Lol

>also roosevelt's plan was based ngl
definitely
West German capital was Bonne.

Because the French were our allies, and Germany had just caused the deadliest conflict in history to fulfill vain imperialistic fantasies

This is so obviously fake it hurts

East Germany best Germany

Nazi Germany was a highly centralized state with Berlin being the heart of it and everyone wanted a piece of the center, going so far that the Americans traded the occupied areas in modern day Thuringia to the Societs for a piece of the prestigous capital.
Frankfurt not becoming the capital of West Germany was due to corruption.

Pacman Germany

BASED roosevelt
think of how much headache might have been saved with the balkanisation of germany
very sad that the cold war had to kick off so soon

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Bolshevikipedia up to its usual lying polack-edited antics again. The territory was not """annexed""", all the treaties + allied statements post-war are very clear and explicit about the fact that eastern germany was just transfered over to temporary polish management on a time-limited basis and that no annexation was to be done in accordance with the hague conventions

We WILL get this stolen clay back, do not worry. In regards to inter-european politics Brexit is just a small taste of things to come in the 2020's and beyond.

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The French fought against us. Hell even the French resistance was started by the British.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Port_Lyautey

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German–Polish_Border_Treaty

>in accordance with the hague conventions
Yeah the whole thing violated the international agreements of the day. Same with the USSR taking parts of Eastern Poland.

>Bolshevikipedia up to its usual lying polack-edited antics again. The territory was not """annexed""", all the treaties + allied statements post-war are very clear and explicit about the fact that eastern germany was just transfered over to temporary polish management on a time-limited basis and that no annexation was to be done in accordance with the hague conventions

>We WILL get this stolen clay back, do not worry. In regards to inter-european politics Brexit is just a small taste of things to come in the 2020's and beyond.

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So we can have Turks and niggers in that land instead? no thanks.

>The French fought against us.
See this from the point of view of the French State of Pétain: you were attacking a neutral France.

>Hell even the French resistance was started by the British.
What? It was started by the General De Gaulle

The French sacrifice at Dunkirk allowed Britain to stay in the war, ensuring Germany's eventual defeat. Whether they deserved an occupation zone is up for debate, but Germans certainly didn't deserve to keep any of their conquered lands, including Alsace-Lorraine, and are lucky they're even allowed to exist as a nation today.

>Why did France get anything?
Why not? France may have lost the Battle of 1940 but it was still an important country and the French participated in the invasion of Germany.

>We should have let the Germans keep Alsace Loraine instead.
Why? And how would you do that anyway?
Germany just lost a war it began, why would they get additional territory?
The French just recovered Alsace-Lorraine a few decades prior, and the inhabitants didn't want to be under German rule, so why would you take it back?

>Churchill partition plan

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>the inhabitants didn't want to be under German rule
"The French Government immediately started a Francization campaign that included the forced deportation of all Germans who had settled in the area after 1870.
First language (1900)
German and Germanic dialects: 1,492,347 (86.8%)
Other Languages: 219,638 (12.8%)"

and... how does it contradict what I said?

All Germans who had settled the area AFTER 1870 were deported. "After" is the key word.
The original inhabitants of Alsace-Lorraine weren't deported, and had opposed their annexation to the German Empire 70 years prior, as shown by the fact that the elected Reichstag Alsatian deputies had repeatedly expressed their attachment to France with the following statement:
>"May it please the Reichstag to decide that the populations of Alsace-Lorraine that were annexed, without having been consulted, to the German Reich by the treaty of Frankfurt have to come out particularly about this annexation."
If Alsatians didn't want to be part of Germany in 1874, in 1881, in 1884, in 1887 and during the Saverne Affair, I don't think it would be wrong to assume that they didn't want to be part of Germany in 1940 either.

>what was churchill smoking
Well, Austria and Prussia did go to war once and he was kind of old fashioned, possibly he was hoping for a divide in North and South German identities.

>the inhabitants didn't want to be under German rule, so why would you take it back?
Oh yeah they were in fact so anti german that you put them into fiucking camps to contain their pro french sentiment

encyclopedia.1914-1918-online.net/article/alsace-lorraine

>Churchill-plan allows us to be together with Hungarians
Unironically based

is right. Also, I'm doubtful regarding the veracity of your source. Sure, Alsatians had resigned themselves to their fate by 1914, but saying that the region was well-integrated into Germany is completely wrong. In many regards, Alsace-Lorraine never found its place in Germany; its economy never found itself integrated into the Reich, for starters. The early decades of German rule disrupted the Alsatian textile industry and it began a decline it never recovered from. The region's mineral wealth made up for this decline, but also meant that Alsatians were not the owners of this new industry, but Altdeutsch companies like Krupp. The decline in local textile industries actually led to an outflow of Alsatians back to France as well as an inner-German migration of laborers into the industrial regions of Alsace(who were deported back to Germany when France reconquered Alsace-Lorraine).

>but Germans certainly didn't deserve to keep any of their conquered lands, including Alsace-Lorraine,
I was being facetious.

>Sure, Alsatians had resigned themselves to their fate by 1914, but saying that the region was well-integrated into Germany is completely wrong. In many regards, Alsace-Lorraine never found its place in Germany; its economy never found itself integrated into the Reich, for starters. The early decades of German rule disrupted the Alsatian textile industry and it began a decline it never recovered from. The region's mineral wealth made up for this decline, but also meant that Alsatians were not the owners of this new industry, but Altdeutsch companies like Krupp.
Source
>The decline in local textile industries actually led to an outflow of Alsatians back to France
You mean those 50.000 who took our offer to get french citizenship ?
Germany was very tolerant with French in comparison to the Poles

>Source
Berghahn, Volker R. Imperial Germany: 1871-1918 : Economy, Society, Culture and Politics. New York: Berghahn Books, 2005

Pflanze, Otto. Bismarck and the Development of Germany: The Period of Unification, 1848-1871. Princeton: Princeton University Press, 1963

Bismarck and the Development of Germany: The Period of Consolidation 1870-1880. Princeton: Princeton University Press, 1990

>You mean those 50.000 who took our offer to get french citizenship ?
No, I mean a gradual outflow of Alsatians back to France.

>No, I mean a gradual outflow of Alsatians back to France.
I couldn't find anything besides those 50.000
I know that people from central france had to leave