Biblestudies: Sinners Welcome (Cont. from yesterday))

ITT we discuss the teachings of the Holy Bible and figure out why kikes hate it so much. The following are a bunch of topics on which i wrote my view on it. Feel free to debate/add these or bring up another issue of your own that you think of as relevant and important

Last OPs


Original Israelites being whites




The lineage of the kikes
Pagan deities in the Bible
Different doctrines and teachings
Anti leftist law
Evil, forgiveness and law
Money
Satanism
Symbolism
Concept of Chosen People
Different concepts and ideas and interpretations on the narrative

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youtube.com/watch?v=79Lmmy2jfeo
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penelope.uchicago.edu/josephus/ant-18.html
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus_on_Christ
tertullian.org/fathers/jerome_chronicle_03_part2.htm
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus_on_Christ#Authenticity_and_historical_value
textexcavation.com/documents/zaratacituschrestianos.pdf
youtu.be/WDEBz25lGdY\
biblehub.com/luke/16-23.htm
nationalgeographic.com/science/2018/11/impact-crater-found-under-hiawatha-glacier-greenland-ice/
phys.org/news/2012-09-theory-impact-event-years.html
journals.uchicago.edu/doi/10.1086/695703
telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/04/21/ancient-stone-carvings-confirm-comet-struck-earth-10950bc-wiping/
youtube.com/watch?v=VI1yRTC6kGE
ancienthistorylists.com/ancient-civilizations/10-oldest-ancient-civilizations-ever-existed/
news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/04/100428-noahs-ark-found-in-turkey-science-religion-culture/
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Jesus didn't even exist. There is literally zero proof outside the gospels that he existed.
youtube.com/watch?v=79Lmmy2jfeo

but the desert manual says he was real and he also died and then resurrected himself

Wb. user

except Tiberius Ceasar commanding a picture of Jesus to be made
loc.gov/pictures/item/90707066/

Or Flavius Josephus writing on him
penelope.uchicago.edu/josephus/ant-18.html
>3. Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man; if it be lawful to call him a man. For he was a doer of wonderful works; a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ. And when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men among us, had condemned him to the cross;7 those that loved him at the first did not forsake him. For he appeared to them alive again, the third day:8 as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him. And the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct at this day

Roman Historian Tacticus mention him and his execution as well
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus_on_Christ

There is no debate wether Jesus existed or not. Not even Kikes deny it, they just screech he is in hell in boiling piss and feces for all eternity because they are so mad him.

thanks user

Why the serpent approached Eve

Men would be happy to just sit in their cave by the fire and make funny noises. Women need to care for their children. As such they look for a partner that can provide for the children. This is partly done spiritually (being a good and caring father) but also materielistically. The Woman needs a man that can get food and such while she is looking after the child. From this civilization is born as men create more and more sophisticated ways to show that they can provide for the child and woo the woman.
This genetical predisposition is why the Serpent tempted Eve first, and with what did he tempt her:
>5“For God knows that in the day you eat of it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
>you will be like God
A better life. We could now go into how the fruit and tree are also a metaphore for sex with the serpent which bore Cain . As such it may was implied that Eve thought that the Serpent would be a good father for her child
>6When the woman saw that the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eyes, and that it was desirable for obtaining wisdom, she took the fruit and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it.
Similary the satanic Goat head resembles the Uterus, being the embodiment of the pleasures of the flesh and also bringing us into this world ruled by Satan.

Similary the serpent crawls on the ground, is attached to materialism which is biblically a cause for evil and as such is a symbol for this too, materialism and evil, and because of the womans natural predisposition it was her that the serpent approached
Basically, while not really being evil the woman caused a dominoeffect of evil

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I think so. Let us look into the symbolism of the serpent.
The serpent is crawling on the ground, attached to it, symbolizing materialism . Reptillians in general also have appearently no empathy but only know survival. As such our REPTILLIAN brain takes over just these functions, our survival instinct, controll of fear and the response system to this fear etc. In the Chakra system there is the root Chakra which is the lowest of the 7 and also takes the same function. This survival mode is the lowest form of conciousness you can have, being controlled by the fear and subsequently subjectable to Satans temptation of (in example financial) securtiy and do evil to make sure you survive (think about why they always push fearporn about global warming and such. To make us controllable). The energy in the Chakras is called Kundalini and is described as a coiled serpent at the bottom of the spine, and it needs to be raised upwards in order to to gain higher conciousness
>14Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, 15that everyone who believes in Him may have eternal life.
Maybe a hint towards this exactly.

Now the eagle seems to be the direct opposite. it flies high in the sky, preys on the serpents, and I believe symbolizes the spirit (much like the doves do often)

Fucking retards still believing in God

Fucking Anglos still exist

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On the reason behind the existence of evil and ultimately our purpose:
First we must define evil. Evil is whats wrong in Gods eyes. God gave us free will, and free will requires the abillity to choose wrong, or else we would not be able to choose at all. If choosing wrong is evil then there cant be free will without evil

God creates Humans in his image, and he loves every one of them that is and will be. Satan, being basically a spoiled Child doesnt like us getting our fathers attention and thus tries to show him how lowly we are by corrupting us. He does this by bringing the fruit of knowledge of good and evil to us, which while likely intended for us eventually, we werent ready to eat yet as we were basically little babies in adult bodies.
With the fruit now Eaten we had to learn of both, Good and Evil. We knew good from our father and from being in Eden, but what was missing is Evil.
The best way to learn is to experience, thus we have to experience evil to learn of it, and we couldnt have evil in Paradise thus were send out, possibly falling from a spiritual state of existence into this mortal and material state. This world is sandbox/a tutorial so to speak. A containment reality where we can fuck around without being able to fuck up cosmically. Here we are meant to experience Evil, and Satan trying to corrupt us still is doing so by unleashing every plague he has up his sleeve onto us that we may fall from faith while simultaniously subverting what good and evil is. God loving and trusting us lets this happen since its the best way to learn of evil for us in the first place, and because he knows we will still praise God after everything. This is essentially the story of Job on a global scale.

Basically we are meant to learn good choices, and what this good actually is

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Doing God's work.
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thanks user, but pretty much all i have comes from anons in earlier threads. I merely saved the info and tried to put it into context. without them and without God bringing them into the threads i would barely have anything noteworthy i guess.

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These Biblestudies truly are most active at night/early in the morning,i guess American posters are a major part of the discussion. Damn Europe is just as fucking decadent as America,they're just more religious on average.

Are the people here theonomists?

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they hate everything but money and power, they are fucked in the head since their birth

well, the state of europe proves that
>47Because you did not serve the LORD your God with joy and gladness of heart in all your abundance, 48you will serve your enemies the LORD will send against you in famine, thirst, nakedness, and destitution. He will place an iron yoke on your neck until He has destroyed you.
>49The LORD will bring a nation from afar, from the ends of the earth, to swoop down upon you like an eagle—a nation whose language you will not understand, 50a ruthless nation with no respect for the old and no pity for the young. 51They will eat the offspring of your livestock and the produce of your land until you are destroyed. They will leave you no grain or new wine or oil, no calves of your herds or lambs of your flocks, until they have caused you to perish. 52They will besiege all your cities, until the high and fortified walls in which you trust have fallen in all the land. They will besiege all your cities throughout the land that the LORD your God has given you

this is exactly what is happening now.
However weirdly while europe is flooded by foreigners USA doesnt have that much problem with those it seems. However on the other hand Europe has less open degeneracy, less faggots indoctrinating the children than the USA have where this is a major issue.

dont know about those principles in detail, but yes, I believe we should try to uphold the OT law as good as we can. Those laws were for our own sake, not Gods pleassure (its just that what is good for us also pleases God) and as such these laws are necessary for a flourishing sociaty. Traditionally most of the law, while not written down necessary, were part of our culture.

>actively fighting back the gas lighting against christians on Jow Forums
Keep fighting the good fight user!
t. agnostic user

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Are you retarded?

How not to be deceived by the antichrist
>4When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice. 5But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will flee from him because they do not recognize his voice.”
[...]
>8All who came before Me were thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not listen to them.
[...]
>25“I already told you,” Jesus replied, “but you did not believe. The works I do in My Father’s name testify on My behalf. 26But because you are not My sheep, you refuse to believe. 27My sheep listen to My voice; I know them, and they follow Me. 28I give them eternal life, and they will never perish. No one can snatch them out of My hand.
Have faith that you will realize when your shepherd calls you and that you recognize his voice. Remember, when anyone needs to tell you the Messiahs is here or there, it is by default the wrong one and YOU will recognize the real one
>23At that time, if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There He is,’ do not believe it. 24For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders that would deceive even the elect, if that were possible. 25See, I have told you in advance.
>26So if they tell you, ‘There He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here He is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.
YOU wont be able to miss his return and YOU will recognize him. Dont get fooled

thanks user

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Bumping for Jesus

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appreciated

All of those documents are in debate as to authenticity. So, let's say you accept it as real. Good. I mean, if you are going to model yourself after someone, Jesus is the way to go, right?

Question. What took God so long?

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Jesus wasn't even a real person, you Jewish cocksuckers

>pic related

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about the part regarding pagan deities in the Bible:
>The bible actually doesnt deny the existence of the different gods. It just says that (most of them) they are not good and non of them are to be worshipped as they are below the most high.
Pagan gods were actually made into demons by the early church. see pic-related for more info

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couple issues with that. For one the graph claims its a linear progress. However there is good evidence there was one great reset, some global cataclysm, good reason to assum there were at least 2 and quite a few stories explaining that it were actually half a dozen or so of them. So its kind of pretentious to claim that you know wether back then people knew or didnt know about God.
Additionally you have things like the native americans Manitou, the spirit that inhabbits all things much like the Holy Spirit. You have the nordic Pagans All Father like the heavenly Father. Bible says that greeks worshipped the biblical God under the name of the Unkown God even. All things hinting towards at least partial revelation. Chances are God did reveal himself in some way but people simply forgot and distorted

except and the issue that pretty much all symbolism around jesus relates to the sun and light, and not some mushroom. . If you want to just take drugs go for it, but dont drag God into that bullshit

fits my view rather well, as I believe fallen angels=reptillians (like the serpent in the bible)=pagan Gods="ays"
where as grey ays i believe to be the spirit of the dead nephilim cursed to roam the earth which fits the narrative of reptillians creating lizards as the fallen angels created the nephillim by mating with humans
Possiblity is also that some of the nephillim/demons (as demons are traditionally the spirits of the nephillim) became deities of themselves and that both were somewhat conflated eventually

>except
Lol, nice lying for Jesus. As you surely already know, Tacitus didn't write a single word about Jesus, and the references to Jesus in Josephus were added in the 4th century.

except
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus_on_Christ
>Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus

also to argue that Jesus didnt exist you must also argue that a dozen people kept being tortured to death because they didnt revoke their testimony on Jesus and could have their suffering end if they did as much as saying they made all the miracles up or that he didnt actually exist. Yet they chose to go through the torture and uphold their testimony. You dont do that if you just want to deceive a few people. also from another user
>And the sixth hour having come, darkness came over the whole land until the ninth hour
Matthew 27:51:
>"And the earth shook and the rocks were split"
The secular Roman historian Phlegon documented an eclipse and earthquake around the exact same time, matching the Gospel account:
>in the fourth year of the 202nd Olympiad, an eclipse of the sun happened, greater and more excellent than any that had happened before it; at the sixth hour, day turned into dark night, so that the stars were seen in the sky, and an earthquake in Bithynia toppled many buildings of the city of Nicaea
tertullian.org/fathers/jerome_chronicle_03_part2.htm

Christianity is just Hellenic pathos. All of the Bible authors were greek educated, influenced and speaking.

Do not talk to us or Joseph's wife's son ever again.

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>literally talmudic propaganda
not even trying anymore

How is Yahweh not just another blood god? He demands blood sacrifice from his followers and then sacrificed his own son as a blood offering to appease himself. I'm a Christian, but omission of sin through death seems very much like sacrificing children to Moloch to appease his insatiable hunger. How do you Christians reconcile God being okay with child sacrifice?

>except
Except Tacitus was writing about writing someone else. Some early Christian scribe literally scratched out the original name and wrote Jesus over the top, not realising that later generations would invent x-ray machines that could see the original ink.

>also to argue that Jesus didnt exist you must also argue that a dozen people kept being tortured to death because they didnt revoke their testimony on Jesus
There is a single manuscript describing those events until centuries later. It's all church propaganda, not something that actually happened.

>The secular Roman historian Phlegon documented an eclipse
Phlegon wrote about an eclipse. Matthew wrote about an eclipse. Therefore Jesus existed!
>Christian logic

>who is Celsus

Nice try rabbi, not falling for your poison.

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it's almost like a... um, oh what's the term... a scapegoat?
how does this concept even make sense in the OT?
>do a bunch of horrific shit
>I KNOW! let's project all our sins on this creature that had nothing to do with it then send it packing
>WHEW! for a moment there i thought i was going to have to actually suffer for my own iniquitues and face my own demons
>but because goat it's all cool bros
sounds like the work of a narcissist at best, a psychopath at worst

wages of sin is death. Thats just how it is. You do evil and death is upon you. Now what can be appearently is having someone else pay for your sins. That is done with animal sacrifices. Then there are cults all across the world that also sacrificed humans. Its basically outsourcing your bad Karma. This was the norm before God came along, killing humans and children/virgins especially to make up for you own shortcommings, and this is what God strictly forbade through punishment of death.
Then you need to consider that God is the Son, he didnt sacrifice someone else, but he came down to earth, lived through all he puts us through and had an especially bad fate being tortured to death essentially, just so we are absolved of our sins. It was the equivalent of the father his life to save a child that caused great damage and received death sentence. the father taking responsibility for his children.

And again, one of the major shifts YHWH brought with him was to forbade human and especially childsacrifice that was rampant through out the entire pagan world. Wether its Europe, middle east, africa, South America, they all sacrificed humans and YHWH was the one to forbade this.

>who is Celsus
You know Celsus didn't believe in a historical Jesus either, right...?

I mean, you have read Origen, right...?

Except sacrifices don't pay for sin?

>Some early Christian scribe literally scratched out the original name and wrote Jesus over the top
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus_on_Christ#Authenticity_and_historical_value
>Most modern scholars consider the passage to be authentic.[4] William L. Portier has stated that the consistency in the references by Tacitus, Josephus and the letters to Emperor Trajan by Pliny the Younger reaffirm the validity of all three accounts
>Scholars generally consider Tacitus's reference to be of historical value as an independent Roman source about early Christianity that is in unison with other historical records.[5][6][7][44]

the best refutation you find on it is
>Although the majority of scholars consider it to be genuine, some scholars question the value of the passage given that Tacitus was born 25 years after Jesus' death.[4]
>Tacitus does not reveal the source of his information
and
>Michael Martin states that the authenticity of this passage of the Annals has also been disputed on the grounds that Tacitus would not have used the name "Christos", derived from “messiah”

>Thats just how it is.
>Child tells his first lie
>Mother smothers him with a pillow
>"He earned that"

>It was the equivalent of the father his life to save a child that caused great damage and received death sentence. the father taking responsibility for his children.

No equivalency here, what he literally did was have 105 billion children who all fucked up and took one who was blameless and put all of their sin on him, then sacrificed him. It's still human sacrifice.

>not believing any of that shit
Feels good man.

Hey, wtf bro

that's one of the main reasons the god of the OT demanded them user - the sin offering - Lev 4 et al
which if i understand correctly is the same god of the NT
there seems to be a huge disconnect here
perhaps instead of letting faggots off the hook with plenary indulgence a better approach would be to make them own up to what they did and actually make amends with those who were wronged
crazy concept i know

>bong stating shit tier rebuttals against christianity
Color me surprised

You faggots are Sweden tier

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No, I don't ready skydaddy apologists. If you believe in talking snakes your credibility goes down to 0 for me. But I will entertain you, point me to the direct quote that verifies your claim.

>Celsus argues that the Christian teaching of the incarnation of Jesus was intolerable and wrong because it not only entailed God changing, but changing for the worse.

>Origen responds to Celsus's accusation that Jesus had performed his miracles using magic rather than divine powers by asserting that, unlike magicians, Jesus had not performed his miracles for show, but rather to reform his audiences.

>Origen defends Jesus's moral teachings against Celsus's accusation that they were merely plagiarized from Plato, stating that it is ridiculous to think that Jesus, a Galilean Jew, would have done such a thing

>Instead, the similarities between Jesus and Plato are merely the result of the fact that the Logos, incarnate in Jesus, sometimes inspired Plato.

From Origen's work you can clearly see Celsus made no such claim. I bring back my original statement, Christianity is Hellenic pathos for retards.

You know that the Wikipedia pages on Jesus were written by people like you, right...?

>Although the majority of scholars consider it to be genuine, some scholars question the value of the passage given that Tacitus was born 25 years after Jesus' death
Liar. The only people who think Tacitus wrote about Jesus are evangelical Christians. But if you still disagree, please explain pic related.

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>From Origen's work you can clearly see Celsus made no such claim
Bitch you've never read a single word of anything that Origen has written. Don't tell me what he did or did not argue.

he didnt even demand it. He was killed because of the kikes, and might as well use it to absolve humanity of their sin while you are at it.
>24When Pilate saw that he was accomplishing nothing, but that instead a riot was breaking out, he took water and washed his hands before the crowd. “I am innocent of this man’s blood,” he said. “You shall bear the responsibility.” 25All the people answered, “His blood be on us and on our children!
Kikes already accepted the blame, why do you try to shift the blame on God then?

>explain this blurry pic that seems to have the ink run off the letter a tiny bit
>checkmate christians
sure. provide a proper source on the subject, that we can talk.

Do you dispute that beasts can talk?

>sure. provide a proper source on the subject, that we can talk.
This is the most recent research on the Tacitus issue. But, of course, you've already read it and you're just pretending it doesn't exist because it destroys your "Jesus was a real person" argument.

textexcavation.com/documents/zaratacituschrestianos.pdf

>Bitch you've never read a single word of anything that Origen has written. Don't tell me what he did or did not argue.

Yes, and I also haven't read the book of Mormon and I don't plan to.

>specifically ask for the part of Origen's writing to support your claims
>get ad hominem in return

Done with christcucks.

Well?

>Done with christcucks.
Ummm. I don't believe Jesus was even a real person, much less the messiah. Perhaps you're confusing me with someone else.

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Were you serious?

Huh? Why did you question me on Origen, then? Also Jesus was real, but he was just another Judaism-lite sectarian cult leader that were common at the time.

They hate Jesus as much as Mudslimes hate the kikey neo palestinian

>I consider it now totally safe to say, in accordance with the examinations made by Andresen, Lodi and Rao, that the fourth letter in “Christianos” indeed has been changed from an “e” to an “i”. Accordingly, the scribe originally wrote Chrestiani, “Chrestians”, which might be what the Romans called the Christians, according to some scholars.9
Oh wow, the only thing that appearently was changed was an E into an I, where as the E according to a lot of scholars is how they wrote christian/chrestian back then. pretty weak since this one letter is irrelevant since its still clear what is referred to.

>Also Jesus was real
Then explain why St Paul writes, at Galatians 1:11-12, that all his knowledge of Jesus comes from dreams

>where as the E according to a lot of scholars is how they wrote christian/chrestian back then
Yes, that could be the explanation. Or Tacitus could have been writing about someone whose name really was Chrestus.

We don't know which of the two explanations is true, therefore you can't use it as evidence for a historical Jesus.

>Galatians 1:11-12

1. I am not a Christian, I am against Christianity

2. If you are against Christianity, why do you regard the Bible as factual

3. Galatians 1:11-12 King James Version (KJV)

>11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. 12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

Clearly the implication here is that it is divine.

>10Am I now seeking the approval of men, or of God? Or am I striving to please men? If I were still trying to please men, I would not be a servant of Christ. 11For I certify to you, brothers, that the gospel I preached is not devised by man. 12I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it; rather, I received it by revelation from Jesus Christ.
does not say dream anywhere. it says it was revealed. Not by man as Jesus is not man but God. revelations can happen while you are awake. Jesus didnt teach him the truth, but showed it to him that he can see it himself. I could tell you that a punch in a face will hurt, that would be teaching. Or i simply punch you in the face and thus i revealed to you that this hurts.

because its so likely that pilate, the same guy said to have crucified christus sentenced to death a guy named chrestos which isnt the christus we know. Or it was even just a typo which he corrected himself. but whatever makes you feel better in your heathenry i guess.

>serious?
As a heart attack.
Science has proven already that animal species can communicate through a variety of sounds. Emotions can be recognised.
There are also vocal learners who can imitate, and use those to get things they want, like food from the owner.
We haven't stopped discovering either.

>2. If you are against Christianity, why do you regard the Bible as factual
I don't regard the bible as factual. Even the seven "authentic" Pauline epistles are suspicious, but we have to use the evidence we have, not the evidence we would like to have.

>Clearly the implication here is that it is divine.
You need a better translation, user. The Greek text describes something being "received", not "preached". The usage of the word "preached" is just another shameless Christian lie.

not to mention the serpent in eden that talked is identified as satan, not an actual serpent. additionally there can be made a case that Eden is a spiritual realm, and as such sure, animals can simply speak as our souls are not bound by language i would say. There is a donkey speaking in the bible, but he is only made to talk by God himself as its directly stated, as God can do whatever the fuck he wants.

>does not say dream anywhere.
Obviously you know that the ancients believed dreams, hallucinations and "revelations" were exactly the same thing.

Only a moron would complain that Paul used one word rather than the other.

>because its so likely that pilate, the same guy said to have crucified christus sentenced to death a guy named chrestos which isnt the christus we know
Do you know how many Jewish messiahs the Roman authorities executed in the 1st century?

No, of course you don't, because you haven't even read "Antiquities of the Jews"

If you died today do you know for sure you're going to Heaven?

Here's how you can know for certain: youtu.be/WDEBz25lGdY\

1 John 5:13
These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
>that ye may know that ye have eternal life

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>not to mention the serpent in eden that talked is identified as satan, not an actual serpent
Lolnope. The serpent in Eden is the same serpent described in the Genesis creation story.

You haven't actually studied the bible, have you?

Have you remembered to donate to your local refugee center, christcuck? You need newfags to support your brothers

"My poop is my penis, and my penis is my poop. Accept this, for it is he who poops and pees unto me who shall receive eternal blessings in the form of poop balls." - John 8:16

What did G*d mean by this?

>All of the Bible authors were greek educated, influenced and speaking.

He thinks there are only the masoretic texts....

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kek forbidden + sign

I agree, there are definitely patterns and this subject is interesting, however your hebraic pilpul, along with the scientific evidence of the quran can go fuck themselves.

>the dog barked and made me do it
off yourself mate

I see you are objecting to the word "preach" and favor "received" which again makes sense and they can claim is the divine origin. The core of my argument being that historical jesus being real is of no difference to the anti-theist argument, divine jesus is.

This relies on the bible being factual, therefore it could be just as wrong if the Bible isn't factual. Weak.

I don't give a shit about your kabbalah

>If you died today do you know for sure you're going to Heaven?
Oviously you know the gospels were just collections of stories from the Old Testament, re-written with Jesus at the centre of the action rather than Abraham/Moses/David/Solomon, and that therefore we can't believe a single word of them, right...?

>Jesus' soul went down to hell when he died, for 3 days and 3 nights, even though he never sinned according to the same speaker
>and even though the speaker believe he's God incarnate
this is incongruous with his own statements

>Lolnope. The serpent in Eden is the same serpent described in the Genesis creation story.
yet revelation says
He seized the dragon, the ancient serpent who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years.
identifying that ancient serpent as satan.

back then everyone went into the hades after death, and Hades merely had an area for the just an one for the unjust people.

>yet revelation says
Who cares? The scholars aren't even sure that the Book of Revelation was a Christian text.

hell is not hades. they're not even close to the same concept.
you can't just interchange words and go "see people go to hell because hades and yes"

and fuck even then, belief in christian scripture would require disbelief in a place such as hades.

there are multiple terms at play for the underworld. Gehenna and Hades for example. both are biblical. And depending on which translation you use these seem to be used interchangebly. In example KJV mentions hell when pretty much all others speak of the hades
biblehub.com/luke/16-23.htm

so biblically both, hell ("Gehenna") and Hades exist, its debatable though wether they are the same or not. would need to cross reference different mentions of each, look which word was used in the original and the different descriptions of each case linked to the specific original word.

>110IQ bulgur, a relative genious by his village standards, thinks he knows the world

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>faggot

some bump

You a Jewish cocksucking faggot.

appreciate the bump, bong

>appreciate the bump, bong
Suck my dick, faggot

i dont think im the faggot if you want your dick sucked by me. just saying...

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>i dont think im the faggot if you want your dick sucked by me. just saying...
You know Jesus was gay, according to the Gospel of John, right...?

We are to understand it's a linear progression. If it's not, then there is no evidence suggesting otherwise. I provided at least a visual representation of the assumed, and paleontologically backed understanding of how humans and religion have progressed throughout the thousands of years we've supposedly existed.

You've been at this bible learning stuff for a while now. Provide some counter-arguments or evidence to support your claim. It'd help to convert more to the truth.

If jews hate jesus and christians so much like you claim, their hate or love is irrelevant because 2000 years later they still are controlling and dominating christian societies. Christianity has made you weak and cucked.

well, we can savely say there was a reset 12.500 years ago wiping away most of the people and thus the knowledge
fairly recently there came news about a huge impact crater in greenland that is possibly 12.000-15.000 years old
nationalgeographic.com/science/2018/11/impact-crater-found-under-hiawatha-glacier-greenland-ice/

Metallic mini particles from that time hinting to a huge impact from around the same time
phys.org/news/2012-09-theory-impact-event-years.html

journals.uchicago.edu/doi/10.1086/695703
clearly says there was a mass amount of biomass burning at the same time

and göbekli tepe speaking of exactly that event at the exact time
telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/04/21/ancient-stone-carvings-confirm-comet-struck-earth-10950bc-wiping/

additionally Hancock spoke about the alignment of the Pyramids and Angkor wat from precisely that point in time before ANY of the news above came out.
This is the one i would say is pretty certain it happened

I wouldn't simply dismiss any/all of it. There's a there, there. Each person must find their own way to it. Just because I'm challenging OP doesn't mean I don't believe in "something". As a matter of fact, the texts in red are quite the life guide.

They didn't start controlling Christian society until liberal left wing scum weakened Christianity in Europe though. America was always cucked desu.

>additionally Hancock spoke about the alignment of the Pyramids and Angkor wat from precisely that point in time before
You know that Hancock has an IQ lower than the average nigger, right...?

>HEY SOME FAGGOT WROTE A BOOK!

The Cataclysm 12,5k years ago I believe was the rain of fire like the aztecs call it aka an astoroid or comet hitting the earth like Göbekli Tepe tells too. The last Cataclysm I trust the bible saying it was around 3k BC, well actually around 2,4k BC, but there is the issue that kikes deleted 600 years out of the life from Shems descendents to pilpull around and claim that Jesus cant possibly be high priest
youtube.com/watch?v=VI1yRTC6kGE
(ignore the part about the pyramids, on that point the video is actually lacking some stuff, but it explains how all translations come from a faulty scripture.) pushing back the flood 600 years which happens to be at the time couple of cultures around the world seemingly independently created civilizations +- a couple hundred years
ancienthistorylists.com/ancient-civilizations/10-oldest-ancient-civilizations-ever-existed/
I believe they are merely the remnants of what survived

They also found something they believe to be the arc which is dated at around the same time (4800 Years)
news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/04/100428-noahs-ark-found-in-turkey-science-religion-culture/

However if the time frames inbetween are always the same it would mean the gap between cataclysm would be around 7 thousand years like that book of Thomas says too taking the time inbetween the last 2 as reference

this is the second cataclysm for for which there is good reason to assum it happened that i mentioned
is one of many accounts about repeated global destruction.

>HEY SOME FAGGOT WROTE A BOOK!
Have you even read it, he asked, expecting the answer "no"

>Were the pyramids built before the flood?
There was no flood, you moron.

Love these threads every time i see them it makes me so happy. God is alive. An NS heart knows jesus.

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