Be me

>things that never happened

What language do you code in? Was it hard to learn at home?

Have you github or something?

good post

Good luck learning anything about chemistry, physics or biology without access to laboratories and significant processing power.

>Which Languages?
I'm doing my job mainly in Java and C++. I also use python, Vbscript(mainly for legacy projects), JavaScript and a few others

>Was it difficult to learn at home
I started coding when I was 14 so I already have a few years of experience and acquired knowledge. I didn't have to learn that much to acquire the job I have.

To get to more established companies like Facebook I need to have much better coding skills however. I've been doing online courses for that And I do admit it is difficult to find the will power sometimes but I mostly can get through it.

>He wants me to doxx myself on Jow Forums by posting my personal github
No

Just to clarify, my Job is only Java and C++. I don't use python, Vbscript or JavaScript for my job but I do know those languages and use them for personal projects

Thanks for you answer, May I ask if online certifications like Udemy or Edx are good points in interview in your opinion?

The IT industry has fairly intelligent people who care more about what you can do than what it says on your papers. If you can explain why you're qualified for the job then you'll get it, unless someone who is better applied for it of course. In Norway at least we have reached a point where it's very hard to find and hire new people because all the good ones are already employed. They won't turn down a competent guy because of formalities like your degree.

No, I mean what did you write in your resume when you looked for yours first job, here it's preferable that you have github with your personal projects.

check out universally acclaimed certificates like oracle's java certificate, it's a good starting point

I just want to get a help desk job and see where it goes from there. I don't really care about ever making a ton of money, I'm okay with living modestly but comfortably. Should I go to school or just get certificates on my own?

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Lmao what kind of loser knows how to program in multiple languages before 18?

You are a Code monkey user, not a software engineer

Thanks!

>What kind of loser nerd can program before 18?
>He says unironically while posting on Jow Forums

>be a codemonkey all your life topping out at 120k in even the biggest firms
>when you could be a living, breathing human being in a normie job, even as a marketing manager getting 150k while not being in your cramped workspace all day.

God damn. Codemonkeys and engineers are like oompa loompas to Willy wonka.

>but didn't pass their technical interview
Does that ring a bell? It is dead end if you don't have a degree.

The context was CS and yes CS degrees are only certificates and hold no value.

>I just want to get a help desk job and see where it goes from there.
That's what I did and it was a useful experience to have when applying for my current job as IT consultant. I was absolutely miserable while I worked there, and the payoff is that my current job is awesome and doesn't make me want to kill myself.

I mean I literally messed up an algorithm I was writing on their white board. I didn't pass all their questions and they denied me solely because they couldn't check a box on a form.

Most people struggle with basic python shit m8. They just don't get it.

*It's not like I passed all their questions with flying colors and they denied me solely because they couldn't check a box on a form
That's what I meant

what are things, in detail, that you did as a help desk

What was so bad about it?

>He unironically thinks he's going to make 150k as a business/Marketer person
Lol. I know tons of people like you. A business/marketing degree is the most common degree, even more common than Liberal Arts.

150k is what extremely in-demand Stanford grads with years of experience make while working as Software Engineers at Google. Most Marketers or Business people make 40k-70k max with a Degree. 150k as a Business person is full on delusional unless you are literally the Manager of a huge team(this takes a full degree plus 7+ years of Experience and not a guarantee) or a something very close to a CEO.

>120k max as a Software Engineer
Google and Facebook pay 130k a year plus 100k cash upfront as a sign on bonus + stock options for junior Engineers. Senior Engineers make 200-250k a year. Startups have been competing for Talent with Bigger companies and have been known to pay 300k+ for especially talented devs.

>What did you do for your first job.
I of course fleshed out my Github and personal website. I also went to quite a few Hackathons and networked with people in my local tech scene.

Thank you

That's nice. Google and Facebook are the top 0.01% of all companies. You can find any medium sized one in New York and you'll get 90k base right out of Columbia. Stick to writing code, monkey.

>A degree more common than Political Science that literally everybody has is going to guarantee me 150K+ a year I swear
Go back to filling out spreadsheets, business hack. Literally all the normies I know went into Business or Arts. People going into Comp sci was unheard of. I personally know somebody who graduated with a degree in Business from the top Uni in Canada and is struggling to make 60k a year.

Sit by a desk with a headset and answer the phone. Customer explains the issue they have and I attempt to give them a solution. I helped people with computers, tablets, smartphones, smartwatches and other types of devices.
Eventually I was promoted to senior advisor and they talk to the most difficult customers or take the most challenging cases. But after getting to the senior department it's pretty much a dead end, so I quickly applied for something better. The job is not just technical skills, but 50% soft skills (talking to people, almost like being a sales person in the sense that you have to make sure you get a good survey)

You forgot to mention that the only way to do this is the web dev route

Honestly that's not that impressive considering I went to a no name public school for accounting and started at 65

>micromanagement (for example you can't exceed 7 minutes per day when you take bathroom breaks, it was down to that level)
>solving mostly the same issues over and over again, lack of personal development after working there for a while
>everything is measured in KPIs, as an example management would give me shit if I spent more than a minute in the period between ending a call and going back to available status (and they were counting seconds too, not minutes)
>I often had to take the blame for things that aren't my fault (both management and customers will give you blame for things that others did)
>shitty pay
>working saturdays and sundays
>managers and quality coaches will listen to recordings of your calls and give you shit for all kinds of things. Example: I didn't assure the customer I was going to help him/her at the beginning of the conversation. That's a failed evalution

I don't work in web dev

What company did you work for?

>muh 10k more a year for 10x the effort

lmao learn the 80/20 principle

Then you're lying

A call center company that Apple hires to outsource their support.
When I was hired I didn't know what project I would be working on, because it's a secret. I accepted the job, signed a work contract and an NDA, and THEN they told me that I was going to represent fucking AppleCare. It's Apple who creates all the procedures, KPIs and other standards that they have to measure their employees in, or else they lose the contract with Apple. Apple has a very American mentality where they treat their underpaid wageslaves like actual slaves.

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>getting a compeng degree
>every course wants you to learn a different language for whatever they want you to do
>end up having a surface level knowledge of python, java, assembly, C, VHDL, Verilog, WireShark and SQL without any true mastery
>4th year courses expect in-depth knowledge despite prerequisites not teaching jack shit
god I love university, I hope I'm not fucked immediately upon graduation.

top kuk

>He doesn't know about mobile dev
>He doesn't know about game dev

>compeng degree
>fucked

you're better off than 99% of this website and at least career-wise the majority of Canadians.
Stop whining and do your fucking homework.

Mobile shit is web dev, it's all the same technologies
You're actually memeing if you're serious about game dev

Why did you work there in the first place?

th year courses expect in-depth knowledge despite prerequisites not teaching jack shit
This is because they assume that you're actually interesting in what you've decided to devote your professional life to and will expand your knowledge of the field beyond the mere course work that's required of you. Shocking!

Literally every class in my uni used java as their high level language.

>Java and Obj-C/Swift are exactly the same as JavaScript and HTML!

I found that annoying as well, but I realised that it helps you in discovering your true passion for postgrad. It's good to have some knowledge about everything.

I would love so much to be able to work at such a company and just tell the people to fuck themselves, I either do it how I like it or I'm gone.
Currently I work as a consultant and I got a project in a city that is 1 hour away. Guess if the company would rather pay for a hotel or have me commuting 2 hours every single day? Yeah, right. They will get what they deserve I swear on me mum.

jokes on you, I'm whining while doing my homework

real talk though, I really enjoy VHDL and hardware languages, I'm just griping that they kind of just drop you in and expect you to swim when it comes to stuff like C. A lot of my courses are Electrical Engineering, and while they got an education first year on C programming, we didnt. I still managed to teach myself enough since I already knew CPU12 assembler, but the pass rate wasn't too good for computer eng. students

im not failing my first semester in CS, how the fuck can you fail basic algebra and calc?

Is there ANY proofs you actually have a job? You must have something

why is it so hard for you to believe that someone works as a regular programmer? is having a normal job something totally unimaginable and incomprehensible for you?

Yes

I was unemployed for 2 months after my old job didn't have any work for me anymore. I wasn't picky about jobs and wanted to get a foot into the IT industry. I did not have enough skills to get a job as IT consultant or dev etc. at the time. I knew I needed a short term job where I could grind some xp so to speak that I could put on my CV. It was always my plan to move on to greener pastures after a while.
That job did teach my some useful things like systematic troubleshooting methods and other best practice that I make use of today.

On this website there are many 12 year old children that roleplay their dads or their future dreams.

Only a fool would believe the works of fiction on this site

That was /b/'s tagline like 15 years ago. How old are you, exactly?

and you think that someone would just come here, and tell lies on the internet?

Unironically 21

There were plenty of self-taught programmers working at the IT-company I had my internship at. Even the devs with an education didn't necessarily have it in CS. I have two friends from uni working as devs. One of them has a MSc in Mechanical Engineering, the other one has one in Industrial management.

this, is a job like job, nothing special

How old are YOU?

>either do it how I like it or I'm gone.
I got to say that to some customers when they were clearly in the wrong and refused to accept the solution I gave them. Specially after I got promoted to senior advisor. When a noob on tier 1 support is unable to gain agreement he can escalate the call to me and I talk to the customer. It's the equivelant of "let me talk to your boss".

I come on here and lie all the time

why don't you follow teachings of jesus

In finland most drop out because getting masters in CS is damn near impossible and get employed but pelple with masters get almost double wage