What do Russians think about China?

But isn't it true that Russia and China have competing interests in western Asia? Russia is the primary power in the region but China wants to expand its influence west due to American and Japanese influence in the east

All the Russians I met when spent time in Russia couldn’t stand the Chinese tourists. I assume they feel this way about China in general but idk

you and china were fucking eachother in the ass from the 1920s-60s.

then you broke up and US and china started fucking eachother in the ass from the 1970s-2010s.
then you started dating China again from 2000, while US and China were prolapsing eachother

now we are breaking up with the China and you are left with a big gaping hole and China claiming your ass.

Putin is cucking Russia into being a raw materials supplier for China, it's definitely a master-slave relationship.

>then you broke up and US and china started fucking eachother in the ass from the 1970s-2010s.

China stopped being a US "ally" in 1989.

>It's complicated. Something like temporary allies, but there is a big distrust under layer of official cooperation.
>Still, Chinise is much more negotiable then americans and that's why we working with them.

This was true of the Sino-Soviet "alliance" in the 50s and it was true of the Sino-US "alliance" in the 70s-80s.

seems okay for the next few decades. Russia is focused on their western front while china is interested in the SEA region. they will get along until one of them compete for influence in Japan or Europe. unlikely for either of those though.

You're right though Sino-Russian relations have a higher degree of mistrust because of past history and that they share a border while there's thousands of miles of ocean separating us from China. The other thing is that Russia is not a democratic country and autocracies are far more likely to cause a war.

>being friends with russniggers

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China was a big ally in the 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s. They were given MFN status by Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Obama...

They were given entry into WTO in 2001. 50 million breadwinning US jobs were transferred to them

Up until 1 month ago, the deep state continued to praise China as an ally, but now they are turning on Xi and targeting him personally, ignoring the fact that China has always been anti-West and is only using the West to get all the industries and tech.... but globalists act as if its just the leadership needs to be changed and the Chinese people are pro-American

China is the centerpiece of America's globalism.

China enabled and financed US invasion of Iraq, Africa, Middle East etc... US and China partnered to topple govts worldwide and install globalism.

US could not have conducted its worldwide nation building without China funding and sponsoring US imperialist adventures.

The trillion dollar cost of war was financed by China buying US bonds to support the wars in Asia and Africa. China never went against these wars since it was the main benefactor and supporter of these globalist wars.

It is of no surprise that China gained entire control of Iraqi oil.
The real winner of the Iraq war was China.

Additionally, China's role in global capitalism destroyed the rights of workers worldwide, something that the USSR fought to create and protect.

China is a main threat to socialism, communism.

globalists such a soros/neocons treat the chinese as specific to a few leaders, entirely ignoring the systemic, historic, cultural fundamentalism against the West.

but the soros's would lead goyim to believe that its just Xi Jiping

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>China is a main threat to socialism, communism.

maybe overseas man, everytime i see into the chinese economy i see they are fundamentally marxists

You guys really need to secure Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, and Kyrgyzstan.
Some sort of anti-american/NATO and also anti-China alliance needs to be made.

Marxists enforce workers rights, 30hr work week, 6 week vacations, free quality healthcare, pension at 50, shelter for all.

Marxists abolish tax, exploitation, mortgages, fees, insurance, banks, usury, loans, private healthcare/education, talmud.

China is a dystopian capitalist hellscape.

OH NO NO NO

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>t.eurasiantiger

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>tfw every Russian I've seen unironically look like him

nothing of value was lost

Looks like the f*Nn needs to learn its place again.

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good pic

Mental illness is so sad

>thread about Russia and China
Mostly mutt flags sperging
Everytime

Kind of ok. But too many Chinese tourists recently.

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China was never a US ally, at best it is a trading partner and Chinese geopolitical aims in East Asia are quite at odds with US ones.

Get off of Jow Forums Zhirinovsky.

>But isn't it true that Russia and China have competing interests in western Asia?
Yes they both want control of the Central Asian -stans.

>a mutt's opinion
Very exciting.

Just imaging Russia having all that land, and China having so many people...

Not our problem, nobody forces them to breed like rabbits, so if you care that much about these people why don't you just open borders for them.

>they're best friends
We just don't want destroy each other, so have to be careful.

And then you woke up and realized that it's 90% a barren waste incapable of supporting any life but reindeer.

>american hopeful wet dreams of a sino-russian conflict itt
Yikes

I've always been under the impression that Russia and China are mostly in an enemy-of-my-enemy situation. They're not friends, but they both share a common opponent/obstacle/competitor in the form of the US. They both have little to gain and a lot to lose by working against each other, and their interests frequently align since oftentimes improving each others position weakens their mutual foes.

On top of that a tacit agreement not to step in each others pie means a more secure border which benefits both countries as it allows them to focus all their resources on Eastern Europe/SEA instead of having to deal with enemies on two fronts.

Why would anyone but a nutcase want a war that could potentially go nuclear, kill millions, and create massive floods of refugees?

>I've always been under the impression that Russia and China are mostly in an enemy-of-my-enemy situation. They're not friends, but they both share a common opponent/obstacle/competitor in the form of the US. They both have little to gain and a lot to lose by working against each other, and their interests frequently align since oftentimes improving each others position weakens their mutual foes.

The thing you must understand is that China doesn't really have "allies", they see themselves as the Middle Kingdom and all other nations exist to pay homage to them.

Because w*sterners are egomaniacal psychopaths that want to watch the world burn.

t. Mongol rape baby

Yes and Putin wants to get back to the glory days when Russia owned half of Europe. I'm sure that neither side has any illusions that this is anything more than an alliance of convenience, and that eventually they will have to fight each other. But for the moment both are happy to leave the other more or less alone and focus on expanding in other directions. And I think that as long as America remains a superpower and opposes them in those regions it will be in Russia and China's best interests to remain on somewhat friendly terms with each other.

>Putin wants to get back to the glory days when Russia owned half of Europe.
>Americans are unironically taught this
big YIKES

>Putin wants to get back to the glory days when Russia owned half of Europe
Yes. He wants this vey much and that's why he didn't take the whole Ukraine when he had perfect chance.

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Whatever Putin's goals are it's clear he sees America as a large threat to them. I'll admit that I don't know a lot about Russia but wouldn't you say they consider America some kind of rival? Cause that's certainly what it looks like from this end.

there's a lot of legit feeling of unease in the far east and whatever CNN says Russia does keep lots of weapopns in the east. But, Russians don't think they're as much a threat as the West is.

but generally feeling is more good than bad, aside from conspiracy nuts and people who are generally unhappy with everything, people don't see it as a threat. basically even if they're advanced and there's a lot of them, they can't fight, are effiminate but are nice people if you teach them to behave.

here have this shitty comedy trailer, summarizes some of the opinion
youtube.com/watch?v=HfRsjyC6W3s

>it's clear he sees America as a large threat to them
Well yes but there are reasons for it. Mainly in the form of NATO surrounding Russia. The further NATO spread, the worse his relations with the West got. He tried to be friendly but he just got tired of being dismissed at one point and said fuck it. Not that I'm justifying anything and obviously it's a very crude breakdown of international relations and geopolitics but that's pretty much how he feels.

basically the feeling here is US took advantage and betrayed trust after 1991, so basically Russia's left with no choice against a stronger power it can't trust to keep its word or have good will towards Russia

if you're interested, this is a good place to begin to understand Russian viewpoint, it's based on documents and shit

nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early
nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2018-03-16/nato-expansion-what-yeltsin-heard

this (including me)

Might I also add this video to his list
youtube.com/watch?v=8X7Ng75e5gQ
Even though the guy is a bit of a kike he presents the Russian viewpoint kind of well also the stuff he says about the cold war and its comparison to modern relations is pretty important
nice

I feel as if Russian and American citizens have more in common than we think. A lot of Russia posters seem chill, it is just our governments that hate eachother

Thanks for the perspective, and the links. I'll have to take a look at them tomorrow when I'm not half asleep.

>Majority of Americans have to led to believe they're best friends
Majority of Americans are also spics/nigs

Off topic but I remember an old screencap from I wanna say Jow Forums about Russians and Americans teaming up to colonize the moon by combining our unique brands of crazy. It was a pretty good ride, I'll have to see if I can track it down.

>I feel as if Russian and American citizens have more in common than we think.
We do for sure.
A lot of cultural stuff and mentality is very similar.

some things are similar
we're both big countries that are culturally europe but not europe. long distances, many different climate zones, still some frontier lands in the north, melting pot etc

as to governments hating each other, it's basically mccains and zyuganovs wanting to create another cold war for their grandchildren before they fuck off and die, because they used to love the cold war. kgbgru and ciansa can't stop themselves from jizzing into their pants at the thought, and i actually think the feeling is stronger in us than in russia with all this 'election hack' crazy shit

In my opinion, American military industry is probably a driving force in tensions with Russia. The more tension, the more arms the military will buy

that and spy agencies money too

NSA especially wants to vindicate itself after Snowden and prove it's useful with stunning revelations that Russia has spies and they spy

One thing I've noticed is that the whole Russia "hype" in the US has basically become a political chip and talking point in two party politics to try to score political capital. They started acting like worsening relations with a country like Russia and throwing accusations around (even if it's mostly at eachother) is just something to throw around lightly. And I dont just mean the politicians, although they're certainly part of it. I also mean media, celebrities and people like that only making it worse.
Not that we dont have that here but since we dont really have anyone that competes with the major party on a serious level the government uses that kind of rhetoric fairly sparingly, since there isnt as much to be gained from it.
Anyway that's just my perception.

Neither are the US and other Western nations, your own statesmen stated the US has no friends only interests.

Sure you might say all elites are allies out of convenience which is nothing wrong and very honest but you guys lie and lie and lie, you would never allow any country in Nato to surpass you as soon as they try you knock them down like you did Japan.

Nato is just the US personal playpen of useful idiots.

>What do Russians think about China?
Our rightful colonial clay since late XIX century.