Do you believe in ancient Slavic civilisation?

>muh analytic languages are simple

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Proto-Iranic and Proto-Celtic had eight cases, three genders, three numbers, three moods (indicative, optative, imperative), five tenses (present, preterite, impefect, aorist, future) three voices (active, middle-passive, passive)

>this butthurt

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Anglos are language mutts

There is a cyclical trend towards becoming less inflected.

>Proto-Iranic
~2000-1000 BC

>Proto-Germanic
~200 BC

See a difference?

You are wrong
Slavs are Iranic
I am Iranic

Say something in your Iranic language then.

Fuck you faggot

This

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>six cases, three genders, three numbers, three moods (indicative, subjunctive (PIE optative), imperative), and two voices (active and passive (PIE middle)).
Sounds like an average modern Slavic language. It's hardly absurdly complex, there are far more complex languages out there.

Jasne!

>there are Iranic loanwords therefore the language is Iranic
This is "English is Romance" bullshit all over again.

Nigga you don't even have Z93 markers in your genome

You guys are retarded. Every language can express all of this shit to some extent, the challenge is mainly about consistency and frequency. When you don't have a dedicated and clear way of doing so, you must be elaborate, and make use of context and inference, and specific irregular phrases. Arguably languages mainly reliant on cases are much simpler due to being more systematic, regular, and linear. Because if you want to express the equivalent of a case, especially an uncommon or nuanced one, you have to use much more elaborate, specific, and complex constructions rather than merely tacking a fairly regular affix onto a word. I think a language that uses cases as much as possible would be the ideal, as it is the simplest and most systematic, and can't be misunderstood as easily. My own language is so varied with innumerable malleable phrases for a wide range of purposes including grammatical, that I find case-heavy languages to be superior from a theoretical point of view.

I don't need no meme markers my man
All I need is the endless steppe beneath me and Ormuzd's watchful eyes above me

English is Romance, or to be more precise English is a retarded dialect of French

Why are you treating a case system as some magic thing? It's expressed in English by prepositions and word order.

If prepositions were to become mandatory for all nouns, word order could be freed up and we would effectively have a case system. If those prepositions become fused to the word, we'd call them declensions rather than prepositions. That's all it is.

>it's the 'i read a wikipedia page on Achaemenid Empire' episode

No, fuck p*rsians, they keep acting smug because muh civilisation muh cities but they're a bunch of arrogant cucks and I bet mudshits will replace them in a few centuries
Gotta migrate west before shit hits the fan
t. Sarmatian
PS: fuck scythi*ns, fucking bydło the lot of them

of course
>The origins of Slavs are veiled in mystery
exactly

Thinly veiled cope

yes

should it live?
should it die?
that is not a problem at all.

life, death, slav

slav=occult,cult,fascism,death,life,relision, or ?

slav operates the whole world.
slav is the soul of the universe.
slav is the bottom of your heart.
slav transcends surrealism and realism.
slav is inherent in every self.
slav is inherent in every structure.
slav is inherent in every system.
slav is decadent and may cause self-collapse.

slav vacumeir alles
slav plays with all elements

The Messenger of fear
The Child of darkness and confusion
The King of infinite decomposition
The Khaos

slav

slav absodivides the WORLD

Words cannot explain slav. More accurate:
Don't think. Feel and you'll be slav.

full-length mirror Evening glow Wave of those passing
Disappear wholly. Roadside tree murmured in the heart Swing
with a child which tries to be the first Scene
It falls to why or cardiac bolting Slope two persons
fall with you and it falls
-- the setting sun -- Without it rises again a new slav
-- shining -- eternal -- Eternal

happiness?

It’s not a mystery retard. Slavs all come from Belarus, around the 6th century AD they were forced out by a combination of overpopulation from upstreamed agriculture tech, Turkic invasions, and climate change. They managed to control Central Europe and the balkans demographically because the real natives were nearly wiped out by the plague of Justinian which was a bubonic plague which happened during the initial stages of Slavic migration. The Slavs that migrated their mixed with remaining natives and produced modern day slav shits.

also Slavs used to breed like cockroaches, there’s literally a half billion of them running around today. Thankfully they have low birth rates now so they’ll be dying out. Thank god.

Why weren't the Slavs affected by plague?

The initial migrants were but Slavs migrated for 300 years nonstop. Central Europe and Balkan’s weren’t majority Slavshit in 550 AD moron.

I believe in a Slavic future.

What's to stop the Germanics from taking up the vacuum in the Balkans then? Or the Balts or Finns or anyone else in the region? It's not as simple as you're making it seem.

No it’s as simple as that. Slavs were just another piece of scum breeding uncontrollably within the right circumstances. Slavs are not native west of the vistula and dniper. KYS slavshit

>slavic
>civilization

Error

I believe in Tartaria

Proto Germanic seems easy
Try Lithuanian language, which barely evolved through history and even today have words similar to latin and sanskrit
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuanian_language
For example, we have 11 moods.

WE WUZ SANTA'S HELPERS N SHIET

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Slavs, is in fact, Wends and Slavs, or as I've recently taken to calling it, masterrace and slavshits. Slavs are not an ethnic group unto itself, but merely a linguistic group made useful by based Wends, a vital group thanks to which Europe exists.

Many Jow Forums users mistake Wends for Slavs every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the Wendish group is often called "Slavs", and many of Jow Forumsolerants are not aware that it is basically the Wends, a Central European masterrace.

There really are Slavs, but Wends are no part of it. Wends are different, much more civilized and stuff. This is essential for you to realize. Slavs often include Wends, but basically it's Slavs with Wends added. All the so called "Western Slavs" are really Wends

No I don't

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they came from the sea

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We wuz Wends and shiet

That map stops at 3900BC. That's before the Indo Europeans split up (Where that ? north of the Caucasus is). No Greeks, no Persians, no Hittites, etc. So how does that map say anything about Slavs?

There aren't even artifacts in proto-Slavic ancient cultures, they're just made up names.

Retard.
High Yamna admixture.
Yes. Slavs are Proto Indo Europeans.

Lies of a Slavo-Farmer mutt.

These are actually interesting posts, pity you can't have a discussion without memes or namecalling

>Yes. Slavs are Proto Indo Europeans.
I think the Iranian speaking Scythians were more like the Proto Indo Europeans that never left their homeland on the steppe.

Apparently the Slavs spread by the Slavic language spreading to these Iranian speakers for some mysterious reason. In that sense you might have a point.

Or rather East Euros and early Iranics(Sintashta and Andronovo)were the same people, ultimately coming from Corded Ware, which spoke some archaic Slavo-Iranic mix.

Hmm, so the Persians were really Slavs? I guess the Slavs did have an ancient civ

Also. That would explain archaic Iranic and Baltic loans in the Finnic language, since their mommies were of Corded Ware descent and CWC used to live in Finland prior to natural disaster that wiped them out.

>Slavic civilization

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No. I said early Iranics. Persians were mixed people.

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Definition of a Nordic changes all the time to fit their orangeskinned narrative. They are subhuman mutts without sense of belonging. Egyptians? NORDIC. Romans? NORDIC. Greeks? NORDIC. Their East Euro neighbours? Nah, some brachycephalic mongoloid spawn.

They are retarded and you can't reason with them. After all, they are only fishermen and poor ones at that, Norwegians left their shithole and went to America because of famines and they weren't welcomed there with open arms, instead Anglos mocked them for being squareheads. Their viking legacy is nothing either. They got terrorized at Baltic by Slavic and Baltic pirates so much, that they had to leave for England and Frankia lool. Losers. Such is life and legacy of a Scandinigger.

>Norwegian """"""civilization""""

I can see the poop in your brown eyes

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I was being facetious since you are calling the Corded Ware and Andronovo cultures Slavic before there was a distinct notion of Slavic or Baltoslavic or whatever. May as well call all the descendant cultures Slavic too.

When was the first university in Norway found?

Norwegians are swarthier than my people.

It's either this or Slavs don't exist and suddendly come from outer space.

Of course I do. I myself am a descendant of Hyperboreans.

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1347

And what was it's name?

University of Dinmor

No, they came from the Corded Ware. But so did the Italics, the Celts, and the Germanics. The time scale is off, there were no distinct Slavs at that time.

It would be like asking where the Romanians came from and you say they founded the city of Rome in eighth century BC.

Well, looks like we have to bow down before superiour norwegian civilization and their great contribution to Western world.

Centum speakers have nothing to do with CWC.

The only remotely relevant Czech person in the last 500 years is a Jewish guy.

I bet more people use Norwegian inventions daily than Chechnyan inventions

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Kafka?

Czechs contributed to humanity ten thousand times more than a snownigger. One Czech baby is worth more than your entire population. The only good thing your country is at, is producing fake blonde women for foreign dick. Deal with it.

20 billion years ago - the beginning of the universe
15 billion - the formation of the Solar system and the planet Earth
4 billion - the beginning of life
500 million - the emergence of first humans (both yellow race and modern people)
30 million - apeman (Java Man) appears
25 million - reappearance of modern humans in the area of modern Iran
5 million - Homo Erectus appears in Africa
100000 years ago - Neanderthals appear
40000 - formation of the Russian ethnos in the upper Mesopotamia
30000 - Russians advance into middle Mesopotamia and Arabia
25000 - migration to the Northern Balcans, Black Sea Coast, farther to the north and into Europe
15000 - Russians migrate through the Caucasus
10000 - emergence of the largest Russian state - Troy
9000 - creation of the Russian script in the area of Northern Black Sea Cost, Dnieper and Carpats. The Book of Veles is written, - the first written history of Russian people.
8000 - rise of the largest Russian city - Asgard
7000 - Rama's expidition to the east and to India. Creation of the Vedas
6000 - new wave of migration to the north
5500 - Second migration of Russians to Mesopotamia and to India through the Hindu Kush mountains. The rise of Harappa and Mohenjo-daro cultures.
5000 - Russian culture reaches China and influences the Yangshao culture. The influence on the Aegean civilization, Northern and East-Northern Europe.

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Yeah

Our existence alone causes an existential crisis in your mind.

If anyone wonders, this is a Polish person

Congratulations. Your briliant mind figured it out after I stated it hundred fucking times already, you idiotic homo.

polish or not, he's right

Kafka was pretty based indeed, try Hrabal if you liked Kafka.

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From the Wikipedia page on corded ware

>The Corded Ware culture may have disseminated the Proto-Germanic and Proto-Balto-Slavic Indo-European languages.

I have also read other studies suggesting the Corded Ware formed a sprachbund from which Italic and Celtic formed.

Centum and Satem isn't thought of as a fundamental division that happened once anymore.

>literally lives in a Nordic founded country because his Slavshit country is dysfunctional

the absolute state of you

looks like an album jacket of black metal

No. Wiki article is outdated by now. Italics and Celtics derived from Bell Beakers which mixed with Hungarian Yamna people in Panonia and then spread North, West, South and even East.

Corded Ware descendants today are: East Euros, Iranics and Indians(allthough very diluted), Finns and Germanics(but only influenced, not directly spawned)
Nordic founded country? The absolute fucking state of kangizm.

finno-korean hyperwar tier

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Yeah he is a good writer on WWII but a weird guy

>The absolute fucking state of kangizm

Ah yes, as opposed to 'Slavic civilization' discussion in this thread.

You already got severely BTFO though. Slavs have culture, Scandinavians and Germans on the other hand copy everything from Anglos and Americans.

Toilet cleaning and plumbing isn't culture. You are seething because you have an inferiority complex.

>Can't distinguish genetics, language, and material culture

Seething.
Yes. You clearly have a problem with that.

Steppe_EMBA + BMAC Iran_N people = Vedic Slavs :^)

I don't believe in current slavic civilisation

4000 - Disappearance of the Indus River civilization. Russians move to the north-west of India (modern Punjab)
18th century B. C. - Third migration of Russians into Asia Minor and Balkans
17th century B. C. - Russians conquer Egypt and rule it for 150 years, influence its culture and writing. Gandash's army conquer ancient Babylonian kingdom.
13th century B. C. - Acheans raze Troy. 20 ships of Russians troops led by Aeneas arrive to the Apennine Peninsula. Beginning of the Etruscan civilization.
A group of Russians led by Antenor settles lands from Spree to Dnepr and up to Baltics, Creation of the Lusatian culture.
In the year 1250 Judeans conquer ancient Russian city Russka Oselya (founded by the military leader Kiyan) and renamed it Jerusalem. Mount Siyan and the Temple of Yav are renamed into mount Zion and the Temple of Yahwe.
12th Century B. C. - expedition into China and desctruction of Ying kingdom. Children of Bogumir and Slavunya - Dreva, Skreva, Poleva, Sev become the originators of the tribes of Drevlians, Krivichs, Polans and Severians.
11th century B. C. - Russians appear in the Adriatic. Venice, Verona and Vienna are founded.
Fourth migration of Russians through Thrace and Bosporus into Asia Minor and into Transcaucausia through the Darial Gorge
10th century B. C. - Rise of Russian culture in the Seven Rivers (basins of Rhine, Laba, Vistula, Oder, Neman, Western Dvina and Neva) with the capital on the island Ruegen - Velikograd
9th century B. C. - Rise of Russian culture in the basin of Dnepr and middle Danube. Kiev is founded.
8th century B. C. - Rise of Russian culture in Urartu under king Rus I.
Punitive campaign of Russians on Israel led by Gog.
7th century B. C. - Rise if Russian culture in Carpathians. Russians conquer and destroy Assyria.
6th century B. C. - Victorious expeditions into Belgium into Holland, conquering of Celts.

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>4000 - Disappearance of the Indus River civilization. Russians move to the north-west of India (modern Punjab)

Aryans didn't arrive in south Asia until like 1400 BCE or something and the IVC was gone by 1700 BCE. The native abos probably chimped out and started fighting their zagroid masters. Meanwhile Andronovo + Afanasievo people got muttified by mixing with zagroid BMAC people and this el diablos de las esteppe mixture migrated further southwards and mixed with the descendants of what used to be the IVC to make la luz extinguido.

Before all of this, the Andronovo and the BMAC probably jew'd the Afanasievo people for a few centuries by selling them second hand bronze shite.

Yeah... certainly more successful and relevant than yours lad.. more importantly more powerful.
Who are you again?

бaмп

Slavs first came somewhere from Iran when the climate was different
Migrated and changed over time and more so the further they went.
Some settled here but changed the natives, the language remained somewhat.
I dont see why anyone would migrate from far away to a rocky desolate place like hercegovina, its where the natives were and somewhat still remain.
Thats why its wrong to call anyone from the balkans 'white' as in germanic white, because we never were white to begin with.
The more west you go, the more germanized the slav tribes are, the more east, the more mongolized the slavs are, mixture of slav+native.
Further east of russia experienced a quick expansion so not much changed except for a few russian cities.

>ancient Russian city Russka Oselya (founded by the military leader Kiyan) and renamed it Jerusalem
I can't tell if you're being serious or not

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