Can we all agree that Politically, this is now Eastern Europe?

V4 countries are eastern

Balkans are eastern too

This is the true map of europe, anyone who tries to disagree is a massive fag

Switzerland is western Europe tho, along with Germany and Austria.
Central Europe is a polish concept.

V4 is just Jow Forums popular thing

Stop associating yourself with us

Yeah maybe the western part needs some changes, I'd include half germany and you. Other are central europe

your analbanian whore mother is a concept

Not at all. Central European is synonymous with German-speaking or German-dominated Europe. It's one of the great ironies of history that Poland and many other now Eastern European states suddenly rediscovered their cultural ties to Austria and Germany after they themselves forcibly rejected their German heritage and expelled the ethnic Germans from the territories. It's how Scottish nationalists claim Gaelic heritage while most of them are basically English settlers that displaces the original Gaelic people. It's LARPing. No reputable historian considers Poland or the Czech Republic as Central European here. What else is central European then? Kaliningrad? Lithuania or even Latvia? There is no consistent definition that would exclude the latter territories and include the former.

you are eastern

youtube.com/watch?v=4ztOV2wrrkY

> suddenly rediscovered their cultural ties to Austria and Germany

we never did, lol, we still maintain everything you can find in western Poland was always Polish, only occupied by Germans for some time

our centraleuropeanness has nothing to do with German culture, just like being western European has nothing to do with French culture (tell the Dutch they need to reveal their French heritage to claim that they're western European lol)

Not him but the whole Central concept was indeed a Prussian expansionist concept, planning to eventually Germanise you (they themselves were Germanised Balto-Slavs which makes it doubly funny)

>It's one of the great ironies of history that Poland and many other now Eastern European states suddenly rediscovered their cultural ties to Austria and Germany after they themselves forcibly rejected their German heritage and expelled the ethnic Germans from the territories
austist detected

the concept of western Europe or southern Europe was also invented by someone, it's not that God divided Europe like that. Other nations just adopted this term and assigned themselves to a certain group.

If there is southern Europe that combines several completely different nations with different cultures, languages, history etc. that is all about climate and "mentality", why can't there be central Europe, even if Germanic and Slavic countries are different from each other?

fixed it 4 u

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Portugal is western europe

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Meh, I guess it makes no sense to split us from the Dutch, and you from Belaruse/Ukraine, though the respective similarities are much bigger

the problem is that Dutch people don't really want to be put in the same group with Germans they consider inferior to themselves

>Dutch people don't really want to be put in the same group with Germans they consider inferior to themselves
Why though

Maybe in 1970 or so when the humiliating war memories were still somewhat fresher, but now? IIRC they rated us highest positively on some recent Eurobarometer, like 95%

I want to cuddle with Portugal

Because Germans destroyed their country in WW2, also in the Netherlands Germany is seen as a poorly maintained, dirty country with bad urban planning where most of people live in disgusting blocks of flats, and an average German is a beer-addicted bald and fat neonazi

This is the real map of EVROPA

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Poland is eastern europe.Period

Slavic east
Germanic north
Med south
West is a mix

>Germans destroyed their country in WW2
Got it. I only knew about Rotterdam bombardment, need to read up on this subject.

>Portugal
Kek

>West is a mix

sure, only the west can be mixed because some butthurt Portuguese said it

a lot of eastern European countries are already richer than Poortugal

I don't even know anymore. Finland doesn't fit anywhere. It's not really Eastern but I wouldn't consider it Nordic in the same way as the other countries either. It should just be labeled as Finland

>He fell for the Central Europe meme.

Nah, we're a north sea nation and Germans consider themselves rather central European. Moreover, we're a lot closer to London and Paris geographically than Berlin. Germans are friendly people overall

in the land of mordor
at the fires of mount maskva
the dark lord putin forged in secret a master race
a race so foul and evil that it would have the power to dominate all life

this except Greece that's western imo. You can say Poland etc are Central Europe to make them happy but anything behind that line is just different types of slav

>israel
kek

>this except Greece that's western imo

>orthodox
>poor as a typical eastern european country
>dirty, messy, corrupt
>turkish influence for 1000 years

>but nooo, it's totally western because it was on the American side of the Iron Curtain for 40 years out of its 3000 year old history when it was always connected with the Orient/East

What makes you think the terminologies have anything to do with wealth?
And your living standards aill never be better than ours

>What makes you think the terminologies have anything to do with wealth?

What makes you think the terminology established during the Cold War will remain unchanged forever?

>And your living standards aill never be better than ours

Weather is not everything. We can buy more for our salaries, we're catching up infrastructurally, in 30 years V4 will be indistinguishable from Germany, and Portugal will always look like Portugal.

>The birth of democracy and the center of the eastern roman empire
>It's eastern europe lmao

A big line is drawn culturally,linguistically and ethnically between germany

>The birth of democracy

What does it have to do with the west? The west just adopted democracy. It's like saying China is western because they invented paper western Europe used.

> the center of the eastern roman empire

With a distinct culture that was never influenced by Latin culture but the other way around - "occupied" Greeks influenced Romans. Greece was a separate world within the Roman Empire and didn't have much to do with Rome.

I find this too autistic, Portugal is the western most country of Europe. This is the true map.

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They had a very distinct recent political history from Germany being politically and culturally dominated by Western-European powers like France, Spain and even the United Kingdom. No one really puts them into the same camp as us. Don't know what that Polish drone is on about.

>No one really puts them into the same camp as us.

--> > it makes no sense to split us from the Dutch

Why does Poland not like being in eastern europe?

Even East Germany is much better off than Portugal

Because Eastern Europe = Russia

no one wants to be associated with Russia

muh oppressors

>3/4
also hello my fellow southwest European brother

I went to Croacia and i was super suprised at how med it is, i expected it to be half slavic half med, but the med vibe was way stronger. You should start speaking Latin and we could replace Romania with Croacia and have a proper Latin brotherhood

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The term "Eastern Europe" is associated with shithole countries and Russia. Two things nobody wants to be associated with.

And yet they still are part of the Eastern European country group within the United Nations.

This is wrong. Only some retards and pro-european bullshit nutjobs have butthurt about that.

Even in Poland we refer to our region as "Eastern Europe"

>I've been to the Croatian seaside
>I've been to Croatia

>Even in Poland we refer to our region as "Eastern Europe"

no, we don't

Yes we do.

We had our own romance language - Dalmatian that went extinct during late 19 century I think and in my area there still exists a specific dialect of Venetian
Keep in mind that Croatia is part med, part central European and part Balkan culture wise

Poles and co will always be regarded as Eastern Europeans by the Western cilieation even if they hate it.

Do you count Zagreb as interior? Because it felt more latin than northern France

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Well it is associated with Russia. We don't really like it but we accept it, only ultra progressive retards who want to be more western than west is pushing the central european meme, mainly on reddit but there is one or two retards like that here.

so Prague must feel even more Latin then

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There is more that unites us than divides us fellow european

nope, we won't

>but we accept it,

no, we don't

unless we ask for money in Brussels, then we're poor Eastern Europe the west should support

Its OK frate, we actually have a saying in Romanian:
"Nu mor caii cand vor cainii"

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FACT

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How about this?

Southern Europe as civilized but swarthy people: Romans + some blacked Slavs

Northern Europe as blonde light eyed pagans: Vikings and Slavs

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>No reputable historian considers Poland or the Czech Republic as Central European here.
No reputable historians believes in such arbitrary concepts that serve to promote the narrative of superior geopolitical units in the first place

I always thought Romania and Poland were very clearly Eastern Europe. They look like two massive shitholes anyway.

I like to think that Poland is Poland and the rest is stinky.

For me it's simple
Yellow and purple stuff = Western
Green stuff = Eastern

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my impression

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That's a load of bullshit. Central Europe existed for far longer than the Iron Curtain.

Slovenia and Czech Republic should both be to the left of the line.

Greece is Europe because of Ancient Greece and its similarity to Italy / Spain. But Poland, Czech Republic, Hungary and Slovenia are almost in the cool kids club imo

This is Russia

How is Ukraine politically in the same category as Russia and Belarus?

World races

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>Hungary
>Western EU
Lawl.

Lmao

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Why Ireland but not Belgium

>Latin America
>Roman
I don't think anyone believes this.

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How about you go fuck yourself absolute slavshit,just because we share the same semitic religion doesn't mean I respect you faggot,now go get conquered by germany,austria and russia

>east of italy
so romania bulgaria fyrom albania greece and the three russias

that's literally vienna style architecture

The first non-MS Paint map

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>Greece is Europe because of Ancient Greece

First of all, no one ever said Greece is not Europe. It is. Just eastern.

And I can't understand what ancient Greece had in common with western Europe. Greeks didn't travel there, except for several brave explorers like Pytheas. They didn't know and care about nations that lived in western Europe. It's western Europeans who took certain ideas from Greece, just like they took paper from China or numbers from India but it doesn't make China or India part of western Europe ffs.

>its similarity to Italy / Spain

There's nothing similar except for warm climate and economic hardships (still, in Greece it's a completely different level than in Italy and Spain). It's just like similarities between Spain and Morocco.

Pardon me, I forgot Poortugal

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Just a name, would Latin sound better?

Belgium is not Germanic. And Ireland is at least white

>Belgium is not Germanic.
THIS. 100% agree with you. They shouldn't have betrayed us in 1830.