/NKN/ General Discussion Thread - June 30

Da Hongfei is an advisor and investor in Elastos though.

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Seems like their Foundation is made of people who are not even engineers... NKN has top tier engineer and research team. Currently 20-25 full-time employees and 15 developers/researchers.

Yep total scam... buying more right now

Cool. Will NKN also be able to provide hosting like AWS?

Who pays for these trades to pajeets? Developers? Or idiot OP thinks that his daily threads will make pump for coin?

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NKN is the third pillar

Sia/Filecoin will be used for decentralized storage in the future, NKN for the decentralized data flow (decentralized Internet, while staying on the Internet of course) on the Internet and Ethereum/NEO for smart contracts.

It sounds good, too good, that's a project which will never succeed it's vision. I invested a small stack of neo and will sell for NEO when this will moon . It will probably moons once but long term it's too ambitious to complete.

it's already working... this is not over ambitious like Skycoin or ELA, this is actually real.

they've been working on it since 2016 and they work with Diffie Hellman and his Cryptic Labs (Diffie is known for all computer scientists, he's an invetor of public cryptography - you know without him there would be no cryptocurrencies or secure connections like we use now).

Give me the link to the app which will let me browse Jow Forums anonym and I will drop 1000 neo in.

that will come in August (public testnet anyone will be able to join and try it)... for know it's private testnet (running nodes on Google Cloud, you can try simple chat app in use-cases they added recently). preview.nkn.org

watch the videos here, everything is explained

youtube.com/channel/UCDmG5mnIGjxS7nwQnYzKXsw/videos

and on their Medium u have also the text explanation

Gimme some use cases. Real cases.
Nobody needs a blockchain to borrow bandwidth for streaming a fucking video.
Gimme the real deal.

Real anonymity? What happens if people use it for child porn?
Messaging? It's allready possible, even with bch.
What value give this to the normal internet user?

All Chinese will no longer need to pay for VPNs... just use NKN

no one can control or inspect what's being routed through NKN and you get faster internet while using it thanks to smart routing

You can relay packages through nearby NKN users for a faster internet connection. The real use case is that ISPs and commercial businesses can sell bandwidth to people for NKN. Apparently they have 2 major ISPs that are very interested in this.

this will basically make VPN obsolete by making it expensive, unreliable and slow.

didn't research but this sounds sort of like substratum - any thoughts?

there will be no need to use TOR or VPN thanks to NKN, people dont even realize the magnitude of this thing. Also people will be able to pay NKN on their website for example with paypal or credit card.

Ok forgot about the speed/bandwidth thing, that won't be a problem in the future anyway.
Forget about big data like video's you want to stream or download, there are easier methods to do this.

Does it provide TOR like anonymity with more speed? That would be good but still the target group would be too small to profit from it.
Tell me why my uncle who has an iPad and an iPhone and doesn't do criminal stuff, living in a developed country with high bandwidth would need it. What advanced, would he have?

no ti doesnt, completely different... substratum is trying to create "a new internet" not accessible from the current internet... totally different thing and I dont see why any would want to use SUB in the future.

yes it does... TOR and VPN has cons... it's slow, vpns are expensive and unreliable, can log your data... tor has malicious nodes... none of this is possible on NKN, it fixes it.

NKN is basically the next coin used widely by criminals... because it fixes all the problems of TOR (onion) and VPN

So basically, NKN is a better VPN, right?
That's what I get from your answers

it's a tool that decentralizes the Internet that we use every day so that ISPs become just providers of the connectivity, it takes governments and ISPs the power to harm net neutrality, packet inspection. Also websites will be no longer able to spy on you by tracking you. And your internet will be faster.

Ok I really like it and might use it to buy weed but that doesn't mean it is profitable to invest in the token at all.
You would need a big, a really big userbase to profit from it. That will never happen. No normie ever uses a VPN or Tor of even know what it is. NKN s userbase will be alot smaller.

Its nice really, but not worth investing in it.

Thanks the discussion bro's

This will x50 by eoy

well, this will be used by big cable companies like AT&T or T-Mobile, because they will profit a lot from using it, they're already in talk with 2 biggest ISPs in the US, it doesnt rely solely on individuals. So your argument is false.

Screenshotted user. Look for it on Jow Forums next year. It’s going to be like that screencap or the guy who said ETH was a scam.

because what do big ISPs do with unused bandwidth? nothing, it's unused right now, they will earn a shitton of money.

Big cable companys will provide anonym access to the internet so people can buy drugs or share secret data and also profit on it.
Dude what are you smoking?

wanted to add... shitton of money and on the other side, strenghthening NKN and making a world better place, which is great marketing.

I guess what you've been trying to do all the time... and you miss the point, you were trolling all the time, please don't waste other people's time... I presented facts that they're in talk with 2 BIGGEST CABLE COMPANIES in the US (which are also ISPs as u might know)... and those are facts.

It will probably moon like I wrote here.
It's a short term investment. The idea is worth alot. But the product will never succeed.

no, this is very long term investment, not short term. You're talking bullshit into potential readers of this thread.

now go back and invest in your stinky linkies with scammy $32M ICO without whitepaper and KYC.

no normies use VPN...

basically whole China uses VPN... you deluded linker.

i meant this... sorry, bad link to the post

I'm serious, sitting in front of switcheo and discussing with you.
In talk means in talk, nothin more.
Just think about AT and T selling access to TOR. Think that is realistic in our world?
Do you think the government and intelligence agencies would just let them do this? Comon we live a complete surveillance world.

I'll screencap you and see next year this time.

Are you a brainlet? My entire office staff uses vpns at their homes and they are dumb as rocks. Normies are indeed using vpns

that's basically the reason why NKN will succeed... NKN doesnt need approval and cannot be stopped. it's like if u wanted to stop ethereum or btc

u used wrong link dude... i said that basically whole China uses VPN... to counter that yellow man's plain wrong "argument" and lie that no one uses VPN or tor

No, in a bull market it will moon like everything else and even more through it's highly speculative character.
Screencap and show me this in 3 years.
The idea is gold but I see no way of adopting it.
I also invested a bit like I told you cause in the end it will increase my NEO stack.

i dont see how you dont see people adopting this... it's way easier than using VPN or TOR and VPN is used by ~1 B people daily. 1 out of 4 people in the world use VPN To connect to the Internet to (for example) get through the Firewall of China or to watch Netflx

Can anyone tell me why this is better than Holo hosting? Or are they even competitors?

No one is trying to do what NKN does...

Holo / SUB / Skycoin / ELA

they are all different, not even competitors and mostly what they aim to do will never be used by normies or can't even be done properly - Skycoin

Friendly reminder

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Good that you mentioned it, i see a supporter here :-).

yes, that's the biggest selling point, Cellular Automata why this is such an amazing thing... that's why it's even called New Kind of Network, it's play of words on Stephen Wolfram's work New kind of Science.

>looks at nkn team
>looks at holo team
Uhhh

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abandon the HOLO ship, lol...

Holo is a bunch of hippies working on their communist vision in their backyard, nkn involves actual software engineers developing a product with ample funding and industry connections.

New Kind of Nigger Pajeet shill btfo once again

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Who are you? Blockstream-like brainwashed supporter who is against decentralization?

我見證了我的王朝的提升

你的榮譽禮物送給中國

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You niggers would probably buy any project with a team full of ching chongs.

Name calling is for 2nd graders, you can do better, I hope, you're only insulting yourself.

I'm just pitching back the same lazy ad hominem I got when I mentioned Holo.

Yes. Because there are more of us than there are white people, and we agree/unify/collaborate better than the west does for surge behavior.

Then let us teach you the ways of inclusion. Cellular automata starts this way: 你成為你我之前做

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this is not Holo's thread and there's a difference between making fun and insulting. You just got played.

Be kinder to newcomers by showing them how to become included. To play another steals wealth from speculative investors turned off by behavioral concerns.

I'll try, it's just hard with so many insulting people thinking they can do anything simply because they're on the Internet, but I understand it's the way to go.

Well yeah, everyone got aggressive and condescending the second I mentioned Holo. That's telling to me.

Yeah, I 'really' get that. No elders of internet so everyone has to grow up with it in their own time. Shitty part is that so many take the little nicks from the internet because, well, society really has dropped the ball on how it should interact with itself.

As long as Trump is President, then reality is FREE GAME.

I just see no reason in playing without helping others up/out because I've known lots of rich people who live in isolation. They forget how to have inclusive conversations with others and just throw their, "Because I'm rich," as an argument for increasingly poor behavior.

Then I will lift ALL brothers up that I find. I will not let my life be reduced to a story that fizzles because I could not convince others that the nameless conversation we have within is shared by someone like me.

Tripfag. Now I know this is just DBC 2.0. Get out know if you're in.

A teachable moment: Where is my tripcode, exactly?

Write me an email and post the last two words of the email here from your ID, if you want...
[email protected] - my spam email used for purposes like this.

e-mail address.

got it :), u should have an answer.

Your negativity attracts only negative.

Correct, however the lesson is meaningless to who you reply to if you do not give them a positive to rally around or feel included by.

Remember, this is for you to learn and use as you see fit. I gift nothing less to those that understand how much bounty I wish for my brothers.

Be kind, be communicative, and no killing until that respawn tech is perfected.

I can’t wait to create a node and make money with a Raspberry PI running Linux.

The team’s communication is improving here. This is better than what you guys tried before. Don’t ever do that again.

what team? It's just my initiative to spread the word about nkn

You probably didn't pick up the hints. You are part of the team now. The less you reject, the more gains accept you.

Okkk

How else do you think NKN threads keep happening? Decentralized cheerleading. Here's ya pompoms.

I made most of them on my own... that’s how it was happening... but daily thread is a better way. I made like 50 threads.

So this is all about sharing spare data? Isnt that what QLC and dent are doing?

No it’s not, read the inteoduction on nln website, watch the videos, dig into it. 3 am here, sleepy to spoon feed anyone

I'll pick the thread up so you can sleep.

It is about mathematically maximal network utilization. When ISP or a mobile phone carrier goes mesh network 5g it is NKN they will use to let their networks carry other tokenizations of services.

NKN is like if Tor actually rewarded its users and also performs the same function as the Connectify software (merge multiple bandwidth sources into one for a commutative speed increase)

Thanks man... gonna go to bed now. I’ll create July 1 threadlater in the afternoon UTC time.

Strength, brother memory. I will remember you when you wake. I count on it.

lmao i was reading that thread last night. We need flags on this board

Are you brain-damaged? I don’t even invest in nkn, but there’s absolutely nothing wrong.