I secretly heavily admire what the USA (used to) be and the ideological foundations of its birth as a nation but I would never admit it in real life.
I secretly heavily admire what the USA (used to) be and the ideological foundations of its birth as a nation but I...
Henry Clark
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Jace Smith
What did the U.S.A. used to be?
Brayden Taylor
A really successful paradise, the best country on earth post-ww2 by a long shot.
Chase Hernandez
Based
Nathaniel Hughes
How so?
Nicholas Moore
I admit it openly that its founding fathers had the right idea. They were men of incredible wisdom, foresight, and integrity. That Americans take their precious constitution and their rights for granted is deeply saddening.
Cameron Peterson
Some of them do, yes.
The rest of us know how fortunate we are, and will do what it takes to keep it.
Fortunately, the Found Fathers also foresaw a need and means for that.
Jordan Young
Also so many Americans are so apathetic, not involved, and don't care about the government when no other government on earth is as transparent or permissive as America's. For example, we have public information requests where anyone can request information about any government official or organization.
We also have the most autonomous local governments with cities, counties, and states having their own authority and jurisdiction.
Noah Parker
I don't. Fuck them for genociding the Natives. They were even worse than the Brits.
Sebastian Wright
Poland they were brits.
Oliver Phillips
>he wants to live peacefully with the culture that invented scalping
good luck.
Gavin Harris
The US founders were great men, unironically. Scientists, statesmen, philosophers. The system of government they created was very far-sighted.
Justin Williams
1965 ruined this country. LBJ is the worst president, Buchanan is better. Change my mind.
Lucas Sanders
Not really. It may have worked at that time but it fails us today
Parker Miller
The system worked for over 200 years and only failed because it entered a postmodern world where nothing is true and social media pervades every crevice of society. That's pretty impressive.
Isaiah Ramirez
>European education
Parker Bennett
Which one? The first one that only lasted 8 years or the second one that immediately revealed its faults but by then was too late to fix because it forces partisan intransigence, eventually led to a ghastly civil war, and is constantly impacted by legislation from the bench?
It's true that many of the founding fathers were geniuses, it's also true that in most cases their greed far outpaced their brilliance.
Lincoln Cooper
Loosen the headband on your fedora, dude. It's cutting off the oxygen to your brain.
Ryan Campbell
I'm with you. In fact right up to the Vietnam war I 100% admire the U.S.A, it's been getting sketchy since (though since it benefits us we aren't supposed to complain, I guess). Especially post-9/11 U.S.A has been nothing short of embarrassing.
Oh and that whole thing about treating black people like animals was kinda shitty too.
Lucas Green
I'll be honest, I can't even resent 'em for it. Rule of the strong, and at the end of the day the world is better off for it. I'd much rather have a superpower nation that's pushing technology and science for our collective benefit than a bunch of "noble savages" dancing around fires and shit.
Plus it was way long ago so who cares.
Caleb Sanders
Go back to your containment thread, neo-chink.
Kayden Anderson
>Especially post-9/11 U.S.A has been nothing short of embarrassing
Is a weak argument to use since that's probably the only US you remember in your lifetime.
Asher Torres
Just read something not written by a fanboi. Something better balanced that takes into account historiography from both sides.
>tf
>tp
Jackson Brooks
>you can't trust history! must have lived back then to know!
I mean really? And anyway I've been around to experience the 80s and 90s and America's image was way more positive. Even as a child/teen you can still see these things, especially since it's easily the most influential country over here. Your image is deteriorating.
Gabriel Cooper
The founding fathers were retarded drunks that had no idea what they were doing. Washington for example tricked drunk people at bars, foreigners who couldn't speak English and slaves into joining the revolutionary army against their will
Liam Martin
>Your image is deteriorating
I didn't vote for Obama. Don't look at me.
James Carter
Excellent post
Don't forget the time he started a major war by himself, mostly through war crimes and incompetence.
Jack Gomez
At least we are not sucking the queens dick
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Anthony Foster
Sad
Josiah Hughes
Masons must hang
Evan Scott
Can you get info about secret NSA dealings?
Henry King
Don't the Civil War proves it didn't worked?
Jaxson King
enlightened
tyrannical
Carson Garcia
The strong survive, they'd do the same, only worse if they could.
Of course the jew is a bugman science worshipper with no concept of the value of the free and unrestricted human spirit. Couldn't spread your porn without the internet and javascript could you?
Jason Anderson
No, we suck a piece of paper's dick despite blatantly misinterpreting it
Liam Miller
I will rather suck a piece of paper's dick rather than suck some rich bitch's dick across the sea
Owen Sullivan
My British ancestors FUCKED UP moving to Canada instead of based USA
Alexander Murphy
du är en patetisk jävel
Owen Ramirez
>politics isnt dominated by the metropoli cancel the constitution right away
Charles Bell
That's a misquote and always misunderstood by readers.
Cameron Taylor
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Mason Clark
What is with you two making everything about sucking cock?
Jeremiah Howard
You could say the exact same things about Nazis, Icek
Andrew Barnes
>tf
>tp
kys chink :)
John Sanchez
Gee, I'd rather have Nazi Germany then a bunch of baby dick suckers and shit.
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Oliver Nguyen
Americans just forgot to reset the system (with the blood of patriots) before it got more powerfull than them. And now they can't and are stuck with a system that needs a reset.
Aiden Howard
the classical liberal era of the usa (independence-end of wwii) was unironically based and redpilled
after wwii when they tried to constantly stick their noses in everyone elses affairs is when america went to shit
Christopher Gomez
>after wwii when they tried to constantly stick their noses in everyone elses affairs is when america went to shit
It's funny because basically every western country has adopted this habit now
Carson Cox
used to be eh?
well, I don't miss what Norway used to be, a frozen hole of poverty run by swedes or danes
Julian Foster
More than half of them were just regular guys.
>its flawed so its completely bad
The high level of partisanship we have today is relatively new and every other democracy on Earth has the same problem, even if not to the same degree. There's no forced dogmatism - that's just the way we took it, which is the beauty of it. Our government is how we want it to be, and that has been reflected over history. This isn't a bug - it's unironically a feature.
>legislation from the bench
Okay, you're just running your mouth now. You're pretending to be rigorously educated about U.S. government, but you obviously aren't.
Chase Green
They were also incredibly racists.