define your threat model: >Who are you hiding from? >Why are you hiding from them? >What are you willing to do to hide from them?
but /cyb/+/sec/ exists: >Privacy has nothing to do with /cyb/erpunk, but it does with /sec/urity, which is why /privacy/ now exists
i don't have anything to hide schizo retard: >en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_to_hide_argument >youtube.com/watch?v=pcSlowAhvUk >Your government does have something to hide, and what they're hiding affects you in some way or another. >Privacy isn't always about hiding something, it's also about what information should be available about you, it's an human right >Everytime you do something online, imagine that you're telling some stranger: "hey! i just sent a mail to my co-worker containing my dick pics, also, just 10 secs ago i visited blackpeoplemeet.com! just letting you know!"
NOTE: actual /privacy/ guide/wiki is in the works, which will try to cover almost everything, meaning it will be suitable for everyone regardless of the different threat models people have
>talk about OPSEC techniques >knowledge is now easily accessible and technique will get shut down faster by glows >keep it a secret >your friends won't benefit
Eli Ortiz
Why are you ashamed of your own behavior? Why not fix yourself instead of hiding?
Cooper Stewart
this has nothing to do with ashamed, it's just to protect your self integrity and privacy. I feel not ashamed to talk with ppl about my life, but not everyone has to get information about private doing. If you are feel okay with the current system that the states and countries gov, the ISP's and other companies know everything you are doing, it will be okay. But not everyone will give a fck on his privacy and rights like you are doing it.
So the fact you are trying to argument with ashamed of your own behavior or fix yourself instead of hiding is absolutely wrong in this point, because it has nothing to do with it.
Assuming your "friends" aren't glowies, speak to them IRL, or at your house, about your privacy procedures. People will just see as someone different.
Carson Reed
I know for a fact that the things I enjoy doing are harmless. I have never hurt anyone, nor has anyone else who I know partakes in the same activities. Yet my hobbies aren't exactly "normal" nowadays and this is enough for normies, and the government to brand me an "other" and subject to extreme scrutiny despite the fact I have done no wrong. This will only be made worse when society's intolerance and prejudices become encoded in some AI system nobody, not even the creators, knows the inner workings of, nor do the creators or administrators have any interest in protecting my rights.
In case you're wondering I'm talking about collecting and researching historical artifacts, including antiquated weaponry.
(Pick your poison. All articles are talking about the same thing)
Lincoln Hall
imagine living in the us :D
Nolan Hughes
Windows 7 vs Windows 10 I have currently been hanging around /sgt/ and they have a primer on stripping win 10 of problems and I've ultimately found this is bullshit that doesnt seem to work at all. My main reason for switching was concern on windows 7 sabatoge where microsoft essentially tries to slay machines who retain the platform with malware. I don't really know how likely this is but theyve produced a lot of media talking about malware protection and how win7 is more voulnerable as it ages.
I'm a poorfag so I dont have money for a good security program. I tend to just be careful.
I'm also not really sold on privacy io being super useful since it regularly recommends products I already know are compromised.
Does anyone have a recommendation on windows 7-10 dichotomy?
Sebastian Walker
why do you post this every thread?
Robert Bennett
You make it seem as though privacy is a bad thing to begin with. Why is society conditioned to believe that keeping personal affairs to yourself and to a few selected individuals is a bad thing? The fact of the matter is that what I do with my time and money isn't anyone else's business and I reserve the right to decide whether or not other people should know.
Every time I see this shit posted I always wonder how much of a cuck you need to be in order to waive your right of privacy. Do you just not care that other people / entities are allowed to intrude whenever the please?
Juan Baker
If you dont understand what you are seeing is a shill I feel honestly sorry for you.
Robert Sullivan
well, i have a lot to hide, specially when i am having a totally not normal life, i was being try to get involved in Shiites and weird stuff, you know why that happens, because of not hiding from too curious people.........
the mk ultra was done by aliens and not by the CIA. and why they did the MK ultra, who cares. why they did it if it was totally illegal and inhuman, and they are a security agency, who cares ............... by the way, my ideas will be not open source companies scammers......
Privacy is a good thing and all, but for people who don't think it's enough or are truly motivated towards true "privacy", there's an alternative: Anonymity. This guy talks more about anonymity on the internet as opposed to privacy: youtube.com/channel/UCjr2bPAyPV7t35MvcgT3W8Q/about
The great thing about anonymity is that with it comes privacy and then some (at least, if you're doing anonymity right), whereas privacy doesn't always grant anonymity. Once you're truly anonymous, you have a good degree of privacy, and most measures taken towards anonymity, such as the use of an OS and browser combo like Tails OS and Tor, will greatly increase your privacy as well. True anonymity (even more so than on Jow Forums, for example; the average user just knows you and me as "user", but someone with a strong will and knowledge of Jow Forums's systems can probably track the "user" back to "not so user" somehow) can guarantee Privacy and more. Privacy alone just guarantees Privacy. Privacy isn't bad or inferior, it's just that anonymity can allow you to kill two birds with one stone regarding your rights.
Logan Jackson
the mk ultra is not low-tier, go to the supreme court it will be totally illegal..............
Liam James
>shill If someone tells you something informative, do you call them shills?
Angel Bell
Is firejail pointless on systems with apparmor?
Nathan Powell
Thanks user, for the long and comprehensive post!
Adam Baker
>Talk to coworker about privacy >Explain all the shit we all know >Instead of calling me paranoid asks me to recommend alternatives for google services and how to delete facebook. Well that went well. How do you anons get treated when you talk about this shit to people?
Jackson Wilson
"Did you kill someone?"
Grayson Reyes
Europeans tend to respect human rights like privacy more than americans. Perhaps it’s due to their experiences with totalitarian governments, something americans have yet to experience. American society is also a hyper-marketed trash heap where it’s OK to be a hypocrite as long as your marketing materials say you are against whatever you are doing (under a different name for your actions if course ) so there’s that.
Nicholas Wright
The other day a cowerker mentioned she was frustrated because she dropped her iPhone and now the camera doesn't work properly (she is going on a trip soon, already went as of now) she said she was going to try and borrow her dads old iPhone to take with her and how she's glad icloud exists because there's no need to manually import all her data into the new phone. I try not to let out my psychotic rage towards non-free software show too much irl so I just said >that's convenient I guess, but I wouldn't be comfortable having a massive and abusive corp like Apple being able to access my data She looked at me like I was literally insane and walked away
Jackson Stewart
>Europeans tend to respect human rights like privacy more than americans. That's interesting because my coworker happened to have moved here from Europe about 3 years ago.
Andrew Morris
I don't know who you are but I was able to guess that the coworker is European because of my own experiences. If you were to talk to a martsharter you'd get
Jackson Hill
>Why is society conditioned to believe that keeping personal affairs to yourself and to a few selected individuals is a bad thing?
Because social media. Shit's been happening since 2007. The switch was flipped for good in 2010. 'member how before then our parents and teachers were advising people to be careful with what info you provide over the internet and gave a list of things to never post under any circumstances? Now it's the exact opposite...
Jackson Thomas
I am trying to become a pentesting hacker, redpill me on kernel hacking vs webhacking
Free speech is a human right. Self-defense is a human right.
Leo Cooper
I do not believe that trying to hide your information from governments is a very good idea. You are more likely just to end up on a list and placed under extreme scrutiny and then thrown in jail for a petty crime that shouldn't even be a law. Although restricting corporate access to your personal life is a great idea since it can prevent marketers and "data scientists" from using your data to manipulate the public for profit. Governments will always find ways to figure out what you're doing.
Jordan Turner
rights don't exist. they are entirely a social construct.
no amount of rights or laws can protect you from a guy with a bigger stick than you. The only thing that matters is power. if you have power you can make whatever laws you want and enforce them however you like and no one will be able to do anything about it.
you want rights? you better have a stick big enough enforce them and punish those who infringe them.
Chase Davis
Most will try to hide from the corps because it's easier. You are right in that one might attract unwanted attention when avoiding government surveillance, but I disagree about it being a bad idea. For one, they have to know that you don't want them to know; this isn't as simple as it sounds, because not everything goes directly through them (though one would be wise to assume so), not everything is reported and not everything is detectable. When you're increasing your privacy, you're in some ways decreasing the amount of marks you're leaving on the world/internet, and unless those marks are 100% supposed to be there when they're actively looking for them, you in many ways avoid tripping alarms, be they false positives (like people getting v& for researching bombs) or not. You might be suspect for using encrypted DNS or someshit, but your ISP would have to report you or something.
Even when you do bring attention to yourself, I think avoiding surveillance is a good idea (as long as you aren't actually doing illegal stuff) because you're "voting" for privacy by doing so. If many do it, it would be a huge waste of resources to follow otherwise normal people around because they've taken a stand. The whole thing likely doesn't surprise most governments anyway, and the rest would be convinced after we get more Stallmans to preach about privacy in schools and such.
Noah Powell
I approve of this thread. You should check out the Fediverse thread I make every so often for a related dynamic -
Jow Forumsthread/72702432
For those who want more privacy but they (or their friends, family etc..) still want to use traditional style social media, Fediverse options are all free/open source and federated. Self hosting is possible and users can easily sign up on a node/server of their choice otherwise. Encryption is often included (ie Matrix powered chat/voice/video is end to end encypted) and data portability is a big thing on the macro-style (ie Facebook-ish) sites like Diaspora and Friendica, so you have full control over your data, who sees etc etc.
Thomas Roberts
I'm and idiot, i have just one question can i browser internet anonymously with tor on windows10?
Bentley Sullivan
So I did an experiment where I tried to buy something anonymously over amazon...
>bought amazon gift cards with cash in an IRL grocery store >set up new, non-prime account over VPN with fresh email and fake info >add gift cards to account >but no CC (didn't want to associate my own) >attempt to buy something, pay, order goes through >have it delivered to a pickup locker >try to log into account today >"locked for security reasons" >have to call customer support, they said fact I called will be forwarded to an account specialist who will contact me within 24 hours too confirm it's legitimate.
I had a few laughs with the british-accented rep. Turns out they get these experiments every now and then. Unfortunately the lesson learned is that ordering from Amazon cannot be 100% private.
Tyler Nguyen
Tor is supported by mossad and pedophiles, so is i2p, freenet is literally a giant cache of child porn
Brody Martin
I'm at the point now where I don't believe in perfect privacy. I just want canaries on every system. Make every TLS cert signed with the national CA but design a system (block chain or something) that notifies all parties that the CA was used for decryption. Publicly.
Make running your own CA like ham radio or how DNS already is. Requiring registration for any kind of public use.
I know it's not popular with the tinfoil hats but ultimately your ability to own a computer and access to electrical infrastructure is a byproduct of your residency and citizenship and designing systems to avoid this feels like the systems will fail when they encounter real legislative resistance.
Evan Martinez
>ultimately your ability to own a computer and access to electrical infrastructure is a byproduct of your residency and citizenship and designing systems to avoid this feels like the systems will fail when they encounter real legislative resistance. well the ultimate end (that we probably can't quite get to but can approach) is to tie the hands of the government. Basically you box them into having to choose one of two extremes - either let people communicate in ways they can't monitor, or shut down all communication. The latter is very costly and risky to any regime and gets more so over time, pushing them to acquiesce to the former.
Noah Jackson
you are more optimistic about the the 2nd option than me
Joseph King
Eh fuckit, I used the wrong link -
Evan Martin
"privacy general"?
MODS MODS MODS
OP IS A TERRORIST
Joshua Mitchell
Tor is also supported by the United States government.
Andrew Watson
Well actually, some of the fake info you gave them could've raised unwanted attention, e.g. email doesn't match the first name, or your ip wasn't residential and used very frequently on amazon, or maybe they just thought you were a bot ordering products to yourself.
Joshua Jenkins
You're better off running Tails in a vm
Dominic Phillips
Tor is pretty anonymous, but it can leave traces on your PC, to be safe you should get an USB-drive and use Tails.
Levi Taylor
I'm mainly concerned about the gift card balance and items ordered. I think I'll stick with IRL shopping and prepaid cards + independent merchants online from now on.
Alexander Edwards
An alternative would be registering a LLC with a unrevocable trust in New Mexico, then using prepaid credit cards as your payment, this would work everywhere, not only amazon. Please keep asking questions as im more than happy to answer them for you.
Carter Stewart
I was able to use prepaid cards as payment methods for many online sites. I mean how else do people do it? It's not like everyone has a registered company under their name...
Xavier Rogers
Thing is you get a lawyer to register for you instead
Grayson Perez
Is there any reliable way to have privacy on an android phone, or should I just not bother and simply don't put any important shit on this device?
Nathan Nguyen
Nigga what the fuck are you even responding to? He was saying that most people don't go through the trouble of registering their own companies and they have no problems making purchases with that kind of card.
This is why normies are suspicious of those who want privacy: because they come off as schizos.
Jacob Collins
I'm glad I use my own domain for email now. As it's my own countries cctld it's within my own jurisdiction as well, so I can get my domain back if something happens.
Now nobody can take my shit offline anymore. And I don't have to rely on jewgle for vital services.
Noah Anderson
Do you even know how to read? He said people usually don't register a company in their own name, so i recommended he get a lawyer to do it under his, and after this he buys a small apartment with a mailbox included under the company, and from there he just orders his online stuff to. I didn't say that prepaid credit cards don't work or do their job. Also, don't use prepaid IRL, use cash instead.
Nicholas Diaz
You do realize that doing shady shit like that is incredibly suspicious and much more likely to attract attention than acting like a normal person, right?
Austin Parker
weak derailing attempt, officer try again
Juan Phillips
>american woman of course her opinion is garbage
James Rivera
It really must be a cultural thing like you said. That coworker aside everyone looks at me like I'm crazy for not having any social media. >How can we contact you? I don't know...with my number? >How will we know what's going on with you? Ask
Facebook tracking everything is bad but I feel like people overshare a bit too. Especially people who add anyone who requests them. A little social engineering and sleuthing can easily get anyone doxed. Like the people who post their work schedules, place of work, town, etc.
Logan Gutierrez
I know all of us enjoy privacy but what are some ways you "bend" a bit for the sake of convenience? Personally I bend by using an Amazon account. I've used it before I started getting privacy conscious so they already have my name and address already.
James Price
The Neocities browser privacy guide considers auto-updates spyware, but aren't updates necessary to patch exploits? I don't like the idea of using old versions. I'd rather the updates be automatic so I can always be using the latest version. I know it recommends Tor as top tier, which anonymously auto-updates, but that browser is so slow for regular use.
lineageos, use adb to remove botnet apps, f-droid and aurora maybe if you need proprietary software, etc.
William Anderson
You're not wrong, but auto updates mean your browser is essentially phoning home every day regardless because it's checking for those updates, so it's an improvement to privacy for the user to manually check instead because although you may not get updates as quickly (simply due to the manual process) you will only phone home once every update instead of once every day just in case of an update.
Brody Bailey
Aurora is great. With Lineage I was still able to download some of the vidya I bought.
Evan Peterson
i'm scared, Jow Forumsentoomen.
yesterday i tryed to reduce the OC of my CPU from the bios of my motherboard (desktop), its been a while since last time i used it
to my surprise i found out that it was password protected! i'm sure as hell i never put a password in there.
so i just manually erased the CMOS using the pins and everything went back to default settings and i could access the bios again.
i boot up windows, everything works alright, when i restart my computer the bios isn't accessible anymore, not just pass prtected, i don't even have the option to access it.
every time i boot up windows, i can't access my bios anymore. it works normally when i use linux
It's also 1 more database the glowniggers can look up. I think there's something "off" about that user. His responses keep skirting around the point.
James Rodriguez
This is kinda like buying phones from Huawei, they lock the bootloader and do whatever the fuck they want
Jacob Hernandez
Kind of like caring about your privacy in the first place.
Andrew Williams
It might just be a faulty mobo, so return it if it's still under warranty. I'm not really sure how one would handle a virus such as this, so I can't help you there.
Jayden Walker
Life has many doors, ed-boy. Everything is not black and white. Have you considered having a "public" side and a "private" side?
Any way to use noscript captcha without sending the full path in the referer header? Posting here doesn't seem to work with network.http.referer.XOriginTrimmingPolicy set to 2.
Elijah Nelson
lesspass look cool. can someone tl:dr it? where does it save the passwords? in THEIR server? if so, i dont get whats so great about it.
Caleb Martin
if it was a faulty mombo it wouldn't only happen when i boot windows, im not familliar with any virus able to do that.
Colton Edwards
keepassx + """cloud""" service is probably more secure. keepassx databases are encrypted local files so your plaintext passwords will never pass through the server.
Thomas Young
Guess it's an requirement
Daniel Campbell
There's gotta be some way to stop google from knowing about all the cunny threads I post in.
John Gutierrez
i find blocking google's cookies off their sites to be sufficient, but i guess they do see your IP no matter what
Elijah Ortiz
That's nowhere near enough, they have enough info to tell which posts you made in which thread based on timing and having the thread id from the path in the Referer header. I'm surprised Jow Forums hasn't said anything about this here.
Isaac White
bump, hoping for answers to
Austin Russell
>privacy.resistFingerprinting = true fuck off it breaks so much shit
Joshua White
I would also be interested in any answers to this post. I wish I could just keep using Windows 7.
Carter Bailey
no it doesn't
Benjamin Lopez
Windows 10 AME is completely stripped of telemetry and has no incoming or outgoing traffic whatsoever. If you don't trust the ISO you can make one yourself with the instructions on the website which is what I did. I was hesitant too about switching from 7 but its not so bad