Please ban commieblocks

please ban commieblocks

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What even happened to commieblocks after the Eastern block fell?
Did they just get sold off? Or are they still government owned?

People that lived there own the apartment.
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They got some fancy facade colour.

In Poland the apartments in commieblocks were privatized - they were sold to the dwellers for a fraction of their actual value.

This is a main reason why it's impossible to demolish a commieblock here in practice. You'd have to get consent from 100-200 dwellers and buy their apartments, one person opposing it would be enough to stop the demolition and it's obvious there's always at least one person who doesn't agree to sell his flat

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Would you rather have this instead?

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yeah, houses are much better - more space, your own yard (even if small), less neighbors around you, no shared space no one pays attention to

>i hate don't like commie blocks

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Are you fucking retarded? I'd rather live in a commieblock than a fucking slum. Both cost the same to make and at least commieblocks can be touched. A slum will always look shit regardless and are arguably structurally instable

visit eastern Europe first and then we'll talk

Because developers can do whatever they want since cities have no interest in zoning laws, they just want money from land to promise some more bullshit so gullable p*lacks vote for them

>like ban abortions
dude, abortions literally caused negative birthrates in european russia
you should do it too, fuck vaginiggers and their "rights"

>i hate commieblocks, I hate cheap living space, I hate dealing with neighbours but I love having to drive everywhere

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Because its associated with ex-USSR. But it was French guy who invented them

Abortions have nothing with birthrates. Growing of GDP has.

Are all eastern polacks that ignorant? If russia is more liberal on some issues than us then something has gone horribly wrong.
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Yes, what a great idea. Let's ban affordable housing and turn our cities into museums with people sleeping on porches. You dumb fucking piece of shit.

Yeah, he totally w-
HOLY SHIT I WAS KIDDING. Don't tell me you're serious.

i'm from western poland you tard

>Unironically you have to wait years to get a commyblok apartment.
Social housing doesn't solve the problem that underlies the reason why social housing exists in the first place.

>why social housing exists in the first place.
Because making living space for poor people is not profitable?

>he doesn't like cars

Then don't make them

It's profitable in isolation. If you build a large complex (a "commieblock") and rent them out, you more than earn back your investment over time. The problem is that housing is scarce and if others are willing to pay rent, you'd have to be stupid to not offer your residence to the highest bidder. The solution is to simply build more houses (which the free market will always encourage as long as there's profit to be made), but various government regulations (I'm willing to bet my ass they're only in place because an elite of housing barons "sponsors" these regulations) makes it needlessly difficult to build more houses.

Making a select group of houses arbitrarily cheaper does not change the fact that there's a shortage. Letting contractors and housing corporations build more freely and pocket more of their profits does.

A commyblock takes money to build and people that actually have a proper amount of money will not want to live in one. It also has maintenance cost etc.

In general you earn way less on a commy block then you earn on making housing for well off people. It's even more profitable to risk your house being unbought as long as other good housing is bought then you earn on poor people housing.

Muh regulations is nonsense. The ever declining wages here make it impossible to adjust commyblock rents to inflation.

You just can't make money of poor people housing in a declining economy that we are. Maybe that's better in the Netherlands but it surely isn't here. Not even in the best parts here (Bavaria, Baden-Würtemberg that are both significantly richer than the Netherlands).

Muh regulations, it's the state fault. REEEEEE capitalism works.

It does work as long as you can gas worthless people insteed of being kinda into humanist values trying to give them rights and see them as being worth something ust because they are human what causes social housing.

>A commyblock takes money to build
That is correct. Everything does.

>and people that actually have a proper amount of money will not want to live in one
If they have better alternatives available they won't. If they don't... there's a reason why even a shitty one bedroom apartment in Amsterdam costs you an arm and a leg. That's because even people who would be able to afford a much larger house (in the countryside) are willing to settle for something smaller if it's in Amsterdam.

>It also has maintenance cost etc.
No shit.

>In general you earn way less on a commy block then you earn on making housing for well off people
Obviously, per capita you earn a lot less. But if we look at scale, there's more than enough money to be made from the lower and middle classes. Look at automobiles for example: the brands that generate the most revenue are ordinary city cars like Volkswagen, Toyota and Peugeot. Not luxury brands. Because there aren't a lot of people who can afford these luxury brands, even if they turn over insane profits per unit.

>Muh regulations is nonsense
Yes, because dead weight cost is fiction. Of course, we all know that city planning does not limit how many buildings can be built, where they can be built or how high they can be built at all. Right? All nonsense.

>The ever declining wages here make it impossible to adjust commyblock rents to inflation.
Of course that's also a problem, but increasing wages alone won't solve the problem. All that changes is that you now have the same number of people with more money competing for the same (too low) number of houses (in big cities).

>Muh regulations, it's the state fault. REEEEEE capitalism works.
It does though. Adding in a REEEE doesn't change that.

>It does work as long as you can gas worthless people
This is Jow Forums so I'm not even sure if you're being satirical or not.

I really like my commieblock though.

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Looks nice actually.

>the brands that generate the most revenue are ordinary city cars like Volkswagen, Toyota and Peugeot. Not luxury brands. Because there aren't a lot of people who can afford these luxury brands, even if they turn over insane profits per unit.
No. There is a reason why Porsche owns VW and not vice versa.

The cheap people cars are not even VW but rather Dacia, Skoda or Seat.

It's not regulations. Has nothing to do with regulations. Cheap living space is even subsidized here yet still nobody but charity institusions (like churches) want to build those.

It doesn't work. They ust earn more on people with cash. On Investment in stocks on whatever. Housing for poor people was and is a thing of philantropy.

For a commieblock it sure is.
Here's a better quality image.
Lived here for 6 years and I really like it.

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What was the size of apartments? I know you have really small ones in such blocks.

Commieblocks can actually be a quite nice addition to a city-scape, as long as you don't go full brutalist.

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Well there is 704 apartments, each either a 2,3 or 4 room.
The apartments sizes are the following

2 rooms - 68 square meters
3 rooms - 89 square meters
4 rooms - 111 square meters

I live in a 2 room apartment.

Ok that's good

Yep, not too small and not too big.
It's a really well planned out building actually. The stairs are wide and the elevators big.

Compared to my earlier place (a 4 story "commieblock") it's pure luxury.
That place was loud, dirty and the people rude.
Here people actually say high and the place is kept clean and fresh.

Commieblocks are for the middle class too, those new ones like in OP's picture even for the upper middle class

What are prices for rent/buying?

>No. There is a reason why Porsche owns VW and not vice versa.
It's a bit more complicated than that. The Porsche family is majority shareholder in Volkswagen Group, which owns the Porsche brand. That nonwithstanding, even withing Volkswagen Group the brand that generates the most revenue is (obviously) Volkswagen by a large margin.
statista.com/statistics/275870/revenue-of-volkswagen-group-by-brand/
It's also one of the best selling brands out there, matched only by other affordable brands. Luxury cars are great per unit, not so great on a large scale.

>The cheap people cars are not even VW
Proofs?

>It's not regulations. Has nothing to do with regulations.
Explain to me how regulations dictating how much may be built, where may be built, how high may be built et cetera do not impact the number of houses available for renting.

>Cheap living space is even subsidized here yet still nobody but charity institusions (like churches) want to build those.
Of course not. IF it's a given that there's a housing shortage, you'd have to be stupid to not rent them to the highest bidder. Either that, or the subsidies need to be stupidly high (beating the whole point).

>It doesn't work.
What doesn't work? Because social housing clearly doesn't. It doesn't solve the problem, it just makes the problem more bareable for a lucky few.

I agree that design philosophy matters more than the 'type' of building.

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Well, nice things comes with a price so it's pretty expensive.
My 2 room apartment cost me around 197 000 Euro. But you can rent an apartment for between 650-1200 Euro per month, depending on the contract.
It's actually quite hard to get a place here since it is very popular, that's why I bought mine instead of renting. If I do move someday I will make a profit.

The fuck you're doing, Gustaf? Dont make this filthy mongoloid come live in your country.

>even withing Volkswagen Group the brand that generates the most revenue is (obviously) Volkswagen by a large margin.
Actually it's Audi. Surely Volkswagen by absolute numbers but it's also 10 times bigger than Audi. Still Audi makes much more per work hour in Profit and runs way more stable. People wouldn't invest into Volkswagen without the Audi brand.

You don't understand our car industry, Volkswagen sells many cars but is only on a few subjects really profitable. It actually never been profitable for a very long time and until today never put back the costs the state once put into it.

Mine was 20k euro (40sqm 4 floors commieblock). Sure it's dumb to compare our countries. But briks costs the same everywhere.

>But briks costs the same everywhere
Truth. Man, if we had Russian prices on property I would be happy. But such is life.
Only place in Sweden where you can buy a home for 20k Euro is either in Lapland or in some small town/village in the middle of nowhere.

Commieblocks seem real comfy, or at least the somewhat modern ones.

wish we had some here

The biggest problem with blocks is when they turn into ghetto districts that lack infrastructure, greenery, and attract suburban retards.

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>Explain to me how regulations dictating
Near to all of this regulations here are the result of rich home owners being afraid poor people could f´devalue their property.

There is no way a crowded nation can have affordable living space for everyone. Simply no way. For the sole porpuse of people earn less or nothing on it.

I live in pic related, do you guys have such areas down there? Genuinely curious because every time I see pics from NZ I can't find any.

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Commieblocks were privatized here.

Fuck no. I want to buy land near the city and build my own house.

>Actually it's Audi.
In total revenue? I'm willing to believe per work hour or per unit, but in total revenue?

>Near to all of this regulations here are the result of rich home owners being afraid poor people could f´devalue their property.
I agree, but that doesn't disprove anything I said. It only provides a motive.

>Well, nice things comes with a price so it's pretty expensive
>pretty expensive
>197 000 Euro

>tfw swedes have nice apartments for 30-40% of the price here and call it pretty expensive while having the nearly same wages

Wait, Germany is that expensive? Damn.