south korea should be better prepared they're surrounded by evils
Landon Harris
Yes. Taking away the nukes and they’re practically a paper-tiger. Russia was never an offensive power anyway unless they counteracted a diminished invading force.
William Stewart
I meant isn't it being generous to include them in second rate, wouldn't three be more appropriate?
Gavin Collins
I guess but I think they might have some strength to them. Although they’re inferior to UK, France, Japan and Germany imo.
Hudson James
>Although they’re inferior to UK, France, Japan and Germany imo. that's what I was thinking as well. I have to think that their technology is just absolute shit
Landon Edwards
Nuclear powers should be above the rest
Jaxon Evans
>tf >tp no chang chong more active soldiers doesn't make your military stronger
>Mexico Did some work helping train their version of Marines. They weren't even allowed to use rifles after a couple of days because they had zero idea how to handle a weapon properly. The first day we were there they were using fully loaded rifles as pointing sticks, pointing at other people etc. Worst was dealing with two who were fucking around and pretending to stab each other with their rifles, with their fingers on the trigger and loaded with one in the chamber. At that point if there was nobody else around I was willing to just stand there and see if one of them would shoot the other.
this is such shit. russia maintained the largest standing army in the world specifically equipped and trained for an invasion of western europe for 50 years
Caleb Thomas
>China >First-rate power
Your flag betrays you
William Jackson
Please stop posting. Your idiocy reflects badly on me and your entire country.
Nolan Garcia
He’s just joking around bro
Chase Ramirez
israel is the most powerful nation on earth cuckboi
why do retarded brainlets still think japan's military or germany's military are relevant
Brandon Walker
Not even memeing Australia and Canada are both higher than basically everyone in the 3rd rate power list
Aaron Murphy
I was gonna say Australia and Canada should definitely be 3rd rate I don’t agree for higher (or lower) But I do agree you should both be in 3rd tier
Daniel Howard
Hoping that the OP is just baiting and didn't make this list for real >Romania >Syria >South Africa >Argentina >Colombia >No Greece in the fourth rate and not even in the fifth one, that's the biggest kek >Egypt not in the third rate
Julian Perry
without outside intervention, north korea's military alone could steamroll western europe and anyone who actually knows anything about militaries would agree
William Nelson
>if we get rid of their massive nuclear capacity we have nothing to worry about! that's why they should be first rate
Jeremiah Thompson
1st Rate Power >USA
Not Insignificant Power >China >Russia >U.K >France >Germany
Some Defensive Power >Japan
Irrelevant >rest
Robert Lee
>Putting Germany with their broomstick machine guns in the same category as Russia, U.K., France and Japan
Japan has a pretty decent navy and an alright army, actually. Keep in mind that their hands are tied by article 9 of their constitution. Though they probably shouldn't be in the same group as countries with nukes.
Jordan Barnes
The only thing that ever made Russia powerful was human wave tactics. Now that China and India are unified, USA is a thing and even shit holes Bangladesh have more people than them, Russia is nothing special
fun fact: she left him after a year or so and he ended up dying in a car crash
Thomas Ross
poor guy
Jack Torres
I respect British attempts at trying to stay relevant although you haven't been for like 80 years so far but do people on your island sincerely believe that you still have army, influence or power across the Earth?
Easton Hernandez
10th place cope
Evan Sanders
Isn't it funny how anglos who lose their shit over the sole fact of Russia still existing to this day, same anglos who just wont shut up about Russia possibly invading entire Europe over 1 day and nuking everyone, put it lower than their countries on power ranking chart?
USA is the only first rate power. China has the ability to conquer most of their neighbors at once if no other first or second rate powers intervened, but Only America was the ability to conquer multiple countries at once on the other side of the world. China can't do shit outside of Asia militarily.
Jayden Ramirez
dont they have the most tanks in the world?
John Perry
But america can't
Kevin Price
Maybe, but first they'd have to get there. It's the same reason China is not a first rate power. It can't do military actions outside of Asia.
Daniel Morales
Most of these are old t72a But T72b3m will fuck up any tank any day
The biggest threat to the United States military is not another country's military, it is the mood of the American people. The United States Navy and Air Force could destroy the Navy and Air Force of any country in the world and enforce a naval blockade. Then with Air and Sea dominance, strategic locations could be captured or targeted that would cripple the enemy army. The United States military could destroy any other nation's military's effectiveness, but it is dogshit at occupying hostile territory.
Logan Evans
Doesn't that ranking include bullshit like cultural achievements?
David Robinson
I can say Australia is still better than us. Our equipments are still pretty shit, atleast until our future projects fully completed.
North Korea, even having old weapons should be second
David Flores
>Japan Aren't they not allowed to have an army or something?
Lucas Watson
No Australia in 1st
Zachary Bell
China isn't even close to the US
Jonathan Bell
We do not die to other countries like you.
William Bell
>The United States military could destroy any other nation's military's effectiveness, but it is dogshit at occupying hostile That's why ignoring asymmetrical warfare as a form of warfare is stupid. Mao lost battle after battle until he conquered all of China. Ethiopia defeated Eritrea but didn't conquer it because they knew that they could win a traditional trench war but that an insurgency war would screw up the Ethiopian nation itself. For the same reason, they obliterated the Somali ICU, entered Mogadishu in triumph - and then fucked off back home. Americans used to be good at counterinsurgency (Philippines, Haiti, Panama), now it's like they have lost all focus.
Nolan Lopez
>germany as 2nd rate
lol good joke. we got less than 300 MBTs operational and like 220 fighter jets out of which only 140 are actually decently useful for air to air combat Also, we dont have nukes. most 3rd or 4th rate cunts from that list could steamroll us in a 1v1
Nicholas Robinson
>Also, we dont have nukes You do have nukes, you simply don't operate them :^)
Wyatt Young
no, we dont. americans have nukes that they stationed in germany. We cant do jackshit them unless the american president specifically gives the order.
so, americans have nukes. germans have no nukes.
Nicholas Morris
But seriously, why do US army never lacks recruits, happy to die in senseless wars? Over here the army has massive cadre problems because nobody wants to serve.
Brayden Gutierrez
That's because the only viable ways to defeat an insurgency are a no-no in a modern democratic society.
Carter Butler
that's simply not true, if you're at all familiar with the subject. Russia is 1st rate, no doubt. their country is a shithole but they invest A LOT of money into their army, it's modernized and very efficient nukes non counting
Jonathan Martinez
They seem powerful because they are thumping dwarfs like towel heads in Syria. At the same time they could even defeat Ukraine which was an absolutely failed state. They even had the Ukrainian army's officer corps infiltrated by their agents.
Easton Flores
? ukraine is a delicate situation. russia could level ukraine within a day, but they need to consider how much force is necessary, how much they can allow themselves to take without the entire world stepping in, etc etc.
John Reed
Basically, anyone who has uranium enrichment technology can make atomic bombs at any time
Jace Green
the average american is not very smart at all and at the same time brainwashed into the america is #1 meme from kindergarten so patriotism is strong
this is why you have trump etc.
t.lived in america for an years and had the chance to look at HS textbooks of friends i made there - they were full of propaganda.
Alexander Rivera
>Russia was never an offensive power anyway Aren't their airborne troops (VDV) good?
Hunter Ross
yeah but germoney is way too bluepilled since that last world war to make any kind of weapon that could kill millions in one go. literally will never happen while they are part of NATO
Zachary Evans
brrt wont do shit to tanks
Nathan Foster
900k
Bentley Adams
they think they're good
Russia doesn't really have the logistics to sustain any sort of offensive operations far away from their home turf.
Ethan Cruz
The American nation is an artificial one whose cultural identity was first formed by the revolutionary war and remolded by each successive war. If America were to stop fighting wars, the country would lose it's identity and wither away.
Julian Ortiz
Not being funny but we could honestly scrap trident in secret and I doubt anyone would know, might as well mothball it desu
It really depends on the unit You have retards like 83 brigade who can only fight in cities or you have super commandos like 45 who can spend months in enemy's rear echelons
Man - the pilot training here allmost came to a full stop due to bullshit or weather and that is even the case for the oldest planes they got.
And this is just what's out in the media. I think they really intend to wait for a European effort and want to step up with something very new rather than polishing the ol' bullshit they've got. They do know that their airforce is currently no match for any serious enemy. And so should you if you want to make a serious comparison in power.
Brayden Williams
>Saudi Arabia >Higher than Egypt
Is op a faggot ?
Austin Ortiz
USA is the only first tier military. Stop being such a retard, seriously. How have you not killed yourself? You also put the only blue water navy in Asia in tier 3 which again, is retarded. Putting Pakistan in the same tier as India is also fucking retarded. India and SK don't belong with the tier 3s. Why does everyone keep rating Japan and Germany like they're some kind of sleeper op military. They aren't. Get your head out of your ass.
Ryder Russell
Of course. He put Indonesia, a country who's military vehicles are hand me downs from the 60's and is so easily dividable it's chooses to remain neutral in conflicts, in the same tier as modern military's like South Korea, Turkey and Israel.
Jason Gutierrez
Indonesia is a literal meme country, any country with a decent navy can just blockade them until they starve to death
Joshua Perry
Brazil would make sopa de macaco.
Hunter King
sopa de macaco can melt steel beams, dude watch out