"The easier the better"

"The easier the better"

Don't even try to deny FACTS.

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That's no fun, even native speakers should struggle

Where is German?

Efficiency over fun

Facts don't care about your feelings

that depends on "to whom" it is more or less easy to learn
and as to "which is better", I don't know

The only thing that matters is how efficiently you can communicate inside your local dialect/speech. Also, it's a FACT that intimidating people with a dialect they don't understand (or even better, any colloquial form that a foreigner learning the language doesn't understand) trumps their FEELINGS

might be correct on a business context, but my god, having simple language as your mother tongue is horrible when we're talking about poetry and fiction.
even the most beautiful prose in english become extremely bland, even cringy, when it got translated

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so why are people always moaning about our grammar and orthography

German is usually put in medium.

That could be apply at any language, and if it that language is harder with much more reason.
I agree, but we live under rigid capitalism so business is far more important than poetry or literature.

I wanna learn German, but I have no motivation to do so. I hate this feeling

Even toddlers can speak Finnish, what's the issue? Are foreigners just dumb?

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Korean is fucking easy

I'm pretty sure learning German will be easier for a nordic language then english, I'm sure if they remade the chart with norweign as the base, German would be easy.

why would anyone want to learn arabic besides religious reasons

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but then how would i convert my monolingual normie friends into jaded cunts if i cant convince them to read miserable western literature?

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No reason to dissuade people. If they want to keep their mind open and learn new thing without that much of benefit, it's up to them.

dumb smelly Australian piping up here

I'm only trying to help him, Pommy.

It's absolutely easier. We have much of the same grammar in some dialects and in nynorsk. Also many words in Norwegian and German are the somewhat alike.

kek, clearly a ch*nkoid self hater. kys

True, but then again, English and German share a lot of similarities as well, so I doubt the difference between learning German as a scandi or as an Anglo would be too drastic. Probably still favorable for you tho.

its a known fact that chinks and jews love turn any topics into racism, mostly false flagging against themselves, no matter how unrelated was the topics.

but Norwegian has much more in common with English than German so why would it be easier, you are feeding someone false hopes and lies, you may think it is harmless but it isn't.

Actually toddlers have an easier time learning a language rather than teenagers or adults, thanks to the way that they their brains work.

Then correct me from the start?

>He isn't fluent in English and Mandarin

nah cba tbqh

Modern greek is much easier than french

All Norwegians know English. That and other commonalities in the grammar makes it easier for us.

to become based and black

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It's based on english native speakers.

i think your country needed it the most considering your police constant failure to detect terrorist's plans

>I'm sure if they remade the chart with norweign as the base, German would be easy.
Not sure about that. German is only difficult to english speakers because of the genders and cases. Dutch is basically german without the cases and is considered easy, even less related languages like norwegian and danish are considered easy. English is more closely related to german than norwegian is, and norwegian doesn't have a case system and the genders don't really match so it's just as difficult.

>"arabic"
>"language"

Not hard as ultraslavic

ching chong cheng

As a speaker of English(one of the most efficient languages at pure information transfer) of the Australian variety, this is an absolute fucking banger of a post, cunt

ive done a bit of French and German on duo lingo and French was so much easier. Even word order and grammar so far.

Why do I see people bitch about how hard french is then

French has a lot of weird exceptions to its rules which can make it annoying to learn, but it's no worse than English

>French has a lot of weird exceptions to its rules
every language has exceptions. French is no different but doesn't have an extreme language of exceptions

Based.

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>native english speaker
>"different alphabet = more difficult language"
well duh

>thanks to the way that they their brains work

it has more to do with the fact that native speakers are willing to talk to them 24/7. Young children do have an advantage as far as phoneme aquisition is concerned, but other than that they take just as long. Remember it took you ~5 years before you spoke coherently.

Really? That's quite surprising to me, as a German English felt far more similar to me than French. But maybe it goes only one way and isn't mutual.

>Japanese is hard because muh memory
Literally no different from remembering words.

>Young children do have an advantage as far as phoneme aquisition is concerned
That's a pretty big advantage.
>it has more to do with the fact that native speakers are willing to talk to them 24/7
That's just a situation, nothing intrinsical of any human's stage.

>24 weeks

Still can't write or speak French properly after a few years since I'm bon here IMAO.

Also arrabic is very easy to learn, this graphic is shit.

>That's just a situation, nothing intrinsical of any human's stage.
that's indeed my point

>that's indeed my point
Agree then. But I was referring about intrinsic skills of toddlers.

>But I was referring about intrinsic skills of toddlers.
and I was trying to make the point that those are not really attested / greatly exagerated

>Japanese harder than Finnish

YEAH RIGHT

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Where is Czech on this?

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it's a foreign grammar + three foreign alphabets
The difficulty of finnish grammar is also exagerated.

with polish obviously

fug

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>those are not really attested / greatly exagerated
Why, for example if we put a toddler and an adult speaking in a 24/7 foreign speaker environment, the adult needs the WILL of learn the language and the toddler learn it without even trying. And even then the adult would have little reminiscence of his native language wich probably will affect his attitudes in his new lenguage, while the toddler it's nothing more than an empty vessel.

How often do y'all actually use your non-native language in real life?

>Russian
>Medium
Japanese is really easier than russian. That's a stupid fact list.

Everyday.
Using more English than Norwegian desu.

they assign a lot of weight to foreign writing systems

Also native english speakers are brainlets. That's why they can't handle languages like arabic.

>How often do y'all actually use your non-native language in real life?
Never, I use it just to shitpost.

I took me 2 days to learn hiragana and katagana dude.

Whereas Finnish grammar is going to take me several years.

Entirely dependant on distance from your own language you dumb western europoor.

Learning finnish is usel-

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Amazing post.

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>Whereas Finnish grammar is going to take me several years.
it's literally just affixes and they're pretty regular.

>I took me 2 days to learn hiragana and katagana dude.
the logographic one obviously takes much longer

I know English and I'm studying French. I've studied Russian and Mandarin and have learnt some Portuguese from my frequent holidays to Brazil. Also, I spent a year in Hong Kong, so I speak a little Cantonese