Why they hate Russians?

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We don't

True
Look up world war 2
We defeated the hun

Can't have one without the other.
You probably dont know Russian culture.

Why the fuck would Poles like R*ssia given their centuries of colonialism?

Who doesn't hate russia at this point?
russia is an evil country.

I just do not understand why are you ashamed? You are the heiress of the Golden Horde, the largest empire in the history of mankind.

We are the lelouch of the world
We will end america

Russians are our slavic bros
I don't, theyre not evil, stupid monkey.

No, in fact I like Russians a lot

Russian/German mutts. They are in denial of their heritage

>get conquered
>mongols free to invade deeper into Europe
>only stop because politics
>later invasions fail because European countryside is a vietnam tier nightmare to invade due to all the castles

Russia is the definition of good
Russia will save Europe

Save from Europeans?

>Scatvian education
First of all: Russia never loses
Second: VI VON
And third: euros are cucks they never really met mongols

america is evil too
you two should stop being massive dicks

t. Vladimir

Maybe, the only modern Russian culture I know is from stereotypes but I really like the aspects of past culture which they took from French

No, we are not mutts you fucktard.

What are you idiots talking about?
We drove the last remaining Horde and its later successors like Ottomans from Europe.

Save them from Western cucks, yes
>t. Vladimir
Wrong

ruskies are good people but they shouldn't be allowed to govern themselves

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No, the last major descendants of Genghis Khan - the Mughals - were subjugated by the British, ergo Britain saved Europe from Mongols.

you're retarded. Defeating rump states that were not capable of invading anyone and holding on for their dear life is not the same as saving Europe. Europe was saved by all their invasions westward failing in the late 13th century, like their 1285 invasion of Hungary. Russia's main contribution to these invasions was providing troops to fight alongside the Mongols, against Europeans.

YOU AGAIN!

>Russia's main contribution to these invasions was providing troops to fight alongside the Mongols, against Europeans
Lmaoing at scatvian education

MUAHAHAHAHHAA!

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>russian
>kultur

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east slavs are traitors

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Sometimes I get a feeling that Poles is the most butthurt nation on int

It's only people who cannot forget about past

Russians == mongols? Is this a fucking joke?
Stupid thing I ever seen.

Come home quicker i want to see it

so..why you do make threads literally made of butthurt 24/7 (like this one)?

I'm proud of being a proud mongol
Mongols > slav(e)scum

You're a fucking revisionist moron.
Russias political maneuvering, unification and rebellion against the horde and the retacking of Russian lands is one of the most major causes that led to the downfall of the Horde.
It's remnants later being destroyed by the Russian empire.
>The Crimean Khanate became a vassal state of the Ottoman Empire in 1475 and subjugated what remained of the Great Horde, sacking Sarai in 1502. After seeking refuge in Lithuania, Sheikh Ahmed, last Khan of the Horde, died in prison in Kaunas some time after 1504. According to other sources, he was released from the Lithuanian prison in 1527.[80]

>A unified Rus conquered the Khanate of Kazan in 1552, the Khanate of Astrakhan in 1556, and the Khanate of Sibir in 1582. The Crimean Tatars wreaked havoc in southern Russia, Ukraine and even Poland in the course of the 16th and early 17th centuries (see Crimean–Nogai raids into East Slavic lands), but they were not able to defeat Russia or take Moscow. Under Ottoman protection, the Khanate of Crimea continued its precarious existence until Catherine the Great annexed it on April 8, 1783. It was by far the longest-lived of the successor states to the Golden Horde.

The internet is a strange place

>trusting proto-ukrs

Antil then just posmotri vot etot film

alkislarlayasiyorum.com/m/content/100243/turkse-chick-wesley-sneijderin-esinin-oynadigi-kisa-film

>Maybe, the only modern Russian culture I know is from stereotypes
So yes, you dont know it very well

those were Ukrainians, not Russians.

hate the country, love the peeps.

t. plunger man

plumber even*

Why do you hate the country?
Have you visited?

Tamozhenny soyuz is ruining our pastries :C

Russia is part of globalisation, your culture can be defined same as anyones in modern days, although you still have more of traditional surviving tradition, that are not affected since they are hard to reach and that is one of thosethings that I respect about Russia. If you will save Tatars in Crimea you will have the full respect of Lithuania.

what i meant is the state, the government if you will

historical russia, former ussr, tsarist russia, were massive enemies with russia and tried to eliminate our language culture and by extension, ,our nation.

but i love the ruskie dudes

youtube.com/watch?v=w0hurJKOTpU

holy shit im too sleepy, "massive enemies with poland"* is what i meant

ussr and current russia are indeed massive enemies of russia

tsarist russia idk, reading Chekov's Sakhalin and it seems like tsarist officials cared a bit, at least the governor of Sakhalin

> Ukrainians appeared in the 20th century
> REEEE UKRAINIANS TRAITE HUNGARIANS (LOOOOOOOOOL) IN THE 13TH CENTURY
absolute bipolyarochka

i meant historical russia, and ussr being enemies of poland.

Back when Slavs defeated Mongols you and Russians were the same. Ukrainians are modern inventions from Polish occupation

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Pointless post
>historical russia, former ussr, tsarist russia, were massive enemies with russia and tried to eliminate our language culture and by extension, ,our nation.
So what? Why would you cling to past beef? It's not like Poland dindu nuffin too. The modern world doesnt care.

>Were the same as Romans and Romanians

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You a are Russo-Polish rapebaby

politics do care, history leaves an imprint on the modern world.

again tho, im real ok with the peeps, im just skeptical to the government and the state. maybe not hatefull, but sketpical

but then again im skeptical to my own government too lmfao

You should come visit

Actually we came from different slavic tribes of Old Rus.
We're from polans and volynian, they're from some else northern tribes. Also half of them aren't even slavs and are descendants of finnish tribes.

The myth of a single people was created by Moscow to strengthen the empire. And like you continue to believe it. Google the Ugro-Finnish tribes on the territory of the modern European part of Russia (Murom, Yerzya, Chud and many others).

Back in the high middle ages the difference wasn't enough to get butthurt over like now though

i actually thought many times of the idea, seems interesting (and somewhat cheaper than alternatives). it seems like an underrated tourist/travel destination

We are practically united genetically and culturally with the Poles (although this is unpleasant). At the same time, the Finno-Finns are strangers to us.

Explain to me why there was no Ukraine up until the 19th century

>although this is unpleasant

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>Google the Ugro-Finnish tribes on the territory of the modern European part of Russia (Murom, Yerzya, Chud and many others).
Kek what does that have to do with anything. Sure, the slavs are a single people, the other are tiny tribes of colonized people. We also have tatars, as do you and yakuts, buryats, etc.

For the same reason that the Czech was not until the 20th century

>At the same time, the Finno-Finns are strangers to us.
Faulty logic. Having finno-ugrics in our territory doesnt change your history as an offshoot of Russians and Poles.

Wrong. The difference between Ukrainians and Russians up until the 19th century was like the difference between Venetians and Milanese. The only people who wanted to be an independent state where the same kind of people who think that Venice should be independent, or Normandy should be independent: crazy radicals that are a very small minority. It was until Polish propaganda and German occupation gave those people power

Good question, why there was no Germany until 19th century? who even knows. Just countries appear and disappear. Ukraine was it wasn't politic state.

Why do Poles hate Ukrainians?

Ukrainian people occupate Poland

Germany was held independent because of the ego of the princes as well as domination by Austria. Ukraine was a happy state of the Russian empire because like I mentioned before there was no real desire to leave because they didn't see themselves as significantly different

> thinks that genetic similarity is higher than cultural and political interests

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You should, it's pretty nice.
We also like Polish tourists))

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Maybe? And? there was absolutely no difference between aussie and english, between americans and english. But now it's diffrent states. We can't be under rule of Moscow. They are from younger Principality. And we are from elder one.

What dose that have to do with what I said? I was referring to cultural. Ukrainians pre Polish annexation were just another slavic tribe in the slavic union that was Russia.

Volhyn Massacre, whole families burnt alive in churches, mixed polish-ukro families forced to kill one another, UPA, etc.

mostly right now it's a 'press f to apologize' thing, poles only have disdain for ukros that still love bandera, who was the main agent of the volhyn crime, while he was also i think the main guy behind their independence.

theyre fine with volhyn, they know it happened and its the past but nationalistic poles can get pissed ukros still love bandera who they believe is just a criminal. same as with you hans, you did your shit in poland too but you know its bad so we're all good, that sorta thing.

i spoke to few ukros and i know its a bit hard for them since bandera might've done what he did but it's like their single most significant historical figure and indirect cause of their independence

i know some dude on steam with whom i played games with who shared pictures from his dorm room in moscow from one of those YUGE commieblocks, very high up. its depressing, but the good kind of depressing if yo know what i mean lol, comfy
like city 17 aesthetic

That's significantly different. The English were isolated islanders. That difference is big. The people that moved away lost a connection, and their children were even further removed. Ukraine was not a colony of Russia

>Volhyn Massacre, whole families burnt alive in churches, mixed polish-ukro families forced to kill one another, UPA, etc.

Hohols did nothing wrong, desu

Where are proofs of this? There was nothing in germans archives. If it was massacre, then you did the same with silesian germans and can't blame us for anything.

Only here the center of this union was Kiev and the Slavic tribe of Polyan. At this time, on the site of Moscow croaked frogs.

>we wuz kings and shit
if your tribe was so great you wouldn't have been ruled by moscow

i dont want to get into a shit flinging contest 'it did happen it dindu happen' like we are on Jow Forums about holohoax.

i dont believe silesian germans were abused by polish at all, given they merged with poles and formed their own little sub culture of silesians which all poles universally fucking love by the way. ukros did not seem to merge the same way with poles.

and there are multiple sources and evidence of volhyn crime, witness testimonies, some even still alive today, just google it really.

nothing in german archives because it happened in 1944, the frontlline was collapsing in the area, germans were in full retreat.

Man it's just playing with words. If you want Ukraine and Russia within one state then you should unite back with England.
Anyway it's not time for talks about common past of Ukraine and Russia. They didn't think about it when went to kill us and invade our land.

who cares?

>If you want Ukraine and Russia within one state then you should unite back with England.
Again; not even close to the same.
>They didn't think about it when went to kill us and invade our land.
It was their land, by law, that you illegally rebelled. Living somewhere does not make the land your. They conquered that land, which at the time was how you expanded. You're basically just squatting there

I repeat once again, we are older than the Muscovites. You are talking nonsense, it’s like that today's Romanians will tell the Italians that they are descended from the Dacians, LMAO

You don't believe? So now it's religious question?
Ok, and i believe that poles are just pathetic rats who got what they deserved whatever it was.

this desu. people have their own opinions. i knew a girl in hs that almost fetishized russian culture, learned russian, listened to russian stuff etc, then i have an uncle who hates the fucking country lol