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why did turks think it was a good idea to get christian kids to raise them as elite soldiers and make them part of the upper crust of society?
they seriously had no foresight
Not really
T*rks are white worshippers irl
Turks hated themselves
It's even written in history that Turks hated the term "Turks" since it refers ro a group of Turkish peasants and poor farmers
>It's even written in history that Turks hated the term "Turks" since it refers ro a group of Turkish peasants and poor farmers
that was later on though near the end of of the empire where they preferred to use the term "ottoman" instead of "turk"
cosmopolitan cunts i guess
Blocks your path.
Too blobby here, but 1914 Ottoman borders are pretty based. Would be better than modern day ME for sure
of course, best allies
Except that is completely untrue, Jannisaries made up 10% of the army and many administrators were also persians or levantines
No we hate wh*Tes
Calling the Ottoman Sultan a turk was considered a insult because you didn't call him by his titles you fucking idiot, imagine walking up to a french king and calling him frenchie, of course it is a insult
>raise christian kids as soldiers
>sent them in frontlines
>they die for your ISLAMIC empire like cucks while their mothers and sisters getting raped by turkish tax collectors back in home
>mfw
and then they are better soldiers than you
and the christian and jewish merchants are richer than you
and your empire simply collapses on itself, because the muslim subhumans spent their years of education memorizing the koran and other dumb shit activities, while christians learned science, modern mathematics and other stem goodness to kick your ass
They were cucks
OUT BREED
Which one is the real map?
Seems like this one is territory + raids
How do we get this version more popular than the western propaganda map?
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no because i have white skin
One of my favorite empires
t. shitskin
Yes, I'm italian
Nah, I'm good.
I do : (
If it is +raids then Italy should be all green
t. sud tirol subhuman
i do. i even study ottoman history
that's a meme
not completely correct. the hatred toward the term turkish is largely overstated in the literature
>and the christian and jewish merchants are richer than you
trade is not the only economic activity
>and then they are better soldiers than you
elite infantry was composed exclusively of muslims
that map is bullshit
>i even study ottoman history
Based and redpilled!
Arab dick loving faggot
Seething wh*toid
>t. sud tirol subhuman
No, I'm Italian and since I'm italian I'm not white
Just spam it on /his/, this map is excellent for baiting and making angry wannabe crusader virgins mad
Based
Ottomans only raided sicily and southern italy as far as I'm aware, Mehmed II. wanted to raid Rome itself but he got assassinated
unironically yes
we shouldve helped turks destroy vienna
Mhhh no? I'm pretty sure they arrived everywhere, and in fact another nap highlighted that?
Third link in google says that you even raided Friuli deremilitari.org
I'm pretty unaware of the barbary corsair raids, all I know that they raided so much that a white slave could be bought for a onion in algiers. It is very well possible that the Ottoman raided most of the med coast as well as everything beyond that, the map itself is inaccurate anyways and only created to cause massive butthurt (which it did)
why don't they all just form a huge nation? It's been done before. I don't know anything about Islam but didn't muhammad say there would be 12 caliphs or something? Why not get another caliph and join all the muslim countries into one huge one like the european union or whatever? They're all majority sunni anyway
Are there any saying about Turks in your language?
In Italian there is
"Mamma li turchi!" (Mommy, the Turks!!) To indicate fear
"Prendere il turco per i baffi" (To catch the turk by the mustache) That means that someone is very lucky
Haha Iceland??
"Cabeza de turco" (Turk's head) means scapegoat.
It was worth the long journey to capture some icelandic cuties. I wonder Why they went all the way up there tho it must have taken ages
"getürket" literally turked means faked
700 years and counting of eternal yuropoor butthurt
Tbh yes, except for Greece and Maghreb, because Maghreb belong to us and Greece should be independent. The other countries were better under the Turkish joug.
I don't get the hype they were never a threat, their Sultan was so hungry for Nordic cock he housed our King and when our King refused to cum in his mouth he tried to kill him. Naturally he failed and then Carolus Rex rode through all of Europe in like 5 days, swinging his giant cock behind him.
>On 1 February, the Ottoman forces, commanded by the Serasker of Bender, attacked the camp. Together with some 40 soldiers, Charles XII stood against many hundreds of Turks
>The Life Guard Axel Erik Roos in particular distinguished himself during the skirmish and accounts tell that he saved the king's life three times during the day.
>The king himself killed at least one Ottoman soldier with his sword in hand-to-hand combat when he and Roos came under attack by 3 Ottomans. During parts of the fighting, Charles was also actively sniping with a carbine against the assaulting enemy from a window in his sleeping quarters, positioned in the building where the Swedes had taken up their defense. The fighting lasted for over 7 hours and the Ottomans eventually used both artillery and fire arrows when the initial assaults were beaten back; the later method proved to be effective.
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unironically yes because it was a containment for all the poorest regions
>they were never a threat
If Vienna had fallen most of Germany would be muslim now
>ii-i-i-i-f Vienna had fallen
and you couldn't even defeat the germans and poleshits or whoever you were fighting. how sad is that? even we did that
The Ottomans defeated them many times faggot Vienna was the final castle to conquer and the Capital of the HRE, the soldiers were just completely exhausted due to famine, disease and one of the harshest winters in recorded history
That's just stupid, they would've sacked the city to piss off afterwards, they would never be able to hold Vienna under any circumstances and it really wouldn't be worth the hassle even if they could. Humiliating the Habsburgs was the way to go, not keeping Vienna
I don't know my BLACK friend...seems like you failed where we succeeded. I guess we are the true BLACK BVLLS after all.
This is why Carolus Rex is your most based king
Vienna had all of the wealth of the habsburgs stored, without it nobody could oppose the Ottomans. Maybe France but the french had no intention to save the inbreds
Ottomans should have colonised Australia.
The Ottomans in general should have participated in colonization but they had zero interest in it
Us plus france could have beaten you if somehow we became friends and opposed to you.
America was too op for you lads to handle.
For that sweet sweet boipucci, unironically.
>used both artillery and fire arrows
Second Ottoman Empire when?
Eh, I don't think that other European nations would've let the Ottomans just take Vienna for themselves, but even if that wouldn't be the case, it wouldn't have worked out to keep the city imo. They already had problems maintaining authority in their northern Balkan territories, biting off Vienna aswell without being able to properly supply would be a bite too big to digest, even if other nations would react more chilled than I'd expect. The second siege was their last possibility of dealing with the Habsburgs before Ottomans fell off too far behind, they were sleeping on way too many things to properly take the city. I just hope the Poles learned their lesson, never trust an A*strian
To properly HOLD the city*
Why would you miss literal trash?
>led by an islamic dutch pirate
fucking lmao
>After the death of Suleiman the Magnificent in 1566, his son Selim II ordered that ships be sent to Aceh.[3] A number of soldiers, gunsmiths and engineers were sent in an Ottoman fleet, together with ample supplies of weapons and ammunition.[1] A first fleet was sent, consisting of 15 galleys equipped with artillery. It had to be diverted to fight an uprising in Yemen.[3][5] Only two ships eventually arrived in 1566–67, but numerous other fleets and shipments would follow.[1] The first expedition was led by Kurtoğlu Hızır Reis. The Acehnese paid for the shipments in pearls, diamonds and rubies.[6] In 1568, the Acehnese, besieged Malacca, although the Ottomans do not seem to have participated directly.[3] It seems however that the Ottomans were able to supply cannoneers for the campaign, but were unable to provide more due to the ongoing invasion of Cyprus and an uprising in Aden.
>The Ottomans taught the Acehnese how to forge their own cannon, some of which reached considerable size. The craft of making such weapons had spread throughout the Maritime Southeast Asia. Famous cannons were made in Makassar, Mataram, Java, Minangkabau, Melaka and Brunei. Many of these rare artillery pieces were captured by the European colonialists; the bells of several Dutch churches in Aceh were made from melted Ottoman weapons. Some of these bells still carry the Ottoman crest which were originally on the barrels.[1] By the beginning of the 17th century, Aceh boasted about 1200 medium-sized bronze cannons, and about 800 other weapons such as breech-loading swivel guns and arquebuses
pic related, big ass ottoman cannon found in southeast asian jungle during the dutch invasion of aceh.
Based and redpilled.
Sick man of Europe
WE
>The Sultanate of Rûm...The name Rûm was a synonym for Greek, as it remains in modern Turkish, although it derives from the Arabic name for Romans, الرُّومُ ar-Rūm, itself a loan from Greek Ῥωμαῖοι, "Romans"; ie. citizens superordinately to Latin-speakers.[10]
The Ottomans housed your pathetic King after he destroyed his Empire trying to reach Moscow and he acted like a complete dickhead to the Sultan, he even refused to leave when asked politely so they had to force him out
Swedes are the worst guests
Rum isn't a synonym for greek pathetic mongol
More mongol than you mehmet
Ayy bro I came back with a better map
This will 100% anger crusader virgins
Based and Redpilled, praise Tengri
Nice bait
"Mamma li Turchi" literally means "Maim the Turks" in Sicilian dialect
they also generated poor regions. e.g. Arab culture was thriving with output and generating of wealth before the Ottomans.
Great to see the "disputed" part of the map. Historical accuracy is always appreciated.
>Jannisaries made up 10% of the army
there was over 100,000 janissairies at some point, they were way more than 10% of the army