Why did Han Chinese never rebelled against the Manchu Qing Dynasty?
Why did Han Chinese never rebelled against the Manchu Qing Dynasty?
Read history
Of course they did, many times
Google Mandate of Heaven.
IIRC Formosa and South China was Ming-loyalist for quite some time, no?
1. There was no clear articulation of a distinct "Han" identity until near the end of the Qing.
2. Chinese identity is primarily cultural and not ethnic.
The Chinese are a very peaceful people. They could have conquered the world if they had wanted to, but they didn't. Unlike E*ropeans
>IIRC Formosa and South China was Ming-loyalist for quite some time
Also, Taiping Rebellion in the 19th century
Genuinely can't comprehend how utterly retarded this post is.
Rood
because they are servile qing slaves, thats why
a quick google wouldve been enough but you chose to post on 4channel to get humiliated
Why self hate? Germans barely and reluctantly did colonize
thats full of shit, they invaded neighboring nations
>Why self hate?
No self hate. The TEUTON is not E*ropean, he is the enemy of the E*ropean
B-but Manchus are SHANDONGERS
So that includes every civilization. Woah!
Dont think they could conquered the world, they had lots of troubles with neighbors
When did Europeans ever not have troubles with neighbors?
Manchus got SHANDONGED so hard, they are now a bunch of WE WUZ QINGZ SHANDONGERS
1. there were rebllions and remnants of Ming loyalists, in South China and Taiwan (Koxinga)
2. The distinction between "Han" Chinese and "Manchu" is not one of race but of nationality/political leaning.
"Manchu" was a newly coined term by the leader of the Jurchen tribes Nurhaci to unite the different tribes to the north of Ming China. The different ethnicities within this new "Manchu" nationality included Jurchens, Chinese, Mongols, Koreans, Evenks, etc.
3. Han Chinese made up 75% of this new "Manchu" nationality, while the original Jurchens were only about 10% of this new nationality. This was because of the sheer amount of defectors from Ming China to the new Manchu nation
4. The Qing dynasty was doing well until the 19th century, which was when the second biggest rebellion against the Qing happened (Taiping Rebellion)
t. Hans
Thanks man didn't know I was a German
i'll just leave this here.
>pol
Han defectors are what allowed the Manchu to take power, and in return the Manchu men let the Han defectors fuck to their women and kill their language/culture.
Jow Forums brainlets will ignore this post.
What was the biggest rebellion?
Okay, so the genes of people that didn't originally speak Chinese but looked exactly like them were introduced into the much larger gene pool and they continued speaking Chinese. And today the Jurchen or Manchu languages are essentially extinct.
What is your point exactly?
manchus got han'd pretty badly. Hong Taiji employed a lot of han in his court and didn't really change much from the ming system of governing.
What was the eight banners system?
taiping rebellion is the biggest rebellion in Qing history, but 2nd after An lushan rebellion in chinese history.
For other revolts under Qing:
en.wikipedia.org
en.wikipedia.org
eight banners are just the manchu military division they used, it included alot of mongols, hans, and koreans too.
xinhai revolution, the establishment of the republic of china
see also, the marriage system that married jurchen women to han men who defected further served to kill off the manchu culture. sad.
division of the manchu clans into eight different "banners". hence the alternative name for manchu as the "bannermen"
>Be China
>If Taiwan wants to be independent, we'll fucking kill them
I read that there were positions or stuff that only people in the banner system and not Hans could do, is that true?
If anything killed the manchu culture is that the manchu emperors teachers were mostly han chinese, so they grew up with chinese history and culture. Just look at all the emperor's name its all chinese name but not manchu name.
Nurhaci based one's ethnicity on langague, bascially if you spoke manchu you will be considered as manchu. The bannerman only became "identical" to manchu after Qianlong's reform.
Kingdom of Heaven best China
Jesusbro best leader
bannerman =/= manchus
like the earlier posts the Eightbanners consisted a large portion of mongol, han, and koreans.
Were there positions only availble to manchus? prob there is. But most of the civil positions were selected from the Imperial examination which the Qing court continued.
once again, there were Han ethnics in the bannermen. If you mean differences in rights between the bannermen and the rest of the Chinese civilians, then yes, there were restrictions unless they joined the Qing government as a scholar bureaucrat or whatever. As far as I know the restrictions were marriage related (intermarriage allowed among bannermen) and government pensions for Qing officials. Not sure for the rest.
Manchus were huge sinoboos
based. hakka ubermensch hong xiuquan is eternal god emperor of china
most of the foreign ethnicity who conquered china got assimilated by the han, even during the yuan dynasty by Toqto'a en.wikipedia.org
Even Tang dynasty's founder was half Xianbei,
>The bannerman only became "identical" to manchu after Qianlong's reform.
What did he do?
li yuans (founder of tang) grandfather, li hu, served as a a general in western wei. his son was a duke and married a xianbei woman. so yes founder of tang was half chinese and xianbei
before Qianlong the ethnicity in the Eight Banners were not based on blood/ ancestry. Qianlong reclassified the han bannerman, and he viewed the han bannerman as traitors, instead he uplifted the Ming loyalists and glorified them as martyrs
Why? If the Ming were conquered by the Qing?
Europeans are barbaric scum, desu.
because qianlong was based and sino-pilled. He also asserted that qing is a chinese dynasty and china is multi-ethnic.
Kublai Khan himself was a sinoboo. The barbarians are just able to recognize superior civilization.
kek