Why didn't the Hungarian do the same thing to Slovaks...

Why didn't the Hungarian do the same thing to Slovaks, Romanians and Croatians that the English did to the Scotts and the Irish? England replaced their religions with Catholicism, made them speak English and replaced some of their cultures. Why did Hungarians allow their vassals to continue their costums and speak their own languages?

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because magayars fear the vlach bvll

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ironically enough we forced hungary to change their religion
they were originally protestant, but krabaters taught them that lesson the hard way lel
>Why did Hungarians allow their vassals to continue their costums and speak their own languages?
they didnt give a shit what they spoke and what culture they have, this is not west europe, you cant keep track of these things

>England replaced their religions with Catholicism
What?

Anglo saxon migration was probably just a lot more intense and continous slowly replacing the british natives

Meanwhile once the hungarian nomad tribe is there, nobody is following to keep up the process of replacing the locals

Culture of doing nothing. We don't really care about anything.

England forced the Irish to convert to Catholicism, back when everyone was Catholic. They later accepted the Lutheran reformation while Ireland remained Catholic

british locals were cucked urbanized roman people
slavs were savages, even worse so than the anglo saxons

Because hungarians were kind. And god punishes europe for what it did to Hungary.
France,Uk,Germany os destroying itself, the slovaks and czechs want to be under hungarian influence again(v4), Romania is the laughing stock of Europe.

>they accepted the lutheran reformation
no they didn't, henry the 8th fought against luther, he created his church because of more practical reasons, only his sons later adopted some mroe protestant aspects
theres a reason why is called "via media"

is that why romanians/walachs had hungarian ruling classes ruling over them for centuries?

yes i agree, but as a whole, they accepted and adopted the faith, rather than being forecfully converted like the irish

why does it matter who is your rulers culture, they all spoke latin among themselves anyways and had a culture completely separate from ordinary people
hungairan and vlach nobility are the same shit, just different sounding surname when you are a peasant

>were originally protestant
no we weren't

well your entire people adopted it and even now after all the pruges we ve done together with austrians there are still some trash remaining in this very day

Actually, Ireland started becoming christian even before Anglos invaded Britain, so what you've said is true only if pre-Anglo-Saxon British population is considered somehow related to modern day England

they werent forcefully converted
gaelic nobility converted because it was opportune and the people followed over the course of few centuries

When? They didn't even rule Wallachia or Moldova for a century before getting kicked out of both.

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No, that's because they are dirty immigrants to Transylvania.

we were catholic originally, then by the time the reformation happened much of the Hungarians already harbored a strong anti-Habsburg sentiment, so taking up the protestant faith was kind of a natural act of rebellion since the Habsburgs were all devout catholics.
anyway, the point is that you did not force us into anything, and we were never a protestant nation

i dont identify as croat
kajkavian separatist master race

Except you didn't

How can you be in a country as small and irrelevant as Croatia and still want to become even smaller and less relevant?

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transylvania had large romanian populations and hungary ruled over them, they weren't even interested in removing them from the area. and a couple of battles won doesn't really mean anything

>we were never a protestant nation
yes you were regardless what you see as a reason for it (there were multiple and anti-habsburg is only one of them)
>the point is that you did not force us into anything
krabat soldiers from slavonia and galicia did in fact plunder hungary in kaisers name until you came to your common sense and convert to the true faith

Brainlet

Because Hungarians are not animals with no souls like angl*s and actually fought and died to protect their minorities from the turks

Also hungarians came AFTER these minorities so it was impossible to assimiliate them

Transylvanians could not unite against the bozgors due to their communities being isolated geographically and demographically. Moldova and Wallachia were much more homogenous and able to unite into states strong enough to defend themselves.

Cuz you faggots got to camp out on your island where no one could get you, meanwhile Hungary was the battleground of Europe between Hapsburgs and KARA BOGA.

>moldova
>homogenous
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA

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Don't try to argue with an Orthodox person. They lack the capiblity of logic.

>England replaced their religions with Catholicism
???
Catholic missionaries were in Ireland before England. England converted to Christianity under the Romans, but when Germanic people settled there they had to be Christianized again. Scotland became Christian largely thanks to Irish missionaries. The English Reformation began separately from the Reformation on the Continent but was largely influenced by it, especially with Elizabeth I. Scotland became Reformed independent of England.
>made them speak english
Much of the Lowlands was speaking English in the Middle Ages, England didn't force Scotland to speak English, it's just that it was more influential and prestigious and gradually replaced Gaelic (Gaelic did the same thing to Pictish).
>via media
Bit of a meme that came to be emphasized in the 1800s when Anglicans really started LARPing as Catholics, the Anglican Church today is much more "Catholic" (in appearance) than it was in the 1600s or 1700s.

person who says moldova has ever in the history of planet been homogenous clearly lacks the capability of common sense

i believe you were orthodox originally, most of the conversions were done by slavs but later you become catholics. very odd

Your beliefs are retarded. Although both Orthodoxy and Christianity were present in Hungary.

All tatars were genocided. We Moldovans are 200% white.

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croatia and hungary were eastern christians because tehy were converted by byzantine missionaries and since they were on the border of franco-byzantine influence they switched to western when byzantium went to the crapper

The English were able to replace local culture with their culture.
Hungarians have no culture.

Byzantines sending here some missionaries doesn't mean that everybody converted to Orthodoxy. Some people probably did, but the majority didn't.

>doesn't mean that everybody converted to Orthodoxy
they did until st stephen showed them the light of true church

2 reasons:
1. Mongols
2. Turks

The Mongols pretty much decimated the country, 30-50% of the population died, it pretty much had to be repopulated. Whats more, Hungarians occupied the centre of the country, the territories that were the most affected by the destruction. This meant that there were no reserves of the Hungarian ethnic to settle the depopulated areas with, new settlers had to be invited from the border areas or outside the country who happened to be non-Hungarian migrants.
2. Rinse and repeat the aforementioned with the Turkish wars that lasted for 150 years.
Sadly it seems everything that happened was inevitable, by the time Trianon happened, the ethnic composition drastically changed for the detriment of Hungarians.

>Your beliefs are retarded
you literally were converted by orhodox slav priests, most of the early leaders were orhodox, it was only when german influence spread to hungary the royal family became catholics. i know this from crusader kings 2

No, they didn't.. Even after the death of Stephen we had pagan uprisings.

and i believe that by the time hungary was invaded by ottomans, your kings had already been germans and habsburgs for generations

>he Mongols pretty much decimated the country, 30-50% of the population died
15-20%*
Maybe you should read books instead of shitty Swedish games. Byzanties sent some missionaries, yes, but they didn't achieve many success. We had few monasteries.

The last time England had an English king Welsh language was a thing.

Thats absolute bullshit tho. First of all, when Croatians or Hungarians converted to Christianity, there was no Western or Orthodox Church yet, the scism happened in 1054 and Hungary converted around 997-1000, Croatia even before that probably.
Second, the crown was given to our first king, Stephan I. by the pope. Not by the Byzantine emperor, the fucking pope. Now what does that tell you?

we were fucked by turks too
had to genocide quite a lot of people to become the majority again
it was their own fault for settling on our land tho, what else did they expect, that we will share it with them?

i used the term eastern and western christianity for that very reason
the division existed although it wasnt full blown yet

Well, we dont know really, but it was extremely severe for sure, the contemporary chronics say the whole country became a cemetery and Béla IV. got the name second founder of the country.

>the crown was given to our first king, Stephan I. by the pope. Not by the Byzantine emperor
this has been refuted by historians. the pope story sounds good but turns out it might have been fabricated to create a stronger identity for the country by king coloman

When Hungary was converted there was only one Church. Christianity in Hungary (both Western and Eastern, there are still many Eastern Catholics today in Hungary) was always more influenced by Rome than by the Byzantines.

Hungarians should have converted to Islam, it would have saved their crown (well, sultanate) and they would have had a moral right to take care of their minority problem like Turkey.

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>Hungary converted around 997-1000,
More like it took 200 years
>Second, the crown was given to our first king, Stephan I. by the pope.
That's kinda a legend.

>the scism happened in 1054
Even then there was co-mingling between Eastern and Western Christians in the Balkans for centuries after the Schism, it wasn't a sudden break for these communities

>this has been refuted by historians
proofs?

i heard that when the ottomans conquered hungary, they saw them as their llost turkish brothers who were under the christian curse, and they wanted to save them from christianity by showing them islam

>hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hierotheosz
>Az ortodox kereszténység azonban nem vert gyökeret a magyarok közt.
Proving my point, thank you.

Secular nationalism did more harm to minorities in Turkey than Islam ever did

should have genocided you for sure desu

Unlike the Scots and Irish, they weren't laughably overpowered

plus the hungarians were way too busy with constant succession wars, and in the end, the natives here are way more stubborn than w*sterners

>natives
kek

>30-50% of the population died, it pretty much had to be repopulated.
does that mean that ancient and original hungarians are extremely rare and most of modern hungarians are other resettled europeans? what would the ancestry test of an average hungarian show? very mixed?

20% died max, commies just exaggerated it ot 50%, just to show how incompetent kings and nobles were.

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what exactly is the graph saying?