Honest thoughts on brexit?

Honest thoughts on brexit?

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Britcucks getting blown the fuck out by based EU

honestly confused why they they can't just tell the EU to fuck off

>honestly confused
it's ok many amerishits are like you

Its way to funny seeing the brits in such a predicament

>american education

May crushing EU dick? That hand looks tight.

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economy is too tied, too many euro corps in uk and vice versa, travel, customs and so on

euro market isn't just some country wanting something from uk, anything uk provide for eu eu can find elsewhere

positionally a hard brexit will isolate uk and bring about economic downturn unseen in british history even if temporary

>honestly confused why they they can't just tell the EU to fuck off
it's called contracts and laws that have to be anulated and replaces properly + the actualy hard stuff is to define the future relations to the EU (which amounts to majority of brit trade).

They want all the sweets from the EU like the trade and cash and market protection but they don't want to do anything for it.

I think it's supposed to be Trump actually.

this, not to mention UK's best trading partner always has been continental Europe, since EU is customs union as many other things aswell, it will be very difficult to maintain good trade relations with EU members including France and Germany. Hard Brexit is the worst thing that can happen to UK and after failed Brexit deal in UK's parlament, EU has big leverage.

it's pretty based and you can easily deny that

signed agreements.

>Telegraph being smug how merry ol' little england is 10% of EU exports and them going out will put the union to death
>meanwhile 60% of UK commerce is with EU countries, 40% of their food is from EU or from countries with which EU has trading deals they will have to negociate again
It's just too funny

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There are four freedoms that anyone participating in the EU free trade area has to accept: movement of products, services, capital and labor. You have to accept all of them or you can't have full access to the market.
The UK wants to keep full access to the market excluding the freedom of movement for labor (aka EU immigration). The EU stance is clear, either all in or all out, there can be no exceptions to these rules.

haha imagine if you could trade with other counties without being tied down in a failed attempt at a superstate haha

And get buttfucked as you try to negotiate with a country that is 10 times bigger than you

You can, enjoy your customs and no just-in-time-deliveries though.

Aha yeah I'm sure they will make better deal as a single country in a position of weakness rather than when part of a united market of a billion people

Absolute state of how salty yuropoors get about bregzit

>"f-fucking britcucks, pls come back"

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imagine a trade union that remained just that, a trade union

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That's not an argument. Do you think the UK will get better trading deals after brexit or not?

it's fucking stupid. each 'issue' can be fixed while keeping our freedom of movement and staying within the eu

It's a good thing.

EU is supranational and thus anti-freedom.

Swexit soon I hope as well, fuck the EU.

Dijon principle, you utter brainlet.

this is a finnish soldier

so you would think. reality shows its not the case because everyone hates everybody elses solution.

we dont want you to come back we want to see you britts crash and burn.

>everyone hates everybody elses solution
Yeah well that's the same in a democracy but that still exists somehow and I dont hear people complaining about it

Well it will hurt our economy, it's pretty reasonable wanting to prevent it (at a reasonable cost)

cause they are cucked and bluepilled unlike you

They will be fucked in the next 5 or 7 years because that, unemployment will rise a bit, the Moors will be there no matter what, some of the last Europeans will have to leave all will be more expensive for them, the pound will lost value too, it isn't the end of the world but they will be worse, who cares ....

This is pretty much well explained.
If one of those values is compromised then we can all pretty much disband.

EU has shown unexpected strength defending these 4 fundamental values that it selected as its core and in that it gained a lot of my respect desu

Tell that to your EU leaders

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>EU has shown unexpected strength defending these 4 fundamental values that it selected as its core and in that it gained a lot of my respect desu
That's because disregarding those 4 values is a threat to its very existence. We've never truly seen the EU threatened that way
We're in for a few interesting decades I think

I for a change don't want the UK to collapse tbqh
I'd like the Brits to learn a lesson on arrogancy but they probably won't, not even if we were to invade, win and teach that lesson with a whip for 50 years

So I'll accept anything and hope Britfriends will be ok

It's true, but a lot expected the EU to be soft or at least divided

Brexit shifted me quite strongly pro-EU, although in Muslim migration I stand firmly with Poland's stance

It's like the three musketeers motto

>Brexit shifted me quite strongly pro-EU
It wasn't only you. I think the EU realized that being a pushover isn't popular and started pulling its weight

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Switzerland? Even EU citizens need to apply for a work permit in Switzerland and have to stay 5 years for permanent residence

The far-right has yet to understand that it's not possible to stop the migration at a national level. EU has to be strong so that it gives appropriate means to countries like Greece and Italy to absorb the migrant waves and send back those who we don't need or whose life wasn't in danger in the first place. That's the only way we can deal with the threat in the coming décades.

What about Switzerland? It's not EU.

I always thought that Muslim migration lies deeper. It is a result of Westerners breaking the EU freedom of movement of people principle by opening itself to its former colonies. Am I wrong?

some cringy idea i wouldnt support but fun

ive checked uk subs everyday cause watching them is actually fun. bong liberals are triggered every single day there. basically its an endless shitfest
i hope no deal brexshit comes true

They got a very good deal with the EU, why can't UK get the same?

Brexit's reasons are deeper, I don't think it's just the EU

That's also a problem, but even if no legal migration was to take place you'd still have the others to take care of. I see hungarians boasting about them they managed to "turn down" the invasion of their country, but that's because no migrant wanted to go there in the first place.

I feel like it will be very hard for UK for a while...but i guess eventually they'll manage and find some form of arrangement.

This
Make so that the EU has responsibility over its external borders and immigration will end in a few months (as it happened with Erdogan, for example)

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Why did the UK join the EU if they were gonna leave it?
What has changed in that time?

Because that's not how you do politics, when you're in charge of a whole country.

You think they didn't have the same issue about immigration? They even had a referendum about it and here is how it ended:

>Swiss-EU bilateral treaties on single market participation are all co-dependent; if one is terminated, then all are terminated. Consequently, should Switzerland choose unilaterally to cancel the free movement agreement, then all its single market agreements with the EU will lapse unless a compromise is found. On 22 December 2016, Switzerland and the EU concluded an agreement that a new Swiss law (in response to the referendum) may require Swiss employers to give priority to Swiss-based job seekers (Swiss nationals and foreigners registered in Swiss job agencies) but does not limit the free movement of EU workers to Switzerland.

euobserver.com/justice/136398
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Swiss_immigration_initiative

How hard is it to arrest an illegal migrant and send them outside of EU?

May was offered a Norway-style deal, but she rejected it.

theguardian.com/politics/2018/nov/30/theresa-may-rules-out-norway-style-brexit-compromise-with-labour

Implying the EU doesn't just loving filling every single Euro country with a brand spanking new population that will inevitably find itself rejected by the host countries traditional nationalism. What purpose could such a demographic trend possibly serve to a proto-superstate in need of a boundary crossing powerbase?!??!?!

Madre de Dios...

Elites liked EU because being a member is a good deal. Population actively loathe us Europeans and Cameron gambled on a referendum that he lost because of mentioned reason. Basically the system likes EU but they live in a democracy so they have to leave.

we don't loathe europeans we loathe allowing the basket case that always have been euro politics bleed into our system

Americans really don't get the EU lol

bendy bananas!

Let's make one thing clear: UK didn't vote for Brexit because of Polish migrants or the way Merkel handled the refugee crisis.

They voted for Brexit because they were tired of being stuck in 2nd place, eternally trailing Germany, a country they defeated twice and that still rose to eclipse them each time. They voted for Brexit because they are still clinging to the distant memories of their long-gone empire, distant echos of a past that will never return.

Brexit is the result of a British inferiority complex.

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>says the eternal anglo while he keeps meddling with continental politics

in your dreams pablo

Nyehehehehe!
Well said, master!

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Norway is pretty much is basically in everything but name in EU, they bend all over EU rules like Schengen area, freedom of movement for workers, they uphold European Justice court decisions also accept EU regulations and etc to get access to EU market.

Norway-style deal means getting cucked, everyone knows that
Still it was better than the deal May's got offered lol

>UK didn't vote for Brexit because of Polish migrants

they literally did. They are THAT stupid. They got fooled by a fucking bus

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This Italian is right desu

>they literally did

Well then they are kind of dumb lmao

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>tfw a literal BUS caused the future collapse of a country's economy

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>They got fooled by a fucking bus
Oh yeah that bus was funny. I'm sure Nigel is politicizing to raise the funds of NHS at this very minute. Lmao brexit and Trump have been two rays of sunshine into depressing state of affairs in international politics.

If i were Teresa i would pull out and then just bail lmao. Britan speaks the lingua franca and has longstanding positive relations with dozens on countries around the world. Change is never easy and some people will eat shit from a no deal brexit but as far as i can tell thats what you get for being a continental cuck. Dont let your memes be dreams, JUST DO IT!

Brexit literally caused the rest of Europe to move closer together

Thanks for your sacrifice, britmutts!

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More like centuries of democratic tradition while you fucks were living under the Russian Absolute monarchy within living memory! You just can't compete fingolibro.

You don't think the continentals wouldn't love to meddle in ours and don't do so whenever they get the chance? Of course they do you retard thats what they call the "international community" point is being in the EU shackles us to all of Europes second rate governmental systems. We're doing better keeping a stable government in the middle of a huge unprecedented difficulty than you can manage in a normal year you fucking pastanigger

Switzerland, Norway (and Iceland?) agree on these terms, plus they pay a certain fee for accessing the market and have to implement EU regulations without representation in Brussels.
The same model was offered to the UK but they refused hoping to continue their divisive European politics of the past 200 years

Part of me doesn't wish suffering upon millions of Brits but at the same time they got away with being the most evil empire in history so they probably deserve some of it.

>More like centuries of democratic tradition while you fucks were living under the Russian Absolute monarchy within living memory! You just can't compete fingolibro.
Dude we were an autonomous grand duchy and had universal suffrage before you lot. Don't tell us about democracy.

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I did an exchange in Switzerland for a semester and I found it has much higher quality of living than the other country I did an exchange in, The Netherlands. The Netherlands is experiencing a lot of crimes, stabbings, shootings, attempted terrorist attacks, but there's literally no "no go zones" in Switzerland, it's so safe that it's boring. And Dutch wages are low after taxes but their housing/living costs are insane so people take morgages they can't afford. You will see Dutch people complain all the time about paying 2000 euros a year for uni which is nothing to Americans, Brits, and Swiss, but Dutch cannot pay it back.

You forgot Lichtenstein.

>Part of me doesn't wish suffering upon millions of Brits

This is where you and I differ.

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not even close. When we're so far in the future that all the people's we assblasted so badly are dead, they will look upon us as the romans, they'll copy our titles and our themes and aesthetics the same way the west used to do with Rome and Greeks. Speaking of Greeks the man of the future will look Upon the USA as the Byzantium to the UK's Rome. Thats is to say they'll consider you the same as a bunch of second rate Rome larpers who weren't anywhere near as interesting or dramatic.

I thought this brexit meme was funny until the company i work for closed it's European distribution center in the UK with no survivors. That was brutal. Tthey are now saying that British products will be more expensive and with a hard brexit supply lines will be interrupted because of the sudden trade barrier and paper work no one is prepared for.

Trump is still a funny meme though.

>ou will see Dutch people complain all the time about paying 2000 euros a year for uni which is nothing to Americans, Brits,
I am sure the Dutch could afford it, but there is the widespread opinion in Europe that education must be free.
I prefer the Netherlands tho, they live from their own hand's labour while the Swiss are a blood sucking cancer same with Liechtenstein

>AUTONOMOUS GRAND DUCHY
oh my lord don't make me laugh. That just makes you like the Isle of Mann or the Channel Islands. They're part of the UK but they're so irrelevant they can kind of do what they like (provided it doesn't offend daddy England). And national suffrage for what? your subjugated rump parliament?

Absolutely. I just bought a new pair of Solovair boots because of Brexit. It's disgusting that good people are losing their jobs just because of incapable politicians

GOTT STRAFE ENGLAND

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>And national suffrage for what? your subjugated rump parliament?
Even if you don't count pre independence years, we still have had universal suffrage longer than you. Also you have FPTP system lmao but that isn't really relevant, only funny my democracy deficient friend.