Alright, I really am going to get serious on this ML algorithm so I can't hardcore monitor this thread and this is probably my last post today. Cya guys
>set a goal of per week continous production by end of 2017 >june 2018 have to meet it for a single week
Does it really even matter with TSLA stock anymore?
Chase Gray
Simply wall street is fun for finding random small caps, that's how I found CARV
Noah Parker
In other news, Elon Musk is partying in Spain right now.
Luis Rivera
lol of course not
not yet. but it will. bond traders always sniff this shit out. and they smell something for sure judging by their latest yield blowout
dudes gonna ENRON all his shareholders an most of his employees, and no one will see it coming because of his status as a cultural icon lol i cant wait
Tyler Rodriguez
I think they've made it 5k/week. Tesla is not exactly a fragile company, they're wayyyy away from going under
So guys, The bond and tbill selloff at the end of friday was rather odd. I think it was China starting some shit. Monday is going to be a volatile trading day I think.
Banks are still in a correction and possibly a bear market soon, tech is ready to pop. Trump is doing his best to shitpost headfakes to keep the eyes off of what might be actually happening. By introducing random chaos into the markets we let off some overly stupid bull heads and weak hands from over pumping or overselling the market. We are in for a choppy Q3 as I think earnings will be weak this quarter.
If Trump can pull off a sector rotation before the markets tank he will have literally saved the economy for now.... We need to fed to tighten without popping the bubble to stop all of this bullshit going on in the economy right now. Emerging markets have already collapsed and we need to keep the malignancy from spreading to the US market. Hopefully to the EU instead.
Jackson Nelson
lol
Dominic Lewis
you didn't answer my question. How are bonds an indicator of a company's health?
Levi Butler
It's 2018 why are there only 40 market hours a week
Chase Nelson
GBR $10 this week right?
Michael Harris
I'm really curious to see what happens on Monday.
Jayden Kelly
i honestly think it was the FED. notes and bills were bleeding all day, and panicky bond traders have been pumping long bonds relentlessly cuz they think were gonna go into a recession. also, just the simple fact that the yields were pretty unattractive with bonds trading as high as theyve been. makes sense some would sell some off to try and ladder back in w higher yields in a month or so
but it doesnt make sense china would do it. they know thats exactly what our central bankers have been doing. i cant see them doing it to "help us out" (since FED has been dumping 30yrs anyways since months ago to normalize curve). you might be right though in the sense that it wasnt an "attack" necessarily, but more a way to sell off some of their dollars and get back to pumping their own market.
read a fucking book nigger. im not here to spoonfeed you on how fixed income securities work/relate to a companies health.
Adrian Cruz
we'd hate for the millionaire traders' feet to get tired
Jaxon Martinez
This might be true, the cash went from the usd/bonds to eur, nzd, aus and yen.
Metals also look to be reversing soon as well. This will be an interesting week.
Dylan Turner
another thing thats got me spooked is, while stocks and bonds BOTH went down at the same time on friday, this would normally mean that the dollar would pop up a little, as people buy more dollars for the holiday week next week. but not only did that not happen, but USD continued to slide all day (and the day before, when we were pumping somewhat) against all major currency pairs. so where are all these dollars going?
i thik you might be dead on that it was the chinese, but perhaps it was less an attack, and more a way to raise capital for themselves (ie bracing for their own market crash)
Brayden Rodriguez
>This will be an interesting week. i definitely think so too senpai
explain why is it happening? and why so soon after all these junk bonds are dumping? i see absolutely nowhere on this chart where it had a week this bad and THEN dumped. and it hardly ever does anything other than just buzzsaw back up after its div drop.
its showing the exact same signs as HYG did last weekend. i smell serious credit risk
Julian Jones
all bonds are bear market This is just conforming to its TA, really nothing shocking about it
Grayson Martinez
Not at muh battle station, but was there a discount/nav spike?
Evan King
this isnt quite bonds though. this is high risk leveraged loans. if anything this should be the thing investors and bond traders would be flocking to. the yields should increase steadily throughout rate hikes. instead they look just like how junk bonds did, with no one looking to pick them up w such shit yields.
and where are all the yield chasers going? are they going for the new, almost 3% 10yrs? no. theyre going for the longterm treasuries
im sorry user, im not sure how to look that up on my battle station.
Aiden Baker
>its still only saturday >a whopping 36+ hours before I can trade muh stocks again
its still a bond and all these income tools will go down with rising rates Yield chasers are going to Coca Cola Stock unironically
Joseph Hall
If the fund manager got hit with a massive sell off, the price to nav could’ve gone into a discount. I looked at the fund on spdr & the discount/premiums were only there for q1. Is uncommon for open ended etfs (not so much for closed end funds), but CAN happen if there is an major institutional sell off. Most likely the funds assets are starting to shit.
Daniel Evans
im gonna keep an eye on it for the next few weeks regardless.
Evan Perry
Likewise... thanks for sharing. i’ve been watching shit credit for a while, but focus on consumer. Really like the stink of CACC, a subprime auto lender, for a massive turd fest in the near term & have been building a short.
Sebastian Mitchell
Log of, Bogdanoff!
Oliver Sanchez
>CACC, a subprime auto lender hmmm so whos giving these guys the money to give out these subprime loans? couldnt possibly be the large banks that all look ready to jump, could it? (rhetorical question obviously)
>broski oh shieet div-sama i didnt know you still posted here
Caleb James
>bunds dont mean nuffin
Leo Collins
WHEN DO WE SELL GBR BROS
Josiah Smith
Is it time to go all in on UPS unironically? They got fudded hard because "Amazon Speedy Van Delivery"
>took out all my student and auto loans at the bottom of fed interest rates >going to pay everything back with a net inflation-adjusted profit so this the power of quantitative easing
Adam Sullivan
what kind of student loan rates did you get, i refinanced mine down to 5.4% for 10 years
Logan Roberts
HMNY will get pumped up to a dollar before the reverse split.
Screencap this.
John Gomez
>"Amazon Speedy Van Delivery"
That translates to 'we bought some shitty local courier service and have them delivering your stuff now'. In my experience with it the service is considerably worse than average UPS. I now have amazon deliver to post office as it forces them to use regular USPS instead of the van thing.
Gabriel Garcia
about $50k in loans at 3.5% I requested the maximum amount every semester even though I didn't need it and invested that a few years ago
Blake Hughes
wtf when was this? my original rate was 6.8% in 2009
Luis Wright
around 2015-2016
Aiden Flores
who /GBR/ here?
Ryder Lewis
Not me.
I refinanced my money with sofi for a really good rate. I have 300k in student loans though.. Shit sux man.
Im hoping the company fails, the bubble pops and my loans dissapear somehow.
Chase Nelson
literally how
Elijah Clark
Your loans will just go somewhere else m8. I've been on and off school for 10 years. Had an old one from 2008 disappear in 2012, and suddenly pop out of thin air a few months later being financed by Deutsche Bank
Julian Robinson
>I have 300k in student loans though just keep changing your name and practice your various identitys signatures. a good one is to learn how to write w both hands. that way they cant track you off analyzing your writing.
Dont feel too bad for me, my AGI is 500k per year as a result
Ryan Foster
KEK just found out some fucking weirdo kid that i knew growing up got #metoo'd lol fuckin creeps gonna have to skip town
that seems more reasonable
>Dont feel too bad for me >500k per year gimme some and i promise i wont feel bad ever again
Jack Sanders
Wtf degree costs that much? >inb4 women’s studies
Blake Gutierrez
medicine and law degrees.
Carter Lewis
>suddenly pop out of thin air a few months later being financed by Deutsche Bank >Deutsche Bank, the pants on head retarded failing German bank that the federal reserve is trying to shove out of the US, bought student loans >Deutsche Bank is buying student loans >student loans confirmed for root cause of next recession What other banks are doing student loans? Can I see which ones have A LOT? I want to know what to watch out for, like Bear Stearns
Absolutely. I'm thinking that wicked bond sell off SHOULD mean stocks will pump, but stocks sold off too, but less so... people want to sit on cash rn
>300k I got half a full ride to a state college that charged like 25k/year, but my parents covered the rest. Didn't go to University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign though, which I was accepted to and charged like 70k/year... It had a much more solid program, but I probably still came out on top, but I'm still trying to be sure
>3.5% I somehow got 3.39% APR on my auto loan my dad always tells me that he makes larger than the minimum required payments on his loans, but I agree with what you said -- why not just invest it instead?
I think if the "bubble pops", the loans would just be sold off as assets to other banks or the bank would be acquired by another like Bear Stearns. Your loan is worth money as an asset to that bank, they can at the very least sell it off while or in order to avoid being liquidated.
There's at least a few dozen people, but less than 200 IIRC, in the US that now have literally over a million dollars in student loans. One of the guy's with a million bucks in student loans was a dentist or orthodontist that was reported on in WSJ
>KEK >just found out some fucking weirdo kid that i knew growing up got #metoo'd >lol fuckin creeps gonna have to skip town Please tell me more. This shit freaks me out.
Dylan Parker
Just wanted to check in, probably going back off the grid now lol
Liam Lewis
How much Jewish pussy gets thrown at you when you’re a doctor lawyer?
Caleb Lopez
Rich Jews don't fuck Jewesses, they go for the shiksas
this shits gonna crash and burn the moment china jumps also wtf is an interest-only loan? how the fuck does that work? seems even more retarded than what we had here in 08
Connor Ward
I have a degree in medicine. Totally not worth it. Healthcare is completely fucked right now, also avoid teaching hospitals right now lest a new intern accidentally kill you. The good news is that you're still more likely to die of a medical error than if you were walking down the south side of chicago.
Medicine is as much voodoo witchcraft as science. All this bullshit gene therapy crap will not be to the bedside until 30 years from now, not to mention most of the common diseases are the result of people just being stupid and or lazy, not to mention the abundance of empty caloric intake. We teach a bunch of bullshit bigpharma sponsored therapies to doctors. Human health has been extended more by modern advances in engineering (like clean waters, sewers etc) than by advances in healthcare by a wide margin.
Healthcare is also the biggest example of wagging the dog I have ever seen. Doctors are basically data entry personel that have to follow guidelines by insurance companies, including the government. Most of what they say to do is based on special interest funded research and what they think its worth paying for.
Matthew Harris
What the fuck
The exuberance got out of hand. Investors gorged on “interest-only loans” that required them to repay not even one cent of principal for up to five years. The frenzy for such loans peaked in June 2015, when they accounted for 46 percent of all new mortgages.
Now it’s time for those borrowers to start paying up: About A$360 billion ($266 billion) of those loans revert to interest and principal payments over the next three years, just as global borrowing costs are set increase.
Adam Anderson
Is there a ticker for this for me to short or buy puts on?
Dylan Martinez
>Im hoping the company fails, the bubble pops and my loans dissapear somehow.
kek
If the company fails, they will just sell your debt to someone else.
Wait until the Coalition government passes their big business tax legislation before you do anything. I'm not expecting a crash for two reasons, (but I do advise you to take up bearish positions against Australia). 1. the Chinese property buyers only made a maximum 10% of the total market, and don't expect them to all start selling just because of values dropping: quite simply equity in Australia is worth more than keeping their money in Yuans. What's more likely is a massive amount of defaults if the Chinese economy tanks, many of those Chinese purchases were backed by fraudulent asset declarations (xeroxs of a friend of a friend's Chinese collateral), and while that practice was stymied over a year ago which is the reason the housing market has been slowing down - assume that Chinese investors accounted for 10% of the market, fraudlent asset declarations would be what, like, a third? So I don't expect a sudden crash. 2. The royal commission into the banking sector has already flagellated Aussie equities markets, the pressure on the bubble has already been released to an extent. If there was going to be a crash, it would have already happened.
But, here's some ongoing risk factors: a. walking down a very swanky part of town last night I saw a lot of retail places for lease, not sure if this is just because it's EOFY b. Chinese stockpiling on minerals/resources will means less exports for Australia 6 months from now. c. obscenely low interest rates means RBA ('reserve bank of australia', the aussie fed) has nowhere to go if they need to increase money supply. Then again a strong USD always pushes down the AUD.
Christian Martinez
Canada has a smaller economy than California, who do they think they are fucking with?
Also I was going through the events comming this week and a lot of economic data is comming out. Its probably going to be disappointing.... Not sure what to invest in, maybe the goldbugs are right.
Kayden Ross
im long silver right now. its way out of its range and the dollars been pulling back. plus silver is traditionally more volatile anyways and has been outperforming gold lately
plus i like the options better. the greeks are a lot less brutal than the gold ones
