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>Your country
>Is Mr Maduro a legitimate president of Venezuela?

>Russia
>No. He is an illegitimate one. The real president of Venezuela is Juan Guaidó

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>loses his refineries to Brazil and USA

Nothing personnel Russia. We just hate you, that's all.

i wonder who is behind this post...

Bolsonaro is a corrupted, incompetent idiot. He will be impeached in a couple of years.

Hillary confirmed for president

yes

USA
No, the only true president of Venezuela will gib USA oil for cheap

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i agree with you my russian friend

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yes, why not? he was elected democratically

Maduro is the legitimate president right now.

unless Venezuelans want to revolt and install a new leader.

Philippines.
No. But only because I want to see a war happening in Venezuela. Reading up on Middle Eastern and African conflicts is getting boring. Time for some excitement South of the US border 2bh.

Morocco
Whatever upsets the great satan

You wish. Keep backing up Maduro and no oil it is going to rest for you there when we invade this crap.

US
legally yes but fuck no and I'm glad he's not being recognized as one anymore. I'm not a hugely political person but I am just constantly feeling for my bros in Venezuela and hoping they can get away from that motherfucker

Your country already declared that Juan is the legitimate president.

>Individual governments including Brazil, Canada, Chile, Colombia, Paraguay, Puerto Rico and the United States have also recognized Guaidó as the acting president of Venezuela.

We're going to make sure that happens.

than what the fuck is the point of this thread if we're just going with the official stances of nations? go read the fucking news if you don't want individual opinions.

>unless Venezuelans want to revolt and install a new leader.
do you even read the news? they've wanted this for years now

What's your point? Are you only allowed to have Bolso approved opinions now?

You are free to be wrong, I'm just pointing it out.

Bolsonaro's word is final.

if that is the case, why is Maduro in power at this moment in control of the army and institutions? the people haven't revolted yet.

you're really retarded you know that? if this thread was only asking for the official stances of our respective countries, what would be the point of asking on a anonymous board peoples opinions? get bent dude.

I remember hearing that about Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya etc.

>the people haven't revolted yet.
At least try educating yourself before trying to state anything, there's a country-wide protest in Venezuela right now with several people dead.

Are you trusting western medias blindly?

read riots has been going on for years with dozens of killed civilians by the national forces every time that happens, just now there are 4 deaths, maduro is in power by force and support of commies, not by legitimacy

>Brazil, Canada, Chile, Colombia, Paraguay, Puerto Rico and the United States
So that would be the states and its satellite cunts. k got it

a protest is not a revolt you fucking try-hard. you think the Womens March means the USA is under the threat of revolution? Maduro is currently in control of the army and institutions. he is president. if everybody else wants to recognize a different guy as their president that's fine, just don't be surprised if they don't actually control anything in the country.

I just hope there won't be another civil war in an oil-rich country. What if it causes shortages in global oil supply?

nah, im venezuelan i know my shit, wetern media never reports the true inside of the country

You know there are right wing gangs and paramilitary forces assassinating officials and union leaders in Venezuela right?

there at almost 32 million people in Venezuela. if they wanted revolution, they have the ability to. a couple of thousand people who protest don't represent the entirety of the country. i don't give a shit if he is a good or bad leader, the undisputed answer however is, he is the current president and he has control of the country. that could change over time, but that's not what it is now. fuck you guys are retarded.

Venezuela barely exports any oil anymore lol

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>innocent and democratically elected president who doesn't want to open his country for McDonald's

YEAH OVERTHROW EM

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Statues of Chavez and Maduro have been destroyed all over the country, the protests are not peaceful and there's a partial military revolt, PLEASE stop posting and learn what you are trying to talk about first.
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>innocent and democratically elected

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You're very dumb unfortunately

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>THIS TIME MADRUMPF IS FINISHED
yeah ok, just like "animal" assad huh?

>america is evil!
>[insert name of evil dictator] is misunderstood!

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that is besides the fucking point you idiot. is Maduro in control of the army? yes. is Maduro in control of the institutions of government, yes. does he currently hold the title as president of Venezuela, yes. Is he alive, yes. this is about legitimacy, not politics that you like. he's in control, he's the president. someone else can take his place if there is a revolt, but none are successful yet.

except Juan Guaido has the ability to do this
he is the president of the parliament and the article 233 of the national constitution enables him to do this
maduro was only recognized by mexico and bolivia on his recent electoral "victory"

>hundreds of thousands refugees leaving the country to other LA nations
>millions starving to death in the country

>i-i-i-it's everything fine in Venezuela! Muh evil USA!!!!

Straw man

>twitter.com/TVVnoticias/status/1088102085076402176

right, one protest represents the entire will of a country. is it normal for latin americans to be so .... narrow viewed?

>starving to death

HOLY FUCK, you are an absolute brainlet. Juan has the ability to do that job? great, SO DO I, SO DO YOU! do you fucking have the job? NO.

>that is besides the fucking point you idiot.
No it isn't, first you claimed that there was no protest at all and now you're moving the goalpost to "yeah but it's not protesty enough, the military has bigger guns so it doesn't count as a civil revolt".
And you are wrong about Maduro having control of the institutions of the government, Juan Guaidó declared himself president with support from the National Assembly, Maduro pretty much only has the army.
Did you even know who Juan is before I told you? Why do you consider yourself able to discuss this matter that you have zero knowledge on?

Yes, he's in power because he's a DICTATOR not president.

that's the capital of the country, and there are currently more protests across the country, read a bit more about it

This. Humanitarian disaster, famine and rampant poverty in Venezuela right now are worse than in Iraq and Afghanistan during the wars. It is obvious that bloodthirsty tyrant and a murder Maduro must go.
I for one support Donald Trump and other leaders of the free world in their decision to recognise the leader of Venezuelan opposition as a leader of the country.

Why are leaf caviar commies so fucking stupid and delusional? You are a fucking blight upon the world and actively promote this kind of humanitarian disaster.

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On a side note, these people protest too. Have you seen those pictures in your media? Here, no.
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based commie

>bloodthirsty tyrant and a murder Maduro
I just view him as an incompetent douchebag, not a bloodthirsty murderer, where did that come from?

You are the one strawmanning for political reasons. I'm not even left wing.

some wars can be quick. not all wars are the sams

Countries that now recognize Venezuela opposition leader Juan Guaido as interim president:

- USA
- Canada
- Brazil
- Paraguay
- Colombia
- Peru
- Ecuador
- Costa Rica
- Argentina

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Being incompetent doesn't mean he won't kill people to stay in power

I told you to stop posting retard.

>Is Mr Maduro a legitimate president of Venezuela?
Maybe, we should wait to see who win first, lot's of potential monis there, or hot refugges who cares

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the protests are not limited to venezuela only, any venezuelan across the world is in protest right now
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Beyzed

you fucking retard. i never claimed there were no protests. i claimed protests are not revolution. if there was open revolt, people would be defying the government and attempting a coup. the entire country would be ousting the government they don't want, that's revolution. a protest is not revolution.

great, he's declared himself president, now let's see if he can hold onto his self-professed title. if he can, he becomes the legitimate president of Venezuela, if he doesn't then he's dead. simply notion right? but right now, guess who has control of the country? pro-tip, it's not juan. because if it were juan, maduro wouldn't in the presidents official residency.

capital is not the entire country you absolute brainlet.

my faith in the ability of south americans to think critically is severely damaged. you guys are literally macaco tier.

colombians should definitively know better, holy shit

Yeah but he's mostly incompetent, not murderous??? Maybe fucking up the economy so bad that people have to flee the fucking country because there's literally no food is murderous, tho

Vuvuzela is under embargo because nationalizing stuff is not cool.

just because you have power doesn't mean you're legitimate

The moment Germany say something we do the same, to one side or the other

dude, it's my my fault you're retarded. Maduro is the legitimate president for now. great you don't like him, that's okay, i don't care either way. but until we see revolution and Maduro ousted from power, he is the president of Venezuela. deal with it.

And that means what? How many of them are dissidents and should i only focus on them and not on Maduro voters too. The ones who put Maduro into power by popular vote.

do you have reading impairment you fucking leaf?
caracas is the most populated city in the country and i said there are more protests across the country, OBVIOUSLY the 32M of venezuelans wont be protesting all at once in the same day you absolute retard, Maduro is so fucking done

>popular vote
lol

Bitch shut the fuck up we have actually murderous presidents, Maduro is just dumb and corrupt and probably has some people who murder for him but we have had a literal murderer as president for years now lmao

>USA goes to Venezuela to "help"
>Oil deposits are emptied
>Venezuela keeps being a third world shithole

Wow really based and redpilled!
Where's Russia and China? They should have turned USA into a radiactive wasteland by now

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Your judiciary imprisoned Lula on the flimsiest of evidence.

Just like he was done two years ago or six months ago lmao

>popular vote
OH NO NO NO NO

The only mean to keep power as incompetent dictator is through fear. And so you kidnap/kill people. Not on Saddam level with gassing entire villages, but still.

>The ones who put Maduro into power by popular vote.
you do realize he has never won any elections in fair play right? you was there when maduro's local mafia was scaring voters away from votation centers? was it when he destroyed electoral boxes to even his numbers out?
read less CNN bro

oh my god, you're also mathematically challenged. caracas is 2million people, even if all of them don't want maduro, that's around 6.25% of the population. if the people wanted maduro gone, they could have voted them out when they had the chance. hey, you gyus can still revolt though. but that hasn't happened yet has it?

fucking hell.

lol again

You know nothing about our country

>if there was open revolt, people would be defying the government and attempting a coup
That's exactly what is happening as has already been told to you, the National Assembly doesn't recognize Maduro and even the army's support is shaky with internal protests, the government's suppression power also seems a lot weaker than it was during the 2017 protests.
I doubt the revolt will lead to a full-on coup though, I think a lot more external pressure will be needed, Trump sanctioning their oil would be instant death for Maduro.

>its a "third worlder thinks china is going to save them" post

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in some cases yes and in some case no. in this case yes. the legitimate rulers of countries are exclusively dependent on their ability to hold onto power.

According to what media reports and what is their political inclination?

I hope USA, Brazil and other latin American cunts absolutely DESTROY venezuela. I cant wait for millions of venezuelan refugees

>he doesn't know about maduro local militia killing people at sigh in any anti-government protest
kek

Russia and China hate your shithole much more than the US does.

great, have you guys managed to oust maduro and put him in prison while installing your own leader? no? than keep trying until you get it done. till then, he's the legitimate president. others can disagree but he's still in control of, again i have to say it, all the institutions and the army.

he has his power through an illegitimate election

Ah yes those "flimsy" 22 pieces of evidence.
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I also hope chemical weapons are used. Destroying a people generations to come.

>he's the legitimate president
Dictator*

you say its illegitimate election he says it legitimate. who is to say either way? the matter of fact is he is in control though.

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semantics won't really win you an argument. call him dictator if you want. i'll keep calling him the legitimate ruler. makes no fucking difference.

Based. Get fucked socialists.

fuck off ivan.