe it's not worth fretting over $10-$15.

>I wanted to know what to get for 1440p 144hz gaming.
A 9900k+2080Ti won't do 144fps at 720p in every game, let alone 1440p.
And that's the best setup you can get other than an RTX Titan which is like 3% faster.
You need to set a realistic goal. 144fps in every game is impossible as many simply run like shit no matter your hardware or are locked to 60 or 100fps.

Does MSI's Ventus OC series come with fan stop? I am apparently a retard that can't find any reviews

Don't build a gaming pc right now. The ps5 will have the same performance and vram as the 2070 while only being 500$.

5700 xt pulse on Amazon only $100 price hike

>console gaming
go to /v/

pcpartpicker.com/list/4BznsZ

for web browsing/word
thoughts?

>consoles for any reason

What's Jow Forums's determination on this RAM? Just ordered some. Will it stack up for my new build plans?

rakuten.com/shop/adata/product/AD4U300038G16-DS10/?sku=AD4U300038G16-DS10

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>impossible goal
That is actually helpful information, thank you.

Yo where the fuck do I learn more about PC's than what the sticky/thread says?

I want to become a computer nerd to bee honest.

ATTENTION: Graphics card prices are excessive by historical standards; therefore, consumers should delay or completely forgo any midrange to high end graphics card purchases. The gouging has two root causes: lack of market competition and shortage/"new normal" pricing during the mining hayday.

I can't play my shitty kMMOs on a ps5.

if you have an IQ higher than your phone number, watch tech deals

Consoles are unironically the most important thing for the future of computer hardware because they set the minimum.

just go on ebay and get a beat up workstation

Wait for threadripper. It's likely going to crush some games due to all the cache. Even if you don't buy it, helps to know where it stands.

Doesn't that GPU have a solid milled heatsink? The 2060 one I'm pretty sure does. If so, surely it does not.

and yeah what the other user says, 85% of games since 2013 sounds about right.
Some new games like Destiny 2 sort of run fine at 144fps (though with bugs because it was made to run at 60), Wolfenstein, etc. But lots of games, even at lowest settings 720p, they just run like shit no matter your hardware and you can just be happy for 60. Even WoW drops near 60 on a 9900k in some cases.
Powerful hardware doesn't fix shitty programming.

The FAQ in the OP has a lot of information. Other than that, you learn from tinkering with shit. Even the best youtubers and analysts are full of misleading information and errors
ie Gamer's Nexus tested dual vs single channel a long time ago, and concluded that dual channel wasn't a significant difference
The problem with their tested is they used DUAL RANK memory, which has a much smaller difference between single and dual CHANNEL memory.
They also mostly tested synthetics.
They recently redid their test without acknowledging how they fucked up and concluded that it is worth it, but still.

Remember to ignore scitzo user, feel bad for him because he was molested

Appreciate it.

>red cpu led turns on then switches off
>red dram light does not come on
>red vga light stays on for a few seconds before switching off
>red boot light stays on
>no image
Based AMD
Would buy again

>not the first post from this IP

I'm an idiot someone please help. After doing some benchmark tests and realizing my newly built PC wasn't running optimally, I messed with a few things, and now when I start it up I get various errors like this one. They're all relating to the System32 drivers folder. What's weird is if I go to BIOS first, Windows will start up perfectly fine. I'm typing this on the messed up PC right now. Is there any way I can fix this drivers folder? I enabled XMP to improve my RAM, could that be the problem? I'm not sure I can undo anything else I did at this point. But at least my performance increased, I guess.

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Hlp pls

Thanks for posting, anons.

>ps5
Still over a year until that comes out. But you're right, prices are terrible right now. Realistically the PS5 will have an 8c/16t Zen/Navi APU with 5700 tier graphics. Those components alone would cost almost $700 in the current market. Either prices will drop significantly or PC will continue to be squeezed for every last dollar.

Looks good, now put it in the tiniest case possible, or go mITX on the mobo

>The FAQ in the OP has a lot of [garbage] information

>he's larping as a mod
Look and laugh

Reinstall windows, or run windows repair

>>he's larping as a mod
not him but you don't need mod rpivileges to tell if the latest post was sent from a new IP, look at the bottom right corner of the screen

>B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC WiFi
OR
>X570 Gaming Edge WiFi
Which one is best for my 3600 CPU?
X570 doesn’t require a BIOS update, but B450 is around $50 cheaper.

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Of course, he's just larping. With 26 posts (before this one) and 18 unique posters, there's a high chance that it was a unique poster

A Pure Rock Slim will be fine for cooling a 3700x right?

Did you know that there are settings on 4chanx that let you hover over the name field in every post and it lets you know if it's a new IP?

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Gigabyte Auros Elite

check out the Arctic Freezer 34 Duo

How important is the sound codec in mobos for mid-range headphones?
Will the difference between ALC1220 and ALC892 even be noticeable on headphes like aurvana live?

>samefag sock puppeter is so confused that he thought his one post from himself was two different people

>26 posts
>18 unique posters
like 2 of those posts were mine and 4 were of the ban evader, so there was a 100% chance that wasn't a new IP.

based btfoer

freezer 34 duo is a little bit more money for significantly better. but if you already have the pure rock slim, yeah it's fine and better than stock.

Interesting, I was unaware. I suppose it keeps track of when new posters enter the thread?

>like 2 of those posts were mine and 4 were of the ban evader,
>literally everyone who posts more than once in a thread is a ban evader
Your mind without meds

Are these fans as good as they seem?
newegg.com/cooler-master-r4-sfnl-14pk-r1-case-fan/p/N82E16835103206?Description=static pressure&cm_re=static_pressure-_-35-103-206-_-Product

Is updating a bios really that scary, even on modern boards?

And you'll be paying hundreds of dollars extra along the years if you want to play online. Fuck consoles.

No, as long as the power doesn't go out. I'd still rather have Dual BIOS though

Are GPUs still really expensive due to cryptofags? I've been waiting until the price balloon pops before I get a real computer.

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Oops I'm an idiot for not reading the thread before posting. Thank you user.

Not as bad as during the actual bubble, but this gen is still ridiculously overpriced

prices are expected to drop next year assuming nothing really gay happens, now that amd has caught up to nvidia in certain segments and intel is also entering the market

I posted this build yesterday but was busy and didn't have time to check back about replies. This build is solely for video editing and rendering work in Adobe Premiere Pro. I already have an Adobe RGB certified 31.5" 4K monitor

pcpartpicker.com/list/DnhDbX

wait for threadripper 3 like the rest of us

I don't have the 4 months to wait for it to launch, and then another 3 months to actually get my hands on one. My current build is holding up my overall amount of work I can actually finish because rendering times take so fucking long. I'll get the 7nm Threadripper down the road if it's that worth it.

How much would it cost to beat this machine on via desktop?

Lenovo y740
>● Processor: Intel Core i7-8750H (2.20GHz, up to 4.10GHz with Turbo Boost, 6 Cores, 9MB Cache)
>● Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64
>● Display Type: 17.3" FHD (1920 x 1080) NVIDIA® G-SYNC, 144 Hz, 300 nits, software enabled Dolby Vision HDR
>● Memory: 16GB (8GB + 8GB) DDR4 2666MHz
>● Hard Drive: 1TB 7200 RPM + 256GB Solid State Drive PCIe
>● Graphics: NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2080 with Max-Q Design 8GB
>● Wireless: Killer Wireless 802.11 AC (2 x 2) + Bluetooth 4.1

about $3,50

like 1k

I can definitely wait a year, thank you.

I see. Thank you.

Probably about 2000USD including monitor, building around a 2080Ti

Retarded response, the only graphics component better than a 2080M is a 2080Ti, which is already 1000USD

1,5 years ago i built my pc with a gtx 1080, ryzen 5 2600x 16gb ram, im using a 144hz monitor and still in pubg i have to turn down the settings to get 144 fps, also playing VR games i sometimes get framedrops. Should i upgrade now or wait for next gpu gen?

Thanks guys, might actually but this laptop then.

anyone?

Wait
Also use fpsVR to see what's limiting you in VR. SteamVR does some dumb shit with automatic render scales, so make sure you don't have like 16X MSAA going on

the 2080 max q doesn't even beat a desktop 2060 what the fuck?
notebookcheck.net/GeForce-RTX-2080-Max-Q-vs-GeForce-RTX-2060-Desktop-vs-GeForce-RTX-2060-Max-Q_9621_9556_9631.247598.0.html

about $900-$1000 without monitor.

You're either trolling or retard. The 2080 Max-Q is slower than the 5700 non-XT.
Do some research and you'll see you're getting trolled. Don't just trust someone who's trying to make you waste money because he thinks it's funny.

My mistake, I looked up the 2080 mobile thinking it was the same chip.
techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-2080-mobile.c3312

laptop models with the same name as desktop models are significantly less powerful, and more expensive

Is there a small 144hz fhd monitor, like smaller than 20inch? Cause my desk is small and space is limited, I just don't want a monitor that I can't look across the screen without bending my neck. Thanks

Not always. I didn't realize Max Q was a low power variant, but there are some with full 2080
theverge.com/2019/7/12/20691638/acer-predator-triton-900-review-price-specs-features

Will 3200mhz cl14 RAM be good for a 3700x?

Yes I also posted this
Mr investigator

GAMING

IS

NOT

TECHNOLOGY

GET THE FUCK OFF MY BOARD AND GO BACK TO /V/

>REEEE STOP USING YOUR PC FOR DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS THAN ME REEEE
Fuck off faggot.

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that's not a laptop model it's a desktop model in a laptop

>calling games "applications" so he sounds like less off a manchild

I'm interested in the

MSI Gaming Radeon RX 570 256-bit 8GB GDRR5

For like $160 online. Is this a bad card?

It's literally called the 2080M, m for mobile

you are very weirdly confused by quite a simple naming convention, how odd

Gaming chair recommendation?

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>doesn't have an argument so still feels the need to shit post.
Go jerk off in the /tpg/ or /fglt/ with the rest of them.

they are a meme, get a decent office chair

gaming is not technology

based

and yet it will still be discussed on Jow Forums. Get fucked bitchboi, not a fucking thing you can do about it :^)

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Office chair recommendations

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It hurts

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My sister pretty much just uses her PC for left 4 dead and Skyrim. I was thinking of getting her a 580 for her birthday to replace her 760, is that a decent upgrade?

its like 3 times faster so yes

also dirt cheap

If it's not too expensive. It does fine with 3200CL16 overclocked to 3600CL7.

overpriced. I saw RX590 like 3 days ago for $170 or $180.
570 should be $120-$140.

desktop cards in laptops still perform worse due to both thermal and power delivery throttling.
And really, those cards just don't belong in laptops. Max-Q and M models exist for a reason.

And really, a lot of laptops which SEEMINGLY have desktop GPUs in them are actually just mislabeled on the specs.

search for task chairs Hermen Miller is a popular and good brand

... seems irrelevant. She has a 60hz monitor I assume.
If you really want to upgrade "just because", then wait for the better power efficiency of the RX 5600. It'll probably run those games at only 20 watts of power consumption. Or wait for a good sale on a 570 and get both that and a 1920x1200@75 monitor. That'll be a more significant upgrade.

In short, find better things to spend that money on when that's all she plays.

hello and WELCOME to tech deals

First time build newfag here.
I accidentally broke one of the pins (the bottom left one) of my mobo's front panel USB 3 connector, but I just plugged in a usb and the system reads it normally. What the hell?

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based chad deals

Just wait™ for 2077 where a 100 dollar card will run 128K at 900 FPS, easy

Unironically herman miller embody.

yes, and gift here dbd too, chicks love that game

what's the dbd offer? Give me code pls

dead by daylight, asymmetrical game

Imagine spending $1000+ on something you fart on all day

I don't have to imagine it. I'm farting on it right now.

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recommend me a mid-tower case no more than $120

meshify or coolermaster h500

Difference in amps can be very noticeable. Most motherboards have noisy high impedance headphones out but decent enough lint out.

memefy c

>not spending a decent amount of money on the thing keeping your neck and spine from getting destroyed while you sit on your ass all day everyday

i know but what is the offer thing? what do you get?

ALC892 is ass. It's about the worst you can get in a modern board afaik.
Though if you use a DAC, afaik it shouldn't matter.