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Watchu reading, nerds?
Komi-san is pretty chill.
what would 出来め mean here
it use "め"
it's ぬ though
奴
乙
Can I go from 0 to understanding an anime movie in 5 months? Movie in question is Shinkai's upcoming one
>Can I go from 0 to understanding an anime movie in 5 months?
no, you'll understand some easy words or phrases here and there, but that's about it
lol no
7" 7" 7" 7" 7" 7" 7" 7" 7" 7" 7" 7"
What is your definition of easy? I already understand phrases like: tadaima, okaeri, arigatou, daijoubu, onegai, etc
why not?
If you sneaked into Shinkai's house and made a copy of the script so you can specifically learn all those words, yes
>Can I go from 0 to understanding an anime movie in 5 months?
not even if you listen to japanese 24 hours a day
Is Japanese that hard to learn?
>I already understand phrases like: tadaima, okaeri, arigatou, daijoubu, onegai, etc
so does every weeb, that doesn't mean anything
my definition of easy doesn't matter, the point is in 5 months you are nowhere near understanding anything really, regardless of the medium or content
if you want to learn japanese anyway, good, it might give you some motivation and you're at the right place to learn,
but if you really just want to understand some stupid movie then don't even bother with starting
yes, it's about 4-5 times harder than french or spanish or something
Cant see that happening in 5 months. Even with 8+ hours a day studying its just not enough time.
It takes months just to learn the basics.
yes but even if you did an easy language you probably wouldn't understand the spoken language after 5 months unless you studied perfectly
>why not?
Because you're grossly underestimating the speed of language acquisition and overestimating your current vocab, despite lying and saying you were starting at zero.
The spoken language isn't particularly difficult, especially in anime
yes it is
for you
What are people saying when they say something that sounds like, "wa de wa de wa"?
我々は
俺は朝中の勉強するために起きたけどまだ全然勉強しない。今ここに七時四十五分が、意思を持っていない。
can you even understand ツチノコ in kemono friends
that puts in god status in my mind
Never watched it, can you post a clip or something
nevermind, while searching for a clip of her screaming etc to webm I could understand everything she is saying for some reason.
Why cant I do that when I actually want to
5 months can sentence easy
試しlife experienc
yesterday night cant sleep, mother snore loud
昨日夜、母に高らかを鼾です。
寝たいない。
this
honestly this
How much daily study is necessary? I'm going to aim for minimum 1 hour per day of active study and then occasionally other stuff like anime, films etc outside that time
you double the time spent in anki reading/listening
well thats what I do
帰る途中で雨が降り始めてびしょ濡れになちゃった
I should've spent my time learning German or French. 5-6 years of learning here and I can't speak fluently yet. I guess I'm n3-n2. The bad thing is that I'm just graduated in Japanese language and Literature but nothing of fluency yet. One cannot simply learn this language.
>5-6 years of learning here and I can't speak fluently yet
is there even any resources in the guide for speaking? Why complain about that when its not even taught
I think I'm seeing a pattern emerging about people who actually reach some kind of fluency with this language. They usually spend at least 2 years practicing/studying religiously up front. That means dedicating all the time they possibly can to doing stuff in the language. Afterwards they usually tone down with the studying part, but keep up the immersion (which is then the easy part in my opinion).
But it's that initial time investment which makes or breaks westerners who try to learn Japanese. It should be certainly possible to do less in a day and still get to a certain level, but I think it's a problem of time frame. No one wants to do a study regimen for 6 fucking years, let's be honest, especially when progress is slow.
It's just that trying to get a foot through the door when you're not just relying on traditional classroom material that drives you up the wall at first.
四の五の言うな
Btw am I the only once who's missing the native posters?
After ポーランド人の消失 we are going to miss out on the resident hamster poster too.
No. Notice as soon at the mentally ill pole disappeared the Australian that spergs out at people for speaking Japanese also disappeared? Almost like it was one mentally ill person using multiple proxies.
Can someone redpill a humblr newfag on は vs.が?
When do you use one vs. the other?
Mark the subject with は and the topic with が
私はドイツ人があまり好きじゃないです
I am the subject and my dislike of Germans is the topic.
Fuck I got that mixed up. Disregard.
許してください
I'm never sure if Australians are shitposting or for real.
ごめんね
頭がよくない
Yea but the hamster poster was one of the good guys if I remember correctly.
常に間違いするのに飽きている
この投稿も間違いがいっぱいかも
自分のつらい存在を終わりたい
Of course, I like him a lot. He is very helpful and positive. Also I'm sure he's not gone, no reason to flip out over someone not showing up each day at the same time on a Nepalese language learning board.
when people say だろな right after someone makes a statement is it like "probably"?
I have a question
Do Japanese actually think they say を different from お? Because in nearly every song, they sing を differently.
Do they semantically perceive it differently?
ですよねぇ
>Because in nearly every song, they sing を differently
This is just because it sounds better/more poetic or stylistic/not any particular reason
>'semantically'
Nothing to do with semantics.
を being pronounce オ is just the way Japanese developed in speech over time because オ is faster to say. Some older people from more eastern/western areas still pronounce it as ヲ
Isn't it the other way around?
youtube.com
in pic related it's somewhere between ヲ and オ
Don't forget to breath!
>still using anki 2.0
dekinai
*breathe
>not building Anki nightly from source to stay on top of your study optimization and can adjust everything to fit your own progression.
I don't even know what the "Experimental V2 Scheduler" is for
Makes the scheduling better, also makes decks with subdecks actually usable (provided that you use them)
That sentence would actually translate to "Germans don't really like me" correct?
I read the guide but I still don't understand what script to learn. Also is it easy to learn all the different characters or is it hard?
So I guess I should be using it after all?
>also makes decks with subdecks actually usable (provided that you use them)
How so? Does it let me get new cards from the subdeck independently of the main deck?
you learn words and grammar. The 'script' is kinda irrelevant, its just what they use
I don't know what you mean with script, as for writing systems you'll have to learn all 3. For Grammar guides you can choose your own poison, just try them. Most people seem to like Tae Kim though.
Depends on you and your definition of hard.
>all characters
You'll be pleasantly surprised
Write the hiragana pronunciation on paper.
ちゅうい
then, write the Kanji form.
注意
Repeat the process for 20 seconds or longer.
Get used to writing hiragana and pronunciation.
Doesn't matter if you forget it the next 10 minutes lol
^Don't listen to him
anki.tenderapp.com
Oh nothing to major after all
*too
Gotta love it when you can remember readings with H-artist names
その、終えたいというべきんじゃないの?
learning very import words from the japanese wiki article about japan like
脱亜入欧
幕末
南蛮貿易
Only anaerobic organisms can learn japanese.
reading thru tae kim's grammar guide atm
should i be trying to learn the vocabulary used in the guide as i read it or wait until i have a half decent understanding of the grammar and start learning vocab with anki?
I got Genki I but I don't have a CD player. Is there anywhere I can snag the mp3s? Couldn't find them in the Cornucopia.
>その、終えたいというべき"な"んじゃないの?
And it is supposed to be "終わらせたい".
Eventually my friend had me watch this, the whole series in one night, and I admit I enjoyed the show.
I am telling you I couldn't get the 5% of the lines, even as a native, so you'd not feel any incompetence for listening for that.
OP song was GOOD, but as for the 口上 at the beginning, I'd have liked it more if it'd been "死んでも夢を叶えたい。いいえ、死んでも夢は叶うもの", as it'd sound as if it's a general rule. However the pun of "脈がなくても突き進む" made me chuckle.
The 0号 was NICE indeed. And I wish the creator had made 純子 more 昭和 so that she gave off the taste of that era. However, it's a nice show after all.
大学や専門学校との提携も日本全国に広がっており、推薦枠を数多く確保しています。
Does this mean the 推薦枠 is a high number, or they have many different 推薦枠 (with various school)
>大学や専門学校との提携も日本全国に広がっており、推薦枠を数多く確保しています。
We have a large affiliation with many uni and vocational schools throughout the country thereof we hold a large quota of recommendations to them.
Therefore, the latter, in large numbers.
ありがとう!
>昭和
Neato.
大和に生れた男として、あの時代に対する概念そしていろいろな想を聞かせてください。いい勉強になるかもしれんね。
Yes, google
KLAでは、地震・火災・台風など災害発生時に留学生の安全を守るため、普段より情報の把握、避難訓練の実施や緊急連絡体制の整備など、防災対策に努めています。
Are these measures already in place, or are they in the process of implementing them? 普段より makes it sound like a future thing
Wait, does 普段より here mean "more than usual," or does it mean "regularly?" There's a similar construct later, "日常より安全対策点検を行っています"
"普段より" means "on a regular basis" here and is interchangeable with "普段から"
("普段より" may be a bit confusing because it can mean "more than usual", too)
That clears it up! Thanks!
Started on Flying Witch volume 2. Already learned quite a few useless words.
道端
占い師
ほくろ
びしょ濡れ
>"日常より
is also "regularly"
Moreover, 普段より,日常より,日頃より, and 平素より are roughly the same.
classic australian shitpost
Combine those 4 words into a sentence for me.
sorry I don't believe in production
I loosely tried following en.wikipedia.org
I would have given up if I had to do 4 hours of Anki per day. Even with lapses and relearling I have 170-190 per day on 15 new cards a day.
It's an escape from actually learning Japanese :~)
彼は寝ちゃってるかもね。
自分は外国の方に紹介できるほど「昭和」のことをよく知らないし、実際あんまりピンとこないです…。彼は純子のどの辺に物足りなさを感じたのだろう?
顔にほくろがある占い師は道端に立っていた
それから急に雨が降り始めてびしょ濡れになちゃった
I actually already start to dislike the Core Deck a bit but I keep going because it doesn't take too long after all.